As near as I can tell, there is no artificial limit in the data
structures. I have not tried it, but I know how (datawise) to make a
plugin add more. (That doesn't mean a plugin should do it, of course.
The resulting file would be completely unsupported.)
Why the limit? Honestly I think it is
David W. Fenton wrote:
Did someone say that in Fin2009 that the "this staff only" was not
the default?
Not only is it the default, under the covers it is the only assignment
method for expressions.
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On 25 Jul 2008 at 20:39, Robert Patterson wrote:
> My recommendation is to let Makemusic know how you feel about staff
> lists. In particular, give examples of why you need more than four. My
> belief is that opening up the number of Staff Lists is not that big a
> deal for them, and I for one
On 26 Jul 2008 at 10:51, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:
> Or a
> "Score in C" marking above the Piccolo only in the score - in none of
> the parts.
Did someone say that in Fin2009 that the "this staff only" was not
the default?
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Claudio Pompili wrote:
I don't understand MM's logic in placing such an arbitrary
> limit on the SL function.
I understand why. It is a feature that is easily misunderstood and
abused by the majority of their users. They appear to be sick of
untangling the messes. This was further compounded
rote:
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:45:53 -0500
>> From: Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09
>>
>> If you made extensive, purposeful use of Staff Lists, you can kiss all
>> that goodbye. When your fi
At 12:00 -0500 25/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:45:53 -0500
From: Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09
If you made extensive, purposeful use of Staff Lists, you can kiss all
that goodbye. When your files are imported
Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:
Can you alter the "Tempo Staves" staff list if needs be? Can it be edited?
Actually, the staff lists are called "Staff List 1" thru "Staff List 4",
and you can't change the names. You can, however, edit their staff
assignments to your heart's content
Robert Patterson wrote
> Now, about those Staff Lists. MM made a mess of Staff Lists with a
copying bug they introduced in Fin08, and (apparently) to punish us for
their mistake, they have limited us to exactly 4 Staff Lists in Fin09,
no more, no less. That's usually about all I need: All Stav
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 25.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote:
bugger. A real bugger. Damn it.
Wie sacht man das auf Deutch? Jetzt lerne ich Deutch und das ist so
expressiv. LOL
Verdammt nochmal. Or, as my step-son says, "Verdampft nochmal"
(translates as "gone up in steam")
Hahaha!
On 25.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote:
bugger. A real bugger. Damn it.
Wie sacht man das auf Deutch? Jetzt lerne ich Deutch und das ist so expressiv.
LOL
Verdammt nochmal. Or, as my step-son says, "Verdampft nochmal"
(translates as "gone up in steam")
Johannes
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On 25.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote:
Absolutely you can use them for that. Actually, I believe staff lists work the
same for repeats as always. It's only for expressions that they have changed.
You can use exactly 4 different staff lists with expressions. If you want more
than that, you are o
Well, the tempo indication is what I mean, ie "Allegro".
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On 25 Jul 2008 at 15:29, David W. Fenton wrote:
> Can you place an expression in one location and have it take effect
> somewhere else *without* needing to define that other location in
> EVPUs?
That should be "EDUs" instead. I've always found the fact that I have
any need whatsoever to use t
If I understand the question, the answer is yes. It isn't fussy at all.
David W. Fenton wrote:
Can you place an expression in one location and have it take effect
somewhere else *without* needing to define that other location in
EVPUs?
I very often enter things exactly as the appear in my s
On 25 Jul 2008 at 8:51, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Here is one of the really good new things: MM has eliminated the need
> for all those assignment dialogs. Now you select an expression from the
> dialog, and it knows how to assign itself. But if you are in the
> situation of multiple notes coin
Robert Patterson wrote:
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
bugger. A real bugger. Damn it.
Wie sacht man das auf Deutch? Jetzt lerne ich Deutch und das ist so
expressiv. LOL
In Dutch it is "verdomd" or verdomme".
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Johannes Gebauer wrote:
bugger. A real bugger. Damn it.
Wie sacht man das auf Deutch? Jetzt lerne ich Deutch und das ist so
expressiv. LOL
Well, I use staff lists for
- movement titles
- Da Capos and Fines
- Repeat brackets.
Absolutely you can use them for that. Actually, I believe st
On 25.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote:
I seem to recall you use mirrors. If so, I do not believe you will be able to
mirror expression assignments.
bugger. A real bugger. Damn it. Mirrors used to be extremely useful
especially when working on pre-1780 orchestral scores with lot of
doublings. P
Now we are arguing semantics, but in this case somewhat important
semantics. "Miscellaneous" is a category that is not a category. It has
no category-level settings and you can't clone it. "Miscellaneous" is
just the word MM chose for "no category". It is the null category.
I mention this only
Robert,
I failed to indicate a healthy dose of facetiousness in that earlier post! ;-)
Jim W.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert Patterson
Sent: Fri 25-Jul-08 12:11
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09
Williams, Jim wrote
Williams, Jim wrote:
Robert, couldn't you/can you exercise some influence over this with MM?
It is to laugh, to think this current MM bunch listens to me for setting
priorities.
Let's hope for a revision in 2k9a.
Considering they could have done this at any time since the maintenance
re
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert Patterson
Sent: Fri 25-Jul-08 11:28
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Some comments re Fin09
Fortunately most 3rd-party plugins do not have this limitation, and in
my experience (with 1 or 2 exceptions) they are the best one to use
anyw
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Can you tell us the consequences?
I'm not sure what consequences you are looking for besides those I
already listed. The primary consequence is poor upgrades of existing work.
I seem to recall you use mirrors. If so, I do not believe you will be
able to mirror expre
Fortunately most 3rd-party plugins do not have this limitation, and in
my experience (with 1 or 2 exceptions) they are the best one to use
anyway. The stupid thing is that the change to fix this problem is a
1-line change plus a recompile.
Williams, Jim wrote:
WHAT DO I MISS??? That's easy.
On 25.07.2008 Williams, Jim wrote:
WHAT DO I MISS??? That's easy...ABILITY TO RUN PLUGINS ON LINKED PARTS!!
Ah, that brings up a question: Does collision remover work on parts now?
Johannes
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At 09:51 AM 7/25/2008, Robert Patterson wrote:
>Here is the next really good thing. Expressions can now be placed in
>categories, and every expression in that category can have the same
>settings.
I'd like to clarify these points in Robert's excellent post.
Expressions now *must* belong to a cat
On 25.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote:
This seems really plausible until you start thinking about layers, grace notes,
v1/v2, and even tuplets of 0-length. All of these mean that an unlimited number
of notes can coincide at the same beat location.
Can you tell us the consequences?
Personally
Robert is certainly spot-on in his comments, and please allow me to add a few
points from the playback and miscellaneous areas.
*Finalescript 2.0 is better than ever. If you are not an FS user, you ought to
be, since it can automate a large number of nuisance repetitive activities.
Older versi
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