Actually, what I would like to see is a kind of negative competition.
I want to see which deficiencies the programs have. Eg, I would really
like to know how Sibelius's beams and slurs (in V6) compare to Finale's.
Beams an slurs were the two items which made me stay with Finale. So
far
Btw, is there any other serious notation software still on the
market which can compare to Finale or Sibelius?
score, if the owner ever gives in and lets someone else at the code.
the recent lng-awaited windows version was an absolute
disaster.
noteability, although development is
At 6/29/2009 09:00 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 20:53, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 13:33, Christopher Smith wrote:
I'm just saying that just because the study may be valid, it
doesn't mean it applies to
On 30 Jun 2009 at 12:15, shirling neueweise wrote:
lilypond (open source)
Does lilypond still have no user interface? Er, I mean, is it still
completely command-line based? I just don't see using a non-GUI app
for producing notation.
--
David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com
On 30 Jun 2009 at 7:24, Phil Daley wrote:
At 6/29/2009 09:00 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 20:53, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 13:33, Christopher Smith wrote:
I'm just saying that just
i had a quick look through an article on linuxsomethingorother.org
and there are a couple of apps that provide a GUI but have no idea
how sophisticated they are.
Does lilypond still have no user interface? Er, I mean, is it still
completely command-line based? I just don't see using a
What ever happened to Graphire Music Press?
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:52 AM, shirling
neueweiseshirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:
i had a quick look through an article on linuxsomethingorother.org and there
are a couple of apps that provide a GUI but have no idea how sophisticated
they
Does lilypond still have no user interface? Er, I mean, is it still
completely command-line based? I just don't see using a non-GUI app
for producing notation.
I try and follow these technical discussions but surely it's time
to give up a thread when the words contained in the reply might
well, *you* can give up (on) the thread -- i dont see any reason for
the thread itself to be given up -- or you can look up the fairly
common terms used in this thread, or you can ask the kind people on
the list what the terms mean that you don't understand, or you can
look up lilypond and
GUI is graphical user interface, and describes the type of environment where
documents are edited pictorially, that is by dragging and positioning things
with the mouse and other similar direct interactions, so that what we see on
screen is highly indicative of the final result. Finale, Sibelius,
Aryeh,
Works the same way in Fin(Mac) 2009 and 2010.
Cheers!
Eric
Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler)
www.habsburgerverlag.de
eric.f.fied...@t-online.de
e.fied...@em.uni-frankfurt.de
On
At 8:45 AM +0200 6/30/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
So far nothing offers as much flexibility as Patterson Beams.
Hi, Johannes. Not to belabor the obvious, but isn't Patterson Beams
a third-party add-on which is NOT part of Finale and shouldn't be
considered in a direct comparison since it
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jun 2009 at 7:24, Phil Daley wrote:
At 6/29/2009 09:00 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 20:53, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:35 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 29 Jun 2009 at 13:33, Christopher Smith wrote:
I'm just
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:28 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 8:45 AM +0200 6/30/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
So far nothing offers as much flexibility as Patterson Beams.
Hi, Johannes. Not to belabor the obvious, but isn't Patterson Beams
a third-party add-on which is NOT part of Finale and
Ray Horton wrote:
John Howell wrote:
At 8:45 AM +0200 6/30/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
So far nothing offers as much flexibility as Patterson Beams.
Hi, Johannes. Not to belabor the obvious, but isn't Patterson Beams a
third-party add-on which is NOT part of Finale and shouldn't be
On 30.06.2009 John Howell wrote:
Hi, Johannes. Not to belabor the obvious, but isn't Patterson Beams a
third-party add-on which is NOT part of Finale and shouldn't be considered in a
direct comparison since it makes up for deficiencies in the program itself?
What other add-ons are
Johannes Gebauerli...@musikmanufaktur.com wrote:
Is there a beaming plugin for Sibelius which does the same as PB? I am only
interested in what the program can do, whether with or without plugins.
Hi Johannes:
I asked Daniel Spreadbury your question: Here's his reply--
Sibelius's Optical
On 30 Jun 2009 at 14:52, shirling neueweise wrote:
Does lilypond still have no user interface? Er, I mean, is it still
completely command-line based? I just don't see using a non-GUI app
for producing notation.
i had a quick look through an article on linuxsomethingorother.org
and
On 1 Jul 2009 at 2:00, Andrew Moschou wrote:
Here, David doesn't comprehend how it could be advantageous to use such a
system, when the result is extremely graphical and the desired results must
be described using text instructions.
I'm not sure you intend that as a criticism or not.
Does lilypond still have no user interface? Er, I mean, is
it still completely command-line based? I just don't see
using a non-GUI app for producing notation.
I try and follow these technical discussions but surely
it's time to give up a thread when the words contained in the
reply
Do you recall if these GUIs run on any actual desktop OS's, er, I
mean, on something other than Linux?
don't think so, but have to admit my perusal of this has been rather
superficial, no time at the moment
On 30 Jun 2009 at 13:28, John Howell wrote:
It seems that add-ons should not be considered in any fair
comparison
I think it depends on what you're testing.
If you're testing the bare application, out of the box, then you test
it as installed by default. A version of Patterson Beams ships
On 30 Jun 2009 at 19:03, Owain Sutton wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jun 2009 at 7:24, Phil Daley wrote:
I'm flabbergasted at the opposition the mere reporting of a fact has
generating.
Because it isn't a fact.
Yes, it *is* a fact: The studies where, in FACT, done, and did,
Hi Johannes,
Like I said previously, it is possible to set the Sibelius beaming
options to get results similar to Patterson Beams on entry, without
having to apply a plugin.
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
djar...@earthlink.net
Brooklyn, NY
On 30 Jun 2009, at 3:38 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jun 2009 at 19:03, Owain Sutton wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 30 Jun 2009 at 7:24, Phil Daley wrote:
I'm flabbergasted at the opposition the mere reporting of a fact has
generating.
Because it isn't a fact.
Yes, it *is* a fact: The studies where, in FACT,
Does anyone have any background on a number of notation programs
which are virtually unknown in the U.S. but seem to have dedicated
followers elsewhere, sometimes quite nationally based? I generally
run across mentions of these on more general music listserves, on
which the users are rather
Does anyone have any background on a number of notation programs
which are virtually unknown in the U.S. but seem to have dedicated
followers elsewhere, sometimes quite nationally based?
berlioz / france. is now free, owner want to make it open source and
is looking for develppers
Wow...thanx for the tip about Berlioz! Just nabbed it!
What about Turandot (www.turandot.hu)? There are a couple of german ones that I
will list as I am able to recall them.
Jim W.
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