Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Amen to that, Andrew. And then all you'd have to do is to borrow his "silent" trumpet and show him how to get the effect. Reminds me of the story I heard where Andrés Segovia told Heitor Villa-Lobos that something he was asking for couldn't be done, whereupon V-L picked up the guitar a

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sat Mar 13, at SaturdayMar 13 10:52 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:47 PM, dhbailey wrote: Perhaps the effect differs with different numbers of people doing it, but I've heard it done quite effectively without anybody reversing mouthpieces. So help me to und

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Robert Patterson
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:47 PM, dhbailey wrote: > > Perhaps the effect differs with different numbers of people doing it, but > I've heard it done quite effectively without anybody reversing mouthpieces. > > So help me to understand. You are sitting in the audience of a large hall listening to a

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Robert Patterson wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: "Are you saying the effect is impossible? If so, I can cite numerous recordings from major composers proving you wrong. If it's not impossible, then what are you saying? That it's beneath your dignity, or that you

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I clearly remember what our principal trumpet said one time to a composer who had asked fro the effect (n the middle of rehearsal in front of the entire orch. and conductor). "You know, I have spent a lot of money to h

[Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Daniel Wolf
For the record Watrous was definitely paying an homage to Stuart Dempster, for whom composer Robert Erickson wrote _General Speech_ which is a semi-theatrical setting of MacArthur's farewell address for solo trombone, using every variety of vowel resonance and consonant articulation availab

[Finale] Patch Oddity!

2010-03-13 Thread dershem
Using FinWin2010, and a big band setup (went through the whole schtick to make sure I get garritan sounds and all that), and the Bari Sax part is being played by ... a Cello. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course, but it's not the sound i want, or asked for. I checked the Inst

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Robert Patterson
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > > "Are you saying the effect is impossible? If so, I can cite numerous > recordings from major composers proving you wrong. If it's not impossible, > then what are you saying? That it's beneath your dignity, or that you are > personally in

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I clearly remember what our principal trumpet said one time to a composer who had asked fro the effect (n the middle of rehearsal in front of the entire orch. and conductor). "You know, I have spent a lot of money to have a trumpet that does

RE: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Guy Hayden
OK, thanks. I figured "reverse" was the thing to do but was not really certain. Guy Hayden -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:32 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: blowing

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread dhbailey
Guy Hayden wrote: Not being a brass player, I find this suggestion difficult to understand. Can you describe it a bit more clearly? Do you blow across the "wrong" end of the mouthpiece like blowing across a beer bottle? What I cannot figure is the idea of "inverting" the mouthpiece. Aren't the

Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments

2010-03-13 Thread Christopher Smith
Well, you would need a text indication as well! X heads are common for all kinds of unpitched sounds on many instruments, but you need to say what you mean. Christopher On Sat Mar 13, at SaturdayMar 13 12:17 AM, Rich Caldwell wrote: In this score X noteheads and diamonds are used for other