Re: [Finale] Time signatures

2006-07-01 Thread Éric Dussault
Hi Kim, If you don't need either cut time or common time abbreviated symbols, I would choose the one I don't use and then go to document options -- > Time signatures and set the symbol to 3. I would then set the time signature so normal time sign is 3 whatever and time signature for displa

RE: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:40 AM 7/2/06 +1000, keith helgesen wrote: >Surely a list 'moderating committee' or some such body would fix this? It's well worth taking a trek over to Wikipedia and reviewing the process. There have been two major changes in the recent past. One is that all editors have to register (no more

RE: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 2 Jul 2006 at 7:40, keith helgesen wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David W. Fenton Sent: Sunday, 2 July 2006 7:19 AM To: > finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated [] > If *you* find an inaccuracy in a Wi

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2006 at 10:09, Carl Dershem wrote: > Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > > > Carl Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know people whose Wikipedia biographies have been repeatedly > > hacked and changed by asocials. > > > > Could you provide some names or samples? > > Harlan Ellison Looks

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2006 at 10:34, Carl Dershem wrote: > Robert Patterson wrote: > > > Carl Dershem wrote: > > > >> Harlan Ellison > > > > I just skimmed his article. Where should I direct my skepticism? > > What I read coincides well with my information from other sources > > (many of which predate Wikip

RE: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread keith helgesen
Sorry- David- you're saying FIX IT yourself- thereby asserting that the fixer is right and the others are wrong. In your opinion you are right- but that's quite usual. The classic example given of somebody consistently changing someone's birthday to the wrong date because they believe they are righ

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Jul 2006 at 8:43, Carl Dershem wrote: > Michael Cook wrote: > > > Don't forget that somebody writing an article for Britannica or any > > other commercial encyclopedia may also have an axe to grind. My > > impression is the articles in Wikipedia are about as accurate, and > > often more c

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2006 at 21:26, Carl Dershem wrote: > Wikipedia is useful for some things, and completely useless for > others. > In areas where there is very little reason to monkey with what's > posted (often technical articles) it's not bad. But whenever it comes > to biography, history, and the l

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Jun 2006 at 23:20, John Howell wrote: > No, the Wikipedia article is wrong. This does not surprise me, since > a website that is essentially a communal blog is pretty unreliable as > a reference! Not true at all. A study was done comparing the accuracy of Wikipedia articles to those of pu

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:05 PM 7/1/06 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: >Speaking of Wikipedia, it has been my intent for some time to >improve/lengthen the existing articles on Anthony Philip Heinrich and >Lejaren Hiller. I'd like to do the work off-line, then just post it to >the relevant Wikipedia page. There are in

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
Speaking of Wikipedia, it has been my intent for some time to improve/lengthen the existing articles on Anthony Philip Heinrich and Lejaren Hiller. I'd like to do the work off-line, then just post it to the relevant Wikipedia page. There are instructions at the Wikipedia site on how to edit an

Re: [Finale] Notation; was RE: Tremolos

2006-07-01 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: Anyway, my central point still stands: printers--or at least this one, major, printer--had the ability and willingness to produce ligatures when called upon to do so. No, the point doesn't stand, you haven't demonstrated that specific bloc

Re: [Finale] Time signatures

2006-07-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I am working on an overture that has multiple movements. Some of the dance movements have time signatures of a single "3." While I can change the document option for time signatures to reflect what the manuscript shows, (I do that by putting a large distance for the lower

[Finale] Time signatures

2006-07-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I am working on an overture that has multiple movements. Some of the dance movements have time signatures of a single "3." While I can change the document option for time signatures to reflect what the manuscript shows, (I do that by putting a large distance for the lower number and force it off th

Re: [Finale] OT tempo changes within rubato - vote now, vote often!

2006-07-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 1, 2006, at 2:14 PM, Don Hart wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else sense a connotation with Tempo I that it starts a substantial section of music, and is not as appropriate when used more commonly, like from phrase to phrase? It's just you. 8-) Seriously, though, there is no

Re: [Finale] OT tempo changes within rubato - vote now, vote often!

