Re: [Finale] Strange spacing problem

2007-10-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.10.2007 ThomaStudios wrote: The last time I encountered no beat chart it was due to having a plugin window open, namely Robert's. When I closed the plugin window, the beat chart was visible. Could this be your situation? I don't think so. There isn't even a bottom handle in the measur

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Michael Greensill
I just ordered Sibelius from "audiomidi.com" and wasn't asked for any proof of Finale ownership! At that price it's a no-brainer. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/fin

Re: [Finale] Sibelius for Finale users

2007-10-13 Thread Richard Smith
Sibelius 5 comes with about 3GB of samples called Sibelius Sounds Essentials. It includes GPO, Garriton JABB, Concert and Maching Band, Virtual Drumline, and World Music. It also has VST/AU support so you can also use other sample libraries. Richard Smith http://www.rgsmithmusic.com Dean M.

[Finale] Finale <--> Sibelius

2007-10-13 Thread Randolph Peters
I just paid a visit to the Yahoo/Sibelius list for the first time and I discovered that lo and behold, many of this list's contributors are also writing over there. It felt like I had discovered some clandestine dirty little secret. My impression is that the discussion is a little more upbeat

Re: [Finale] Sibelius for Finale users

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Well, if this post gets out there, since I had no responses to my query inre what sorts of playback sounds were available in Sib 5, and after finally having found some of the info on the Sibelius product description, I went ahead the coughed up the $80 and ordered one. I'd still like to kno

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Damn, Chuck ... that's going to make playing the bass a bit of an adventure. Sorry, Dean On Oct 13, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: I'm here - just returned from a nice European tour, but typing with only my left hand as a result of a broken right wrist from a fall on Monday. Not

[Finale] Sibelius for Finale users

2007-10-13 Thread Richard Smith
I am a long time Finale user (since v.2) currently using 2005. I am also experienced with Sibelius (since v.1) which is my preferred program. Since so many on this list are investigating Sibelius, may I draw your attention to this thread on the Sibelius list http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/s

Re: [Finale] Strange spacing problem

2007-10-13 Thread ThomaStudios
Johannes, The last time I encountered no beat chart it was due to having a plugin window open, namely Robert's. When I closed the plugin window, the beat chart was visible. Could this be your situation? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Oct 13, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I have

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Bruce Clausen
It's happened to me several times, too. BC - Original Message - From: "A-NO-NE Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] My posts Dean M. Estabrook / 07.10.13 / 1:29 PM wrote: My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to th

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Dean M. Estabrook / 07.10.13 / 1:29 PM wrote: >My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list >anymore ... is anyone out there? This happens to me time to time, and this list is the only one does this. I just had such yesterday. If I feel resending it after a day or so, I resend i

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Chuck Israels
I'm here - just returned from a nice European tour, but typing with only my left hand as a result of a broken right wrist from a fall on Monday. Not looking for sympathy - just suggesting careful walking in slippery places. Chuck On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Dean M

[Finale] Strange spacing problem

2007-10-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I have a file where one particular measure spaces perfectly in the score, but in the part gets all squashed together. Strangely, in page view the measure tool doesn't show a lower (beat-chart) handle, whereas in scroll view it is there (and the spacing is perfect). Does anyone know what is goi

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Oct 2007 at 10:29, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list > anymore ... is anyone out there? I see this post, but I will note that I've been getting rejection notices from the SHSU server (via my ISP's SMTP server), and have had to resend s

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Carl Dershem
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list anymore ... is anyone out there? Dean Not me. I'm not anywhere any more. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Final

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok, thanks. Guess I'm communicating with the world, just am not getting any responses to questions ... I'll hang in. Cheers, Dean On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:41 AM, John Howell wrote: At 10:29 AM -0700 10/13/07, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Oct 2007 at 0:52, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > David W. Fenton / 07.10.12 / 0:05 AM wrote: > >Does Sibelius already do Unicode and handle double-byte character > >sets transparently? > > Double-byte char sets isn't Unicode, you know that, right? Yes. That's why I didn't say just Unicode. I was

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread timothy.key.price
Hey, I hang on every word. :-) On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: I saw a couple a while ago...did you somehow reset your prefs not to see your own posts? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dean M. Estabrook Sent: Sat 13-Oct-07 13:29 To: Finale

Re: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread John Howell
At 10:29 AM -0700 10/13/07, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list anymore ... is anyone out there? Dean Got this one, and at least one earlier. John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox

RE: [Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Williams, Jim
I saw a couple a while ago...did you somehow reset your prefs not to see your own posts? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dean M. Estabrook Sent: Sat 13-Oct-07 13:29 To: Finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] My posts My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to

[Finale] My posts

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
My posts to Finale do not seem to be making it to the list anymore ... is anyone out there? Dean Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home Don't worry about the end of the world, it's already tomorrow in Australia. Charles Shultz ___

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread John Howell
At 4:57 PM +0200 10/13/07, dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: Follow that link if you're interested in investigating Sibelius. I'm interested in investigating Sibelius, but I totally disagree with their commercial policy. The price in Europe is over 3 times what it is in North and South America (or

[Finale] Sib 5

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
So, let me get this straight. If I purchase and load the Sibelius, I will still have total access to the Garitan library of samples and Kontakt 2, etc.? Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home Don't worry about the end of the world, it's already tomorrow in Australia.

