Re: [Finale] Hairpins

You really need to learn how to use Windows better, including Windows Explorer. We've all been assuming that you know how to move files around on your hard drive. You move the folder using Windows Explorer, to drag it from the location you unzipped it to and place it in the folder that I've o

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2019, at 12:44, David H. Bailey > wrote: > >> On 2/2/2019 7:04 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >> Yes it works in windows. You have to download the windows version. I don't >> know the plugin folder in Windows but Program Options will show it. > To find the folder l

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2019, at 12:44, David H. Bailey > wrote: > >> On 2/2/2019 7:04 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >> Yes it works in windows. You have to download the windows version. I don't >> know the plugin folder in Windows but Program Options will show it. > To find the folder l

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Thanks David will try very shortly Martin Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2019, at 12:44, David H. Bailey > wrote: > >> On 2/2/2019 7:04 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >> Yes it works in windows. You have to download the windows version. I don't >> know the plugin folder in Windows but Program Op

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

On 2/2/2019 7:04 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Yes it works in windows. You have to download the windows version. I don't know the plugin folder in Windows but Program Options will show it. To find the folder location, open Finale, then under the Edit menu select Preferences and in the dialog whi

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Yes it works in windows. You have to download the windows version. I don't know the plugin folder in Windows but Program Options will show it. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:35 PM Martin Nickless wrote: > Sorry doesn’t work in windows > No problem > Some easy instruction would help > > Sent from my iP

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Sorry doesn’t work in windows No problem Some easy instruction would help Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 23:15, Robert Patterson wrote: > > Unzip the plugins files. > Quit Finale. > Drag the "Patterson Plugins" folder to Finale's plugin folder. > Restart Finale. > > You can find the

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

No doesn’t work No problem Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 23:15, Robert Patterson wrote: > > Unzip the plugins files. > Quit Finale. > Drag the "Patterson Plugins" folder to Finale's plugin folder. > Restart Finale. > > You can find the Finale Plugins folder by looking at the Folders

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Unzip the plugins files. Quit Finale. Drag the "Patterson Plugins" folder to Finale's plugin folder. Restart Finale. You can find the Finale Plugins folder by looking at the Folders tab in Program Options. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:03 PM Martin Nickless wrote: > Thanks I’m on windows 10 > Coul

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Is there not installation instructions on Robert’s site? *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Feb 2, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Martin Nickless wrote: > > Thanks I’m on windows 10 > Could you help with that version cheers > Martin > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 2 Feb 2019, at

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Thanks I’m on windows 10 Could you help with that version cheers Martin Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 21:26, "j...@thomastudios.com" > wrote: > > With Finale not running, place Robert’s plugin bundle into the Plugins > folder. If you’re on a Mac, this will be in your user folder

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

With Finale not running, place Robert’s plugin bundle into the Plugins folder. If you’re on a Mac, this will be in your user folder, Library, under Application Support. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Martin Nickless wrote: > > Hi download

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Hi downloaded can see the files How do I open in finale Thank you Martin Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 18:31, Robert Patterson wrote: > > You can get Mass Copy by downloading it from my website > . The download includes > an unre

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Hi I’ll try that Thanks Martin Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 18:31, Robert Patterson wrote: > > You can get Mass Copy by downloading it from my website > . The download includes > an unrestricted 30-day trial. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 201

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

You can get Mass Copy by downloading it from my website . The download includes an unrestricted 30-day trial. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:07 PM Martin Nickless wrote: > Hi how do I get that ? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 2 Feb 2019, at 17:31,

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Hi how do I get that ? Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 17:31, "j...@thomastudios.com" > wrote: > > Besides Chris’ suggestion, Robert’s Mass Copy works great in this situation. > I use it all the time. > > *** > J D Thomas > ThomaStudios > > > >> On Feb 2,

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Thanks Chris Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Feb 2019, at 16:58, Christopher Smith > wrote: > > I like to set the filter to copy only beat-attached smart shapes, and copy > them from staff to staff vertically. This works horizontally as well, but > only if they are supposed to be the same length

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Besides Chris’ suggestion, Robert’s Mass Copy works great in this situation. I use it all the time. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Feb 2, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Martin Nickless wrote: > > > Hi there could I ask a simple question > “ how do you enter many hair pins int

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

I like to set the filter to copy only beat-attached smart shapes, and copy them from staff to staff vertically. This works horizontally as well, but only if they are supposed to be the same length. TG Tools has a function to align dynamics and hairpins horizontally. Many people use it extensive

[Finale] Hairpins

Hi there could I ask a simple question “ how do you enter many hair pins into finale Eg on every staff And is there a metatool that can do this And finally his can I ensure they will all be in line Thanks very much Martin Sent from my iPhone ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

Great to hear this! Michael On 15/11/2016 16:08, Jan Angermüller wrote: > Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create > niente hairpins in Finale. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYfVVNnYgw > > Any niente "o" symbol is recognized as the full music font database is > i