2006-07-01 Thread Don Hart
Nothing. I wasn't sure where meno m. and piu m. stood when drawing a line between using English or Italian, and was inquiring to find a good alternative, if there is one. In early returns Tempo I is the clear leader. Is it just me, or does anyone else sense a connotation with Tempo I that it sta

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Carl Dershem wrote: I've known Harlan for almost 40 years, and he is anything but pleased with the article. Not surprising. He is anything but easy to please from everything I've ever heard about him. I also have this impression from reading between the lines of his own commentary in, e

Re: [Finale] String Harmonics Playback With Full GPO

2006-07-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 01 Jul 2006, at 11:58 AM, Leigh Daniels wrote: I'm working on a piece that needs violin and cello harmonics and I'd like to be able to hear at least an approximation of them via Finale playback using the Full GPO. It looks like Finale 2006/GPO cannot play them. List archive posts from last ye

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Robert Patterson wrote: Carl Dershem wrote: Harlan Ellison I just skimmed his article. Where should I direct my skepticism? What I read coincides well with my information from other sources (many of which predate Wikipedia by decades). Furthermore, the opinion and fact in the article seem

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 7/1/06, Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and yet the article on evolution there now is quite lucid and useful.   For now it is... The entry has been changed 2,081 times in a few years.   The magazine feature that I mentioned in an earlier post is viewable here:   http://www.discover.c

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Carl Dershem wrote: Harlan Ellison I just skimmed his article. Where should I direct my skepticism? What I read coincides well with my information from other sources (many of which predate Wikipedia by decades). Furthermore, the opinion and fact in the article seem to be clearly delineated

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: due to a pissing-contest between a creationist and a pro-evolutionist. And yet the article on evolution there now is quite lucid and useful. The only problem is how you get there. The Evolution article is currently link-jacked to the Pseudoscience article, but righ

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Carl Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know people whose Wikipedia biographies have been repeatedly hacked and changed by asocials. Could you provide some names or samples? Harlan Ellison and Ben Bova, for two examples. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershe

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:34 PM 7/1/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: > Carl Dershem<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I know people whose Wikipedia >>biographies have been repeatedly hacked and changed by asocials. >Could >you provide some names or samples? Here's a start: http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Censor

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
There is a very interesting article in this month's Discover (science magazine based in the United States) tracking the evolution (pardon that pun) of the Wikipedia entry on Evolution. The Discover article tracks the progression of the entry with its various versions,  due to a pissing-contest betw

Re: [Finale] OT tempo changes within rubato - vote now, vote often!

2006-07-01 Thread John Howell
At 1:11 AM -0500 7/1/06, Don Hart wrote: I'd like to get your vote on the following: what is the best way to indicate a specific variance in tempo *within* a section of music already marked rubato? Just read the example below and pick the best answer. Say, for example, that a piece starts with

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
 Carl Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I know people whose Wikipedia biographies have been repeatedly hacked and changed by asocials.   Could you provide some names or samples?ThanksKim Patrick Clow"There's really only two types of music: good and bad." ~ Rossini ___

[Finale] String Harmonics Playback With Full GPO

2006-07-01 Thread Leigh Daniels
Hello Group, I'm working on a piece that needs violin and cello harmonics and I'd like to be able to hear at least an approximation of them via Finale playback using the Full GPO. It looks like Finale 2006/GPO cannot play them. List archive posts from last year mention that functionality comin in

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Carl Dershem
Michael Cook wrote: Don't forget that somebody writing an article for Britannica or any other commercial encyclopedia may also have an axe to grind. My impression is the articles in Wikipedia are about as accurate, and often more complete, than those in the encyclopedias in the public lib

Re: [Finale] OT tempo changes within rubato - vote now, vote often!

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Cook
I'd go for "Tempo I". And I wouldn't recommend using English alternatives to standard terms like "meno mosso". If you write "meno mosso", it should be understood by anyone anywhere in the world who has learnt to read music, whereas if you translate it into English the non-English speakers

Re: [Finale] OT tempo changes within rubato - vote now, vote often!

2006-07-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 1, 2006, at 2:11 AM, Don Hart wrote: I'd like to get your vote on the following: what is the best way to indicate a specific variance in tempo *within* a section of music already marked rubato? Just read the example below and pick the best answer. Say, for example, that a piece sta

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Phil Daley
At 11:20 PM 6/30/2006, John Howell wrote: >No, the Wikipedia article is wrong. This does not surprise me, since >a website that is essentially a communal blog is pretty unreliable as >a reference! I agree with Robert. Wikipedia articles are generally good. I have seen both whole rests and who

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.07.2006 John Howell wrote: In theory they can also represent full measure rests in meters with more than 4 quarter notes, but careful engraving will usually give the actual number of beats of rest. The last part of this sentence is incorrect. Or rather: _Correct_ engraving is to use a w

Re: [Finale] Comments appreciated

2006-07-01 Thread Michael Cook
Don't forget that somebody writing an article for Britannica or any other commercial encyclopedia may also have an axe to grind. My impression is the articles in Wikipedia are about as accurate, and often more complete, than those in the encyclopedias in the public library. In this partic