[Finale] the possibility of spam via Finale list

Ihave gotten several spam messages referencing Finale and pretending to be from Robert Patterson. As a result, I stopped including my signature and full name on any messages I post to the list. (Cleaning up a worm once was a very frustrating, time-consuming experience.) Marilyn --

Re: [Finale] From your friendly list owner

Thanks for being a voice of reason with authority backing it up. The grandest tradition of Finale is users helping users. The next- grandest, perhaps, is these same musician-users getting into spirited discussions having nothing to do with Finale but everything to do with the wonderful world

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

On Aug 8, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I have always thought the Golden Rule to be an excellent concept ... problem is, everyone has to participate for it to achieve efficacy. Nah, it's not that great, since it assume

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

I do not claim to be a thouroughgoing historian, but the following that i just pulled up squares with what every teacher who ever mentioned Franklin had said: Benjamin Franklin's enlightenment deism: Benjamin Franklin early-on adapted a creed that would last the rest of his life: a virtuous, moral

Re: [Finale] Text block alignment

Clay Zambo wrote: Most of my work these days is in creating the piano-vocal scores for musicals, which frequently contain blocks of text that's spoken over music. I create these as measure-assigned text blocks. What I'm wondering is if there's an easy way to choose two or more of these block

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

On Aug 8, 2007, at 6:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...I'd always heard that B Franklin was a deist rather than an atheist. From what I know of him (and I've read the standard biograpy) he just wasn't interested in anything that did not have a practical application. Which would make

Re: [Finale] Finale Workshop

Ah, yes. Well, the two Toms were VERY strong on keyboard shortcuts. They said excessive clicking of mouses is just a shortcut to carpal tunnel syndrome. Horace On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:00:36 -0400, you wrote: > >On Aug 7, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Horace Brock wrote: > >> >> Well, they DID strongly recomm

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Well, you have a point there, let me ruminate. Dean On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I have always thought the Golden Rule to be an excellent concept ... problem is, everyone has to participate for it to achieve eff

[Finale] memory

Hi All, I have Finale 2007 and Sibelius 5 on my Mac G5. I can't believe I have only 512 megs of ram. My compositions are on the long side. How much memory would you recomend? Thanks, BF ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Brennon- I do admit to many postings-- however I felt them necessary, mostly too stand up for someone, and also myself. It has been tiring for me also, and the temptation to sink to others level, has been resisted.. But hopefully ragging on people has stopped now-- But thanks for you input.

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Bob, Your emails are among the most tiresome things I've endured recently. This list has been so helpful for me over the past 8 years, mainly as a lurker, but even deleting your emails lately has become so tedious that I'm wondering if it's not better to drop off the list altogether. Please,

Re: [Finale] Archives

On 8 Aug 2007 at 15:09, Aaron Sherber wrote: > At 02:39 PM 8/8/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: > >On 8 Aug 2007 at 18:48, dc wrote: > > > >> Well, if the addresses are only one click away, I don't think it > >> should be very difficult for anyone to get them the day they > decide to >> do so. An

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

I see you couldn't find anything on these settings either-- thanks for sharing. Peace, Bob Morabito On Wednesday, August 8, 2007, at 01:41 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You could, since it seems you have nothing better to do, browse the archives Bob Morabito wrote: Didn't think so--I re

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

Personally, I've always heard "Turkey in the Straw" in the New World first movement! BC - Original Message - From: "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime When I was young, I was certain tha

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Thanks-glad you enjoyed the insight. The Ford Model T (colloquially known as the Tin Lizzie and the Flivver) was an automobile produced by Henry Ford's Ford Motor Company from 1908 through 1927. The model T set 1908 as the historic year that the automobile came into popular usage http://tiny

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

More names, Dannewitz? thats really NOT cool. AND Thats quite enough,.. .. Email me privately should you wish to continue this--spare the list this. Peace, Bob Morabito On Wednesday, August 8, 2007, at 01:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Look, I'm not taking any time to help an ass like you out a

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

When I was young, I was certain that the ending of the "New World" symphony was boogie-woogie. Anachronistic of course, but it is now generally accepted that D. really did make use of music he heard from the Fiske Jubilee Singers, at least as a model. As to conjectures abt. how ragtime

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, and Mozart mostly went to church so he could play the organ You're right RE Berlioz, at least, but the problem with figuring out who might have been an atheist or not is that it was downright dangerous to take such a stance before