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

Nice! Steve P. > On 15 Nov 2016, at 16:34, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > > This. This. This! Thanks so much ... can't wait to put it to work! > > Dennis > > > On Tue, November 15, 2016 11:08 am, Jan Angermüller wrote: >> Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

This. This. This! Thanks so much ... can't wait to put it to work! Dennis On Tue, November 15, 2016 11:08 am, Jan Angermüller wrote: > Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create > niente hairpins in Finale. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYfVVNnYgw > > Any niente "o

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

Hi Jan, Amazing! Can’t wait for this to be released! Cheers, — DJA - http://secretsocietymusic.org > On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Jan Angermüller wrote: > > Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create > niente hairpins in Finale. > https://www.youtube.com/wat

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create niente hairpins in Finale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYfVVNnYgw Any niente "o" symbol is recognized as the full music font database is included with support of more than 400 music fonts (and text fonts of course). The s

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

I've found shapes generally to be more reliable since Fin14, but you are right that independent time sigs are a problem. (Especially jumping between mus and musx.) But either way it doesn't really address OP's issue. Whether you could include the "niente" symbol or not, you'd still have these issu

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

On Sun, November 13, 2016 10:20 am, Robert Patterson wrote: >> I wish that, once overruled by hand-adjustment, it would no > longer search for the nearest beat. > > Try Preferences->Edit->Anchor Indicator Lines... That only changes the rubber bands. I mean the *shape* won't hold its position or r

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

> I wish that, once overruled by hand-adjustment, it would no longer search for the nearest beat. Try Preferences->Edit->Anchor Indicator Lines... On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz < bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote: > On Sun, November 13, 2016 9:28 am, Robert Patterson wrote:

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

On Sun, November 13, 2016 9:28 am, Robert Patterson wrote: > I have often wished for a "cresc" or "dim" line option in custom lines, but > alas it doesn't exist. That said, what you want to do is *much* more > reliable starting in Fin14 due to the beat attachment of hairpins. This is buggy in anyt

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

I have often wished for a "cresc" or "dim" line option in custom lines, but alas it doesn't exist. That said, what you want to do is *much* more reliable starting in Fin14 due to the beat attachment of hairpins. I would enter the circles as text expressions. The beauty of beat-attached hairpins is

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

I don't know why. It's a kludge for sure. I've never had it change from page to print. I do tend to do things like this last after layout. Steve P. > On 13 Nov 2016, at 13:49, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > >> On Sun, November 13, 2016 8:35 am, Steve Parker wrote: >> My dodgy method is to

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

On Sun, November 13, 2016 8:35 am, Steve Parker wrote: > My dodgy method is to use a diminished chord symbol sign on the end of a smart > hairpin. Slightly better tendency to stay put once dragged.. Is this different from the harmonic circle that I use? And why would it more likely stay in place?

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

My dodgy method is to use a diminished chord symbol sign on the end of a smart hairpin. Slightly better tendency to stay put once dragged.. Steve P. > On 13 Nov 2016, at 13:06, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > >> On Sun, November 13, 2016 7:26 am, Michael Lawlor wrote: >> [Finale 2014.5] >>

Re: [Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

On Sun, November 13, 2016 7:26 am, Michael Lawlor wrote: > [Finale 2014.5] > > I would like to use hairpins with circles at the end, a standard > notational element in modern music for cresc. from silence and dim. to > silence. Is this possible in Finale? I have found some old discussions > about

[Finale] Hairpins: cresc. dal niente; dim. al niente

[Finale 2014.5] I would like to use hairpins with circles at the end, a standard notational element in modern music for cresc. from silence and dim. to silence. Is this possible in Finale? I have found some old discussions about creating expressions, but they cannot be stretched and look ama

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

http://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/finmain.html *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Martin Nickless wrote: > > Sounds good > Would you mind sending me a link > And I'll get it > Thanks > M > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 18 Oct 2016, at 15

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Ok thankyou very much Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Oct 2016, at 16:14, S Jones wrote: > > Enter the first hairpin to your liking. Add the remaining hairpins to the > other staves. Select ALL the hairpins that you want to look alike. Right > click the first hairpin and select make vertical to h

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Enter the first hairpin to your liking. Add the remaining hairpins to the other staves. Select ALL the hairpins that you want to look alike. Right click the first hairpin and select make vertical to haven the all adjust to the same look as he first one. On Tuesday, October 18, 2016, Martin Nickles

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

Sounds good Would you mind sending me a link And I'll get it Thanks M Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Oct 2016, at 15:54, "j...@thomastudios.com" > wrote: > > I get this all the time from one of my more anal retentive clients! So I > just create the first one, get it the way I want it to look

Re: [Finale] Hairpins

I get this all the time from one of my more anal retentive clients! So I just create the first one, get it the way I want it to look, and then copy to all other staves using Robert’s Mass Mover from Patterson plugins. It works great and fast. If you don’t own this plugin set, you should. ***

