Re: [Finale] Fwd: Reflections on Finale 2008

Randolph Peters wrote: Wow jeff! You put on your finest capitals and everything. Yes, I am impressed, too. I always thought the shift key on jef's keyboard was non-functioning. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing

[Finale] Musings (more Finale-Sibelius, on a different track)

For reasons not related to this list, I've looked at the Wikipedia entries for Finale and Sibelius. The Finale one is clearly written by enthusiasts and more importantly end users, who (a) know it's used by a lot of people who know what they're doing, and (b) have very clear expectations. The Sib

Re: [Finale] Fwd: Reflections on Finale 2008

shirling & neueweise wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:34:00 +0200 To: John Paulson Chief Executive Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron Raup President <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Dunn Chief Technology Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karen VanDerBosch Chief Financial Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mary S

[Finale] Fwd: Reflections on Finale 2008

Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:34:00 +0200 To: John Paulson Chief Executive Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron Raup President <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Dunn Chief Technology Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karen VanDerBosch Chief Financial Officer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mary Schneider Chief Marketing O

RE: [Finale] Right Angled Text, Was: Sibelius

> This is really kludgy, but I think there are 2 ways to turn fonts 90 > degrees. Neither are all that much fun. > > 1. Put the text into a Smart Shape Custom Line (or lines) without any > line and then drag the thing vertically. > I don't know whether it was you who suggested this one to me

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

How do you turn the darn fonts 90 degrees in shape designer? Or do you have some other trick for using notes as arrowheads? exactly, define the arrow to be the whole or quarter note... hm, that's true that you can't make them 90 to the line, so you'd have to define 0-width lines for the note

[Finale] Right Angled Text, Was: Sibelius

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 03:28 PM 7/19/2007 +0200, you wrote: massive amounts of custom lines with noteheads as arrows How do you turn the darn fonts 90 degrees in shape designer? Or do you have some other trick for using notes as arrowheads? Like a custom font? This is really kludgy,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

At 08:19 PM 7/19/2007 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 7/19/07 7:01:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> At 03:28 PM 7/19/2007 +0200, you wrote: >> >massive amounts of custom lines with noteheads as arrows >> >> How do you turn the darn fonts 90 degrees in shape designer? Or do y

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

In a message dated 7/19/07 7:01:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 03:28 PM 7/19/2007 +0200, you wrote: > >massive amounts of custom lines with noteheads as arrows > > How do you turn the darn fonts 90 degrees in shape designer? Or do you have > some other trick for using notes as arrowheads

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

At 03:28 PM 7/19/2007 +0200, you wrote: >massive amounts of custom lines with noteheads as arrows How do you turn the darn fonts 90 degrees in shape designer? Or do you have some other trick for using notes as arrowheads? Like a custom font? D ___ F

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

yessir, right away, sir. ENOUGH already! If you people want to bicker, do it off list. "we people" might think otherwise than you. This thread was interesting, but it has degenerated into a playground shouting contest. um, really, you haven't seen many **real** email flame wars, have yo

[Finale] Fin 2008 issues

I've been work in Fin Mac 2008 for a few days and I've run into some problems. 1. When using the full version of GPO I can't get pizz. and arco to trigger correctly in a double bass part after entering those expressions in my score. I've tried putting notes F-2 and C-2 in layer 4 and th

RE: [Finale] combining files into a song collection

I did it in 2007 where ScoreMerger didn't exist. --Allen | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randolph Peters | Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:29 AM | To: finale@shsu.edu | Subject: RE: [Finale] combining files into a song collectio

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

ENOUGH already! If you people want to bicker, do it off list. This thread was interesting, but it has degenerated into a playground shouting contest. You should all be ashamed. DO you think anyone from Coda can take this list seriously if they see how we spend our time??? The point is

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

If any of you can do June's "Lunar Cascade" in a GUI-based engraving (not graphics) program, I'll hand over the 50 bucks that I got for this commission: i could do it, but keep the money, i would probably kill myself in the process. massive amounts of custom lines with noteheads as arrows an

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

On 19 Jul 2007 at 15:23, shirling & neueweise wrote: > > >>this may have changed since the relation went sour, but stocki's > >>copyist, james ingram from 1974-2000 used finale for note entry and > >>freehand and some homebaked programmes to make the finale results > >>pretty. ... > > > >Finale w

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

Oh, come on -- you sound as if all hand-engraved music was of a equally super-high quality that computer notation programs can't touch, and nothing could be further from the truth. actually i said just the opposite in my email. There is a lot of hand-engraved music which is ugly as sin, with

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

this may have changed since the relation went sour, but stocki's copyist, james ingram from 1974-2000 used finale for note entry and freehand and some homebaked programmes to make the finale results pretty. ... Finale was available in 1974? ok so it wasn't explicit in my message, but shoul

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

David W. Fenton / 2007/07/18 / 03:15 PM wrote: >I've done some piano cadenzas where I did them with one long measure, Reminds me back when 3.2 (or was it 2.6?) when Finale still had the number of notes per measure limitation. It was a nightmare. Oh wait. We are talking about note spacing. Ba

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

At 06:40 AM 7/19/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote: >I'm sorry people are taking this so seriously as an example that >Sibelius just isn't as capable as Finale because the person who made the >Sibelius "it can be done" example couldn't afford to lose a half-day's >work in the process. Especially compa

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

On 19 Jul 2007 at 6:32, dhbailey wrote: > There is a lot of hand-engraved music which is ugly as sin, with poor > spacing and lousy sizes for the different elements and bad page turns > and all the other things that computer notation programs are accused > of producing. I think the pinnacle of en

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

Raymond Horton wrote: Kim Patrick Clow wrote: On 7/18/07, Raymond Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm with David. If the Sibelius guy is trying to show that Sibelius can do it as well, then he should have done the whole page, and made it look as good. But he didn't. Not really close. It'

[Finale] OT: MacUpdate bundle

In case any OS X users are interested, MacUpdate has a great software bundle available for the next 18 hours or so. There are some interesting pieces of software in the bundle, including Amadeus Pro which is an excellent audio editor, ProfCast for doing pod

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

shirling & neueweise wrote: [snip]> you thought wrong, if you are talking about anything other than score, whose mandate from the start -- whether they have achieved it or not is another question -- was to replicate traditional engraving values. [snip] Oh, come on -- you sound as if all ha

Re: [Finale] Sibelius

shirling & neueweise wrote: remainder largely in graphical programs (where I believe many of the Stockhausen scores where done). this may have changed since the relation went sour, but stocki's copyist, james ingram from 1974-2000 used finale for note entry and freehand and some homebaked p