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

Hmm...I'd always heard that B Franklin was a deist rather than an atheist. Many composers have reached outside of their religious tradition in their work (e.g., my Episcopalian evensong liturgy), so it often is hard to tell. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk __

Re: [Finale] Archives

At 02:39 PM 8/8/2007, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 8 Aug 2007 at 18:48, dc wrote: > >> Well, if the addresses are only one click away, I don't think it >> should be very difficult for anyone to get them the day they decide to >> do so. And just because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it won't >

Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy

On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: . Operator error! Or as my brother says, "A problem with the interface between the chair and the keyboard." 8-) Glad you got it sorted out. I would hate to think there is yet ANOTHER bug... Christopher ___

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I have always thought the Golden Rule to be an excellent concept ... problem is, everyone has to participate for it to achieve efficacy. Nah, it's not that great, since it assumes everyone wants the same thing. Better is to behave towa

Re: [Finale] macro program for OSX

Lawrence David Eden / 2007/08/08 / 04:10 PM wrote: >Having said that, does the fact that I am using an old Beige G3 (with >processor upgrade to 500mgz G4) still rule out any benefits from >using a RAM disk? It's all about how much RAM you have. I already mentioned you probably need more than 4

Re: [Finale] macro program for OSX

OK! I turned the RAM Disk off... My colleagues here on the List have given this OS9 user some excellent pointers with regard to my recent use of OSX. Having said that, does the fact that I am using an old Beige G3 (with processor upgrade to 500mgz G4) still rule out any benefits from us

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

You could, since it seems you have nothing better to do, browse the archives Bob Morabito wrote: Didn't think so--I really would have appreciated seeing them too. Thanks anyways. Peace, Bob Morabito On Tuesday, August 7, 2007, at 09:10 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 8 Aug 2007 at 0:15

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Look, I'm not taking any time to help an ass like you out at all. Period. SmartMusic is very important. As are the lyric problems for other people. It's part of the program, Finale. I really think the list has gone to hell since you've been opining in on this and that. Now go and do your niff

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Another great insight there Bob. Going to give us some reflections on when the Model T came out as well? Bob Morabito wrote: Rodney King, the man whose vicious beating by members of the Los Angeles police department was caught on video.. On May 1, 1992, the third day of the Los Angeles riots,

RE: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

There is a little swing figure in Brahms 2nd Piano Concerto. In the clarinets. I remember the giggles from their section when it was first discovered in rehearsal. That pre-dates the swing band by, what, 50 years? Richard Smith www.rgsmithmusic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

It's definitely a bug, since it's an unintended change from the behavior of all previous versions. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 08 Aug 2007, at 3:09 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I see. You are right. But I suppose MM sees it as a "Feature, not a Bug?" _

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

I see. You are right. But I suppose MM sees it as a "Feature, not a Bug?" But parts should _almost_ never be concert pitch. My situation is I've been doing several works for British-style brass band in which every instrument except the bass trombone and percussion are treble clef transpos

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

Richard Smith wrote: I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discussion in a different light. Richa

Re: [Finale] Archives

On 8 Aug 2007 at 19:51, dc wrote: > Aaron Sherber écrit: > >The bottom of each page does have a button to reply to the author via > > email, but the address is broken up into user and host fields as > >part of the . And at least when I tried it just now, it didn't > >work, anyway. > > When I clic

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

Yes, Dvorak's rhythm has a verve and bounce (the scherzo/dumka of the 7th symphony comes to mind) that is very distinct from Brahms. Lively yes, but not ragtime. Now that you mention it the 2nd theme of the New World may be a "Peacherine"-type tune with its emphatic downbeats, even if the presentat

Re: [Finale] Archives

On 8 Aug 2007 at 18:48, dc wrote: > David W. Fenton écrit: > >I can't see that your email address is visible anywhere in the HTML > >or in any way at all. You have to click a submit button, and while > >automated email harvesters can do that, I don't know if they can > >capture the result of that.

