Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-03 Thread Ken Moore
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Howell wrote: >The problem with that method >is that it leaves it entirely up to the player to figure out how and >where to finger the harmonic. Exactly. That's what I do. You put in bowings, they change them. You put in phrasings, t

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Owain Sutton
> > Perhaps so; I don't know how much training in harmonics a > violinist gets compared to, say, a guitarist, whose scores > are littered with harmonics. In looking at your Britten > example, I can see which strings those harmonics might fall > on for greatest volume, if only because of knowi

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:20 AM 7/3/2007 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: >How about when a harmonic can be produced either as a natural harmonic >or an artificial one - if a composer prefers the timbre of one over the >other, which we can hopefully agree is a major difference, why not >notate it as such? If there is, and

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Owain Sutton
> > Back in the early 1990s, I had an orchestral piece performed > where the concertmaster changed a whole group of critical > bowings without consulting me. Why? It "sounded better" and > was "easier on the players' muscles". Hoo-boy. Almost as bad > as the pianist who said she'd injure her

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:37 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote: >Touchy, touchy!!! ;-) You know that was almost all for you. :) >I've commented before (on >this list, I think), so I'll simply repeat what >I've said. You put in bowings THAT WORK and they >will not change them. It takes an experienced >player

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread John Howell
At 2:41 PM -0400 7/2/07, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 02:24 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote: The problem with that method is that it leaves it entirely up to the player to figure out how and where to finger the harmonic. Exactly. That's what I do. You put in bowings, they change them.

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Owain Sutton
> > On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: > > > > In fact, one of the contexts I was thinking of where > natural harmonics > > are best notated with diamond noteheads is in the Ravel > quartet, with > > slurs across all four strings of each instrument, with various > > harmonics on

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Owain Sutton wrote: In fact, one of the contexts I was thinking of where natural harmonics are best notated with diamond noteheads is in the Ravel quartet, with slurs across all four strings of each instrument, with various harmonics on the different strings. To

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:24 PM 7/2/2007 -0400, John Howell wrote: >The problem with that method >is that it leaves it entirely up to the player to figure out how and >where to finger the harmonic. Exactly. That's what I do. You put in bowings, they change them. You put in phrasings, they change them. You put in dy

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread John Howell
At 9:43 AM -0400 7/2/07, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote: Dear Christopher, I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the playback engine is Kontakt 2. I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using TGT) play back cor

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Owain Sutton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 July 2007 17:26 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: RE: [Finale] db harmonics > > > One of my bass-playing college friends had a chart of bass

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread arabushk
One of my bass-playing college friends had a chart of bass harmonics as notated in the works of Maurice Ravel, who himself used several different notation. Onward and upaward, Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk ___ Fi

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 2, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote: Dear Christopher, I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the playback engine is Kontakt 2. I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using TGT) play back cor

RE: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Owain Sutton
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith > Sent: 02 July 2007 14:43 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] db harmonics > > > > On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote: >

Re: [Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Will Denayer wrote: Dear Christopher, I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the playback engine is Kontakt 2. I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using TGT) play back correctly, natural harmonics (articulation tool - n

[Finale] db harmonics

2007-07-01 Thread Will Denayer
Dear Christopher, I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the playback engine is Kontakt 2. I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using TGT) play back correctly, natural harmonics (articulation tool - no.21), do not play back, I hear the note which is w