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Again, yes, of course. I thought that was clear. Many US products ship to North America only, or to Canada only. Others ship worldwide with a small number of exceptions. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 13 Oct 2007, at 12:04 PM, dc wrote: Darcy James Argue écrit: If you g

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
So, let me get this straight. If I purchase and load the Sibelius, I will still have total access to the Garitan library of samples and Kontakt 2, etc.? Dean On Oct 13, 2007, at 2:05 AM, dhbailey wrote: http://www.audiomidi.com/Sibelius-5-Professional---Competitive- Upgrade-P9803.aspx?cpi

Re: [Finale] It's strange...

2007-10-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Wow, thanks for clearing that up. I mean, I really needed that.. Jón Kristinn Cortez wrote: On 13.10.2007, at 08:59, Eric Dannewitz wrote: And we also go off on other tangents as wellso, your point is? strange |strānj| |streɪndʒ| |streɪn(d)ʒ| adjective 1 unusual or surprising i

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Of course. If you go to Amazon.com, for instance, there are many, many products that are not for export (even to Canada). It's up to each company to determine where their products may be sold (except in those cases where there are regulations prohibiting the export of that product entirel

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Perfectly legal. Surely you know someone in the US, though, who would be willing to take delivery of the upgrade then mail it to you? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 13 Oct 2007, at 10:57 AM, dc wrote: So my question is: how legal is it in the US to refuse to ship

Re: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I wonder if they would sell it to Germany? To be honest, I think if Sibelius now offered the competitive upgrade for that price or less they would probably win most of the current Finale owners over to their boat. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

RE: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Richard Yates
I also just ordered it for $85. Consider that this is significantly less than the 2008 Finale upgrade that many of us have passed on. I know that Sib5 does not have a couple of features that are mandatory for me, but I am more optimistic that the features will be added someday than that Finale will

RE: [Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread Williams, Jim
Well, I just popped for it--it's a steal at that $80 price. I hadn't even thought of buying it, but that was just too tempting. I suppose I want to say thanx for the info, David, but my wallet is now $85 or so lighter! ;-) So let's see if the geographical territory extends to Indianapolis! ;-

Re: [Finale] Negotiating the fine print in the Sib5 competitive upgrade

2007-10-13 Thread ThomaStudios
FWIW, I had the same inquiry. I just didn't both asking it to Sibelius. I found an old Finale 2004 install CD that I knew I'd never use again and sent it in with the competitive upgrade form. But had I known this from Barton before, I could have even saved myself that trouble. J D Th

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 13.10.2007 Stan Lord wrote: Two people I know to whom I introduced Fin. moved over to Sib. a few years ago. They said they couldn't spare the time to learn Finale. Yes. You know, I know quite a lot of such people. This issue comes up every now and then, and every time it ended with the st

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale '08

2007-10-13 Thread Stan Lord
On 11 Oct 2007, at 17:47, Brian Appleby wrote: I have been a Finale user since Version 1 - my serial number is under 000650. I actually attended a hotel room demo by Phil Farrand at NAMM 1988, before the program was released. So I'm a Finale geezer. Me too. My serial no. is below 00026

Re: [Finale] It's strange...

2007-10-13 Thread dhbailey
Jón Kristinn Cortez wrote: It's strange..., being on a help/discussion list for some application and most postings for a long time are about how to buy some other application! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman

Re: [Finale] Negotiating the fine print in the Sib5 competitive upgrade

2007-10-13 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit: > Simply put your Finale serial number on the registration form and mark it to > my attention. There will be no problem with registration. This is indeed an easy solution, but one wonders how they can check the validity of the serial number. I doubt that MM

Re: [Finale] It's strange...

2007-10-13 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
On 13.10.2007, at 08:59, Eric Dannewitz wrote: And we also go off on other tangents as wellso, your point is? strange |strānj| |streɪndʒ| |streɪn(d)ʒ| adjective 1 unusual or surprising in a way that is unsettling or hard to understand : children have some strange ideas | he's a very str

[Finale] Sib5 competitve upgrade is available for $80

2007-10-13 Thread dhbailey
http://www.audiomidi.com/Sibelius-5-Professional---Competitive-Upgrade-P9803.aspx?cpid=2872 Follow that link if you're interested in investigating Sibelius. The competitive upgrade has never been cheaper. I have no idea if there is a geographical limitation for this offer or not. -- David H

Re: [Finale] It's strange...

2007-10-13 Thread Eric Dannewitz
And we also go off on other tangents as wellso, your point is? Sent on the go via my iPhone On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Jón Kristinn Cortez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's strange..., being on a help/discussion list for some application and most postings for a long time are

[Finale] It's strange...

2007-10-13 Thread Jón Kristinn Cortez
It's strange..., being on a help/discussion list for some application and most postings for a long time are about how to buy some other application! Cortez ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Negotiating the fine print in the Sib5 competitive upgrade

2007-10-13 Thread Bunnydowns
Since the Sib website demands that anyone applying for the $99 upgrade mail in the first two pages of their Finale manual (photocopies not accepted), and since many people only have the OLD, David Bailey suggested that I write to Sibelius and ask what else would be acceptable to them. I did so