Re: [Finale] Archives

Thanks..:) On Wednesday, August 8, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: That is a good link. It is comforting to know the the _entire_ "F--- You" and "Flapjacks" threads are preserved for posterity. RBH Bob Morabito wrote: Hi Aaron-- I thought they are?? --I've found this helpful--

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

If you extract from a Concert Pitch score in Fin2k7-Fin2k8, you get Concert Pitch parts. (This is very, very bad.) that's silly. something to check would be if a similar file in which the linked parts have not yet been generated works the same way. not going to solve your problem, but it i

[Finale] FWIW--Online Live Demos of Sib 5 start tomorrow

FWIW...just passing this on.. thanks Bob Morabito Three chances to see Sibelius 5 without leaving home. <> Three chances to see a live demo of the all-new version of Sibelius from the comfort of your own home! NEW DATES ADDED On August 9th, 23rd and 30th at 7pm, we will be holding a liv

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

Hi Raymond, I have turned off the warning because it's extremely annoying when you are intentionally working with a Concert Pitch score. If you extract from a Concert Pitch score in Fin2k6, you get transposed parts. (As you should.) If you extract from a Concert Pitch score in Fin2k7-Fin2

[Finale] From your friendly list owner

My Friends, I believe I do not have to remind you that email communication requires a level of decorum that would make a 16th-century Japanese court seem bedlam in comparison. The idea of the list is that it is open, helpful, and polite. Good manners (more often) demand that one ignores bad manne

Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime

Aaron Rabushka wrote: Aaron J. Rabushka who still doesn't like the Brahms violin concerto and wonders what would've happened had ragtime fallen into the hands of Tchaikovsky (bigoted as he was) or Dvorák That's what came to my mind, when I read that possible quote of Brahms concernin

Re: [Finale] Archives

That is a good link. It is comforting to know the the _entire_ "F--- You" and "Flapjacks" threads are preserved for posterity. RBH Bob Morabito wrote: Hi Aaron-- I thought they are?? --I've found this helpful-- http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/ Thanks Peace, Bpb Morabito On

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

I have always thought the Golden Rule to be an excellent concept ... problem is, everyone has to participate for it to achieve efficacy. Dean On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Rodney King, the man whose vicious beating by members of the Los Angeles police department was caugh

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

That's odd. My only experience with concert pitch extracted parts is with WinFin2006 in a special situation in which I want to print a couple of parts from one file in concert pitch. I get a friendly warning each time I print those parts. Same just now when I tried printing them with Fin2007

Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy

Christopher - I just got off the phone with Tech Support. I had inadvertantly clicked off some things in Items to Copy in the Mass Mover menu. All is well again. Operator error! BC - Original Message - From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08,

[Finale] (WAS a Flap about Jacks) New World Rag...

Aaron J. Rabushka: wonders what would've happened had ragtime fallen into the hands of Tchaikovsky (bigoted as he was) or Dvorak... And Les chimes in: Oh, I dunno - I've always felt Dvorak did toss a little rag into the New World Symphony -- that secondary tune in the exposition of the fir

Re: [Finale]Fenton

The keyword search would certainly help, I think ... but it still might be operose (but probably better than bothering a whole bunch of folks a lot). Dean On Aug 8, 2007, at 3:42 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: True ... one can not expect any newbie to have read all of

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

Ah, thanks. Dean On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Rodney King, the man whose vicious beating by members of the Los Angeles police department was caught on video.. On May 1, 1992, the third day of the Los Angeles riots, King appeared in public before television news cameras

Re: [Finale] Archives

On 8 Aug 2007 at 14:30, dc wrote: > Bob Morabito écrit: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/ > > These are not the official archives of the list, which are here (and > are more often than not on the blink). > > List-Archive: > > The grea

Re: [Finale] Archives

Hi Aaron-- As regards the completeness, you were right--here's the reply I got Thanks Bob Morabito Bob Morabito écrit: my question is how COMPLETE is that search of the official archive?? It does list posts also- http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/ Thanks --a question came up on

Re: [Finale] Archives

On Wed, August 8, 2007 8:30 am, dc wrote: > The great advantage of the site you mention is that it is searchable. It > also offers to anyone valid email addresses, if that's what they're after. The site does not offer our email addresses, at least not in their normal form. The individual postings

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

On Aug 8, 2007, at 11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, I used to be an agnostic, but now I'm not sure... 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listin

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

Well, I understand that Berlioz was an agnostic, and Mozart mostly went to church so he could play the organ Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk > > On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Richard Smith wrote: > >> I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a vis

Re: [Finale] Text block alignment

Clay: You could use a grid (w/ "snap to" on) or a hand-positioned guide marking (w/ "snap to" on). -Carolyn On 8/8/07, Clay Zambo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of my work these days is in creating the piano-vocal scores for > musicals, which frequently contain blocks of text that's spoken o

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

On Aug 8, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: If I take all the religious references and substitute "inner strength", "concentration", "reflection" and "knowledge" then I find that Brahms and I are in very close agreement about how things go when one is "in the zone" (to use a hoc

