Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-24 Thread John Howell
At 11:32 PM -0500 1/23/09, Ray Horton wrote: John Howell wrote: I just looked through the original part, and the highest notes I can see are several Ds and 2 Es. Where's the F supposed to be? John Keep looking, John. OK, that was snarky. Try measure 453-454 - ff. You do remember

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-23 Thread John Howell
At 8:32 PM -0500 1/20/09, Christopher Smith wrote: Yes, yes, that was my point. (Humour!) Of course I know all the usual repertoire for trombones before the 5th, but the symphony was considered the large canvas for composers since the Baroque. (Catching up with some messages, having just

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-23 Thread Ray Horton
John Howell wrote: I just looked through the original part, and the highest notes I can see are several Ds and 2 Es. Where's the F supposed to be? John Keep looking, John. OK, that was snarky. Try measure 453-454 - ff. You do remember how to read the clef, don't you? (Aren't you

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah, thank you sir. That was a fact which escaped my undergrad Music History class ... or, more likely, I was gone that day, enjoying the many allurements of the greater Tucson, AZ environs. Dean On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:36 PM, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: Beethoven 5 is usually considered the

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread arabushk
I would look askance at any history class dealing with music of this time period that didn't include this fact. Then again, as a former trombone player, it is a red-letter event which we all celebrate! ajr Ah, thank you sir. That was a fact which escaped my undergrad Music History class ...

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Martin Banner
Wow, even I mentioned this fact as a major event to my high school music history class! Martin On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:02 PM, arabu...@cowtown.net wrote: I would look askance at any history class dealing with music of this time period that didn't include this fact. Then again, as a former

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
(Aaron - could you forward this to the list for me in the event it doesn't make it on its own?Yahoogroups has (I've been told) probably erroneously misidentified my entire ISP as a s-p-a-m source and it's affected ALL my yahoogroup membershipsthanks!) And perhaps most important is the

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Geez ... and the trb. section looked so calm the other night! Perhaps they were petrified. Thanks, Dean On Jan 20, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Yup, we see it as making us wait 300 years to play with the big boys, THEN we STILL have to wait until the last freakin'

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
As I said earlier ... it could very well been discussed ... but I was an undergrad, the desert mountains, canyons, and kegs of Coors were a constant siren song in our hearts. Most likely it was my bad, not the prof's. Dean On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Martin Banner wrote: Wow, even I

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Andrew Stiller
Christopher Smith: Yup, we see it as making us wait 300 years to play with the big boys, THEN we STILL have to wait until the last freakin' movement when our chops are nice and stiff from lack of use, THEN he makes the first trombone enter (first entrance in HISTORY, not just this symphony!)

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2009-01-20 Thread arabushk
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Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Mark McCarron
when using the playback controls on Fin 2009 Mac OS 10.4.11 I get a message to enter a number between 1 and 1. Can this be fixed? Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Allen Fisher
Set the Repeat counter in the playback controls to 1 On Jan 20, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Mark McCarron wrote: when using the playback controls on Fin 2009 Mac OS 10.4.11 I get a message to enter a number between 1 and 1. Can this be fixed? Mark McCarron

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 20, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Christopher Smith: Yup, we see it as making us wait 300 years to play with the big boys, THEN we STILL have to wait until the last freakin' movement when our chops are nice and stiff from lack of use, THEN he makes the first trombone

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-20 Thread arabushk
It all depends on which big boys you're talking about. Even in some of those operas you mentioned trombone players sit around and hear everybody else make the piece while they count TACETs. They only play in 2 out of 5 acts of Orfeo (and let's not split hairs over whether or not the opening

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-19 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Speaking of bassoons, I went to a symphony concert this weekend, wherein was performed Beethoven 5. Included in the instrumentation was a Contra Bassoon, which was used only (as best I could see) in the last movement, doubling the Third Bone part. I don't have a score to the work, so

Re: [Finale] Notation for buzzing a bassoon reed by itself (Somewhat OT)

2009-01-19 Thread arabushk
Beethoven 5 is usually considered the first appearance in a symphony of trombones, contrabassoon, and piccolo. The contrabassoon mostly doubles the string bass parts. When my community orchestra played Beethoven 5 years ago the contra was just left out, and not missed. Another community orchestra