[Finale] Hairpins

Hello there Hope this doesn't seem like a real easy question But if you have many hairpins say in all trumpets and trombones in a big band score ! Which is the best way to get them to look nice and neat and All aligned the same way I tried TG tools but convinced I'm not doing it right As the c

[Finale] Hairpins in 2014.5

I recently switched to Finale 2014.5 (running El Capitan). When converting older documents (from 2011), sometimes I try to edit a pre-existing crescendo ordiminuendo hairpin in Smart Shape tool, because it is too short. But when I tryto lengthen it, at least in Page View (by dragging the right e

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and Articulations Leaving 'Ghosts'

Sometimes repositioned things (expressions, smart shapes, articulations) do not move onscreen until Cmd-D. It is an annoyance that remains in 2014. Hard to think why when so much code is claimed to have been rewritten in 2014. Chuck > On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:16 AM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and Articulations Leaving 'Ghosts'

It’s an annoying bug and or limitation to Finales graphic engine. And no, there is no workaround. I’ve gotten using to Cmd-D but it’s still an annoyance. And yes, it is there in 2012. I haven’t done enough file editing in 2014 to state for sure whether or not it’s still there. Can’t say tha

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and Articulations Leaving 'Ghosts'

After repositioning, hit "command R" to redraw. tim On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Michael Dutka wrote: > Hi, folks. Running 2010 on a Macbook Pro. I often have a problem when I > want to reposition hairpins. I click the Smart Shapes tool, and either > delete and re-enter them, or reposition them

[Finale] Hairpins and Articulations Leaving 'Ghosts'

Hi, folks. Running 2010 on a Macbook Pro. I often have a problem when I want to reposition hairpins. I click the Smart Shapes tool, and either delete and re-enter them, or reposition them with the cursor. Often (but not always), I can see 'ghosts' of the old hairpins along with the new ones. Not a

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

Hi Dennis, It should actually collapse the space between staves (make sure you are selecting the entire system). Although you are correct that if you collapse the bottom staff, it will take up space. You can use "cutaway" instead of "collapse" if you do want the hidden staves to take up space.

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 7:13 pm, Darcy James Argue wrote: > It is actually in the Finale 2011 default file, but you probably aren't basing > your documents on the default file. Just create it yourself by defining a new > staff style that uses the "Force Hide Staff" option (it's in between "Flat > B

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 7:00 pm, Robert Patterson wrote: > I have worked around this problem for years by having the independent time > sigs actually be the same underlying time sig, just displaying as > different. Then I enter exactly one invisible tuplet at beginning of each > bar that contains m

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

Hi Dennis, It is actually in the Finale 2011 default file, but you probably aren't basing your documents on the default file. Just create it yourself by defining a new staff style that uses the "Force Hide Staff" option (it's in between "Flat Beams" and "Ignore Key Signatures"). Cheers, - DJA

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

I have worked around this problem for years by having the independent time sigs actually be the same underlying time sig, just displaying as different. Then I enter exactly one invisible tuplet at beginning of each bar that contains music. With my Mass Copy plugin, I can copy that tuplet to every o

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 5:46 pm, Darcy James Argue wrote: > You can also hide and/or show the scratch staff as needed with the Collapse > staff style -- no need to delete/re-create, etc. That sounds ideal ... but I don't see it in the Finale 2011 predefined styles. Does it use F2012 features, or d

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

Hi Dennis, You can also hide and/or show the scratch staff as needed with the Collapse staff style -- no need to delete/re-create, etc. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Oct 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Tue, October 9, 2012 3:34 pm, Dar

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 3:34 pm, Darcy James Argue wrote: > So, add a new scratch staff that does not have independent time sigs, right? Seems reasonable, except for the alignment issue. If I touch any of them afterwards, they snap back to their bizarre condition. The scratch staff would have to b

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

Hi Dennis, So, add a new scratch staff that does not have independent time sigs, right? Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Oct 9, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > They all have independent time sigs. ___

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 2:11 pm, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: > There is a work-around, which is to enter the hairpin in another staff that > doesn't have an independent time signature, and copy it. This doesn't work. As soon as you move the hairpin at all (mouse drag or arrow nudge, even

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On Tue, October 9, 2012 2:11 pm, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: > No, it hasn't been fixed. It has been there for quite a while, as I recall. Boo. > There is a work-around, which is to enter the hairpin in another staff that > doesn't have an independent time signature, and copy it. You'll

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

On 2012-10-09 18:23, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > Anyone know if F2012 has fixed the problem with hairpins not stretching > properly with independent time signatures? There is no change there. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

-attached smart shapes don't copy. Urg. Christopher - Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:50 pm Subject: [Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs To: finale@shsu.edu > Hi all, > > Anyone know if F2012 has fixed

[Finale] Hairpins and different time sigs

Hi all, Anyone know if F2012 has fixed the problem with hairpins not stretching properly with independent time signatures? Still trying to scrape together pennies for the upgrade (been a rough year) and wonder if, based on the number of complaints and changes, F2012 is a good upgrade. I compose i