[Finale] Text block alignment

Most of my work these days is in creating the piano-vocal scores for musicals, which frequently contain blocks of text that's spoken over music. I create these as measure-assigned text blocks. What I'm wondering is if there's an easy way to choose two or more of these blocks and align them

[Finale] Re: Playback issue

From: Will Denayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 16:47:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Finale] Playback issue . . . There is another problem. When I use playback, the tempo sometimes freeses: I can go for 1 quarter note = 80 or 1 quarter note is 20, it does not make a

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Richard Smith wrote: I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discuss

Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy

On Aug 8, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:13 AM 8/8/2007, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: >I've been working all day on a score (WinFin06c) and in the last hour >I can't seem to copy measures as before. Nothing. I've checked >Layers, turned off and on the computer, etc. One thing: I di

Re: [Finale] Fin2k7 - Display in Concert Pitch checked in extracted parts

On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:07 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I just did a part extraction from a Concert Pitch score in Fin2k7. I did most of the layout work with linked parts, and then extracted out for fine-tuning. I noticed that all of the extracted parts had "Display in Concert Pitch" checked.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 new feature - merging files

On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: I had tried to merge a couple of single part files that had been already been extracted from larger scores and the merge function balked (actually it said "special part extraction is turned on on one of the files." - I don't recall seeing

Re: [Finale] Brahms and inspiration

I have seen it written that Dvorak returned from a visit with Brahms quite upset because Brahms was "such a great man and he believes in nothing, absolutely nothing." I don't know how reliable that is but it certainly puts the Brahms discussion in a different light. Richard Smith www.rgsmithmu

Re: [Finale]Fenton

At 11:15 AM 8/8/2007, Bob Morabito wrote: >--I've found this helpful-- > >http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/ That's one of the mail archiving services I talked about. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is listed as a subscriber to this list, so every post gets sent there and archived. But it's not of

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

On a list like this people should be able to exchange information about Finale without personality politics (esp when it descends to a grade school level) cutting in. Aaron J. Rabushka who still doesn't like the Brahms violin concerto and wonders what would've happened had ragtime fallen into the

Re: [Finale]Fenton

At 8/8/2007 07:38 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: >At 06:42 AM 8/8/2007, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > >But can one not expect a newbie to subscribe and do a search of the > >archives using relevant keywords, or is this yet another way in which I > >do not conform to the normal expectations? > >The archives

Re: [Finale]Fenton

Hi Aaron-- I thought they are?? --I've found this helpful-- http://www.mail-archive.com/finale@shsu.edu/ Thanks Peace, Bpb Morabito On Wednesday, August 8, 2007, at 04:38 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:42 AM 8/8/2007, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >But can one not expect a newbie to subscribe and

Re: [Finale]Fenton

At 06:42 AM 8/8/2007, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >But can one not expect a newbie to subscribe and do a search of the >archives using relevant keywords, or is this yet another way in which I >do not conform to the normal expectations? The archives of this list are not directly searchable. If you go

Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy

At 12:13 AM 8/8/2007, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: >I've been working all day on a score (WinFin06c) and in the last hour >I can't seem to copy measures as before. Nothing. I've checked >Layers, turned off and on the computer, etc. One thing: I did >download the Fin08 demo this afternoon and tried

Re: [Finale]Fenton

Dean M. Estabrook wrote: True ... one can not expect any newbie to have read all of the discussions which have taken place over several years. But can one not expect a newbie to subscribe and do a search of the archives using relevant keywords, or is this yet another way in which I do not confo

[Finale] Mass Mover/Copy

I've been working all day on a score (WinFin06c) and in the last hour I can't seem to copy measures as before. Nothing. I've checked Layers, turned off and on the computer, etc. One thing: I did download the Fin08 demo this afternoon and tried it for a while. Would this have anything to do

Re: [Finale] macro program for OSX

At 8/7/2007 05:24 PM, John Howell wrote: >At 8:15 AM -0400 8/7/07, Phil Daley wrote: >>I think that a travel drive is the way to go. >> >>They are faster than a HD and they are more stable than RAM. > >Phil, is that the little doohickey I've heard called a flash drive or >a thumb drive--a Gig on

Re: [Finale] Flapjacks you BET! love 'em!

At 01:27 -0700 8/8/07, Bob Morabito wrote: EVERYONE should be able to ask questions without being picked on. hm, nope, sorry, i just don't see the power struggle inherent to that phrase at all. oh wait a minute, there it is: who decides what is "being picked on" and whether it is appropriate