Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

I wrote: >> You said >> closing the file without saving won't get you entries back. Which then Darcy replied: >No, I didn't -- I think you must have misunderstood. I said that >undoing -- even to the end of the undo tree -- won't get the entries >back. This made me believe the data is fine if

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Phil, For some reason I read your post as tongue in cheek. Please accept my apology. Don Hart on 10/20/05 5:52 AM, Phil Daley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 10/19/2005 01:56 PM, Don Hart wrote: > >> You're a little eager to start an OS war, aren't you? > > Actually, I was saying that Mac

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

At 10/19/2005 01:56 PM, Don Hart wrote: >You're a little eager to start an OS war, aren't you? Actually, I was saying that Mac users have more faith in Apple than Windows users have in Microsoft. Therefore, the slap was at Windows, which is my OS of choice. And most people on this list must

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Looks like this bug triggers from a variety of actions and with some different results. I thought I should weigh in on some of the questions you posed to Darcy. on 10/19/05 6:19 PM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So, when you say lost entry, the frames become blank or rests that >

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

I wrote: >> You said >> closing the file without saving won't get you entries back. Darcy James Argue / 2005/10/19 / 07:31 PM wrote: >No, I didn't -- I think you must have misunderstood. I said that >undoing -- even to the end of the undo tree -- won't get the entries >back. Oh, then you didn

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On 19.10.2005 Darcy James Argue wrote: Robert is (AFAIK) not using Finale 2006 on a regular basis. MakeMusic are able to reproduce the bug in-house -- it's definitely a Finale issue. FWIW, I don't believe Robert or Johannes ever experienced the text block bug either, but it was nonetheless

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On 19 Oct 2005, at 7:19 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: So, when you say lost entry, the frames become blank or rests that indicates empty measures, Yes. You said closing the file without saving won't get you entries back. No, I didn't -- I think you must have misunderstood. I said that undoing

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Darcy James Argue / 2005/10/19 / 06:00 PM wrote: >Hi Hiro, > >First time, it struck very early in my work on the file -- I had >about twenty measures entered and I lost the first 14 when advancing >a measure in Speedy. > >The second time, I had about 100 measures entered, and when I added >a

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I confess I failed to keep my bugs straight, here. I misunderstood a post by Chuck, in which he said MakeMusic had not been able to reproduce a bug, and thought he was talking about the "Scary bug!" of the subject line. ns Just to k

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Damn, this is indeed scary. Dean On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: As far as I know, the size of the file doesn't matter. I've had it strike me on a single-staff part, 100 measures long, with entries in only 20-something measures. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

As far as I know, the size of the file doesn't matter. I've had it strike me on a single-staff part, 100 measures long, with entries in only 20-something measures. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/djargon Brooklyn, NY On 19 Oct 2005, at 6:16 PM, Dean M. Esta

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

I'm trying to remember what it felt and smelled like to put a pen and ink to a vellum. It's been a few decades. Dean On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I suppose this would mirror my habits if I were doing hand copying of a score and parts, using pen and iink; I expect

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

I was just about to ask the same question about my 22 stave, 190 bar piece. Dean On Oct 19, 2005, at 7:12 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: I have been trying to reproduce this bug but to no avail. Would someone post a 100% reproducible steps? I used 15 staves 145 bars of data, a native FinMac2

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Darcy James Argue wrote: I have no doubt this bug is the same one Javier and Don experienced. Robert Piéchaud has seen it as well. (Is _he_ enough of a "power user" for you to take him seriously, Noel?) Yes, but to my knowledge the report has not been made to this forum, and I was previous

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Hi Hiro, First time, it struck very early in my work on the file -- I had about twenty measures entered and I lost the first 14 when advancing a measure in Speedy. The second time, I had about 100 measures entered, and when I added an extra 100 measures with the measure tool, I lost every

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Darcy James Argue / 2005/10/19 / 05:29 PM wrote: >Hiro, > >I've seen it twice in the past week. Once when advancing a frame in >the Speedy Tool, and once when adding measures with the measure tool. Hmm, I don't know how I missed it. Sorry about that. Your scenario seems to be even worse. Wou

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

> Robert is (AFAIK) not using Finale 2006 on a regular basis. That is correct. I never adopt a new Finale release (for actual work) before the maintenance update. It is likely I will not adopt Fin06 at all. The meager benefits do not offset the risk. A favorite saying: "A superior sailor uses h

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Hiro, I've seen it twice in the past week. Once when advancing a frame in the Speedy Tool, and once when adding measures with the measure tool. I have no doubt this bug is the same one Javier and Don experienced. Robert Piéchaud has seen it as well. (Is _he_ enough of a "power user" for y

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Noel Stoutenburg / 2005/10/19 / 03:22 PM wrote: >I've counted three. all (I think) on MAC: Javier, Darcy, and Don. I still don't believe Darcy said anything about witnessing this bug. He has been mentioning something else, which is text block and auto save related, and 100% reproducible, and now

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On 19 Oct 2005, at 3:22 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: A-NO-NE Music wrote: I see. Next question is that how many people actually experienced this ["scary bug!"] I've counted three. all (I think) on MAC: Javier, Darcy, and Don. On the other hand other MAC power users who I would have expect

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On 19 Oct 2005 at 14:15, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:37 PM, Phil Daley wrote: [] > > If this bug has only bitten Mac users, maybe that's because Windows > > users rarely leave a file open for more than a few hours ;-) > > Well, Macs don't crash all that often in these post

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

Friends, Don's comments, quoted in part: The only difference I can really point to is that in the attempted recreation, I had just launched 2006, but when the bug bit I had had Finale and the file in question open for a few days. I really don't know much about this sort of thing, but might thi

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

on 10/19/05 11:37 AM, Phil Daley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 10/19/2005 11:40 AM, Don Hart wrote: > >> The only difference I can really point to is that in the attempted >> recreation, I had just launched 2006, but when the bug bit I had had Finale >> and the file in question open for a few

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

A-NO-NE Music wrote: I see. Next question is that how many people actually experienced this ["scary bug!"] I've counted three. all (I think) on MAC: Javier, Darcy, and Don. On the other hand other MAC power users who I would have expected to experience the bug (Johannes, Robert Patterson) h

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

On Oct 19, 2005, at 12:37 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 10/19/2005 11:40 AM, Don Hart wrote: >The only difference I can really point to is that in the attempted >recreation, I had just launched 2006, but when the bug bit I had had Finale >and the file in question open for a few days. I really don

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

At 10/19/2005 11:40 AM, Don Hart wrote: >The only difference I can really point to is that in the attempted >recreation, I had just launched 2006, but when the bug bit I had had Finale >and the file in question open for a few days. I really don't know much >about this sort of thing, but might th

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

on 10/19/05 9:12 AM, A-NO-NE Music at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have been trying to reproduce this bug but to no avail. Would someone > post a 100% reproducible steps? > > I used 15 staves 145 bars of data, a native FinMac2006 file. Is this > too small to reproduce this bug? Hiro, The b

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

dc / 2005/10/19 / 10:30 AM wrote: >If it were 100% reproducible, it would already be half-solved, and at least >avoidable!! > >What makes it scary is that no-one has yet figured out how it works. I see. Next question is that how many people actually experienced this bug? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Ho

Re: [Finale] Scary bug! How do I reproduce?

I have been trying to reproduce this bug but to no avail. Would someone post a 100% reproducible steps? I used 15 staves 145 bars of data, a native FinMac2006 file. Is this too small to reproduce this bug? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA