Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread "D. Höhn"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 David R. Morrison wrote: | Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | |>I think we will have to restart the old discussion of /sw/Applications, |>too. And I mean a real discussion, not the hasty erection of religious |>taboos as we had in the p

Re: [Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-25 Thread Peter O'Gorman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Macks wrote: | In implementing variants, I'm doing some percent expansions on Package | using %things that may not be known to previous fink. That means (I | think) that if a user selfupdates while running an older fink and | there are variant-i

[Fink-devel] Incompatible .info files

2004-01-25 Thread Daniel Macks
In implementing variants, I'm doing some percent expansions on Package using %things that may not be known to previous fink. That means (I think) that if a user selfupdates while running an older fink and there are variant-ish .info files, his fink is gonna croak when it tries to index (he's still

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi, I'm the findutils maintainer. 'find -ls' (and in fact most of the size-related bits of find) is broken in older versions of findutils. Newer versions, including 4.1.20 in unstable, work fine for me. I'm seeing exactly the same output from '/usr/bin/find . -ls' and '/sw/bin/find . -ls'. If

[Fink-devel] gnuplot history -- doesn't detect readline

2004-01-25 Thread Joe Corneli
gnuplot> history warning: history command requires some form of readline support fink list readline Information about 2434 packages read in 2 seconds. i readline 4.3-25 Comfortable terminal input library i readline-shlibs4.3-25 Comfortable t

[Fink-devel] Re: can't self-update right now?

2004-01-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Randal> And it's a different number after ".VERSION" every time. Ahh, the problem seemed to be that /sw/fink was owned by root, not merlyn. Not sure how it got that way, but what an odd way to tell me. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - S

[Fink-devel] can't self-update right now?

2004-01-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Is this a known problem? 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text/ 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/ 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/web/ 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/ 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-system/ 10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-wm/ mkstemp .VERSION.jHX5d7 failed: P

Re: [Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-25 Thread James Gibbs
On Jan 25, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Pierre Mazoyer wrote: The software I am trying to port is bsvc (a Motorola 68000 simulator & assembler). I managed to patch and compile it and I have also started to write .info and .patch files. Another question is about documentation. Is "DocFiles:" sufficient t

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Benjamin Reed
David R. Morrison wrote: I agree with Martin: if we need to extend the FHS, we should do it in parallel to the way Apple did it. So we should use /sw/Library/Frameworks or /sw/System/Library/Frameworks, probably the former. (I don't understand the distinction between /System/Library/Frameworks a

.app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 25 04:24:05 2004 From: Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Neeracher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj

Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 25, 2004, at 4:59 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: OK, I suppose this is going to be controversial. Any discussion? Fine by me, as long as we stick to open source applications ONLY. The objection about 'moving apps around' never did make sense to me, i think a more important objection i

.app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we will have to restart the old discussion of /sw/Applications, > too. And I mean a real discussion, not the hasty erection of religious > taboos as we had in the past. I would really love to see things like > Tcl/Tk-aqua and rangerrick's KDE

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread David R. Morrison
Matthias Neeracher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > However, the package installs a framework, for which I think we don't > currently have a precedent. So my questions are: > > - Do y'all agree that frameworks are, in principle, fink packageable > matter? > - Where should frameworks be inst

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Michèle Garoche wrote: [] From the find manpage: -ls The format is identical to that produced by ls -dgils. Unfortunately, the output is not. I'm on unstable 10.3 and the output is the same with ls -dgils and find, not findutils (never been satisfied with it to say the truth). I am pretty

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le 25 janv. 2004, à 8:51, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : find . -name mbox -ls 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 ./.mbox/mbox 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 ./Deleted\ Messages.mbox/mbox From the find manpage: -ls Th

[Fink-devel] cssed ported to fink

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
I've just submitted a new package to fink: cssed, a css2 editor with validation for 10.3 unstable. It works fine on my computer with X11, but as I have no spare machine with 10.3.2 to check that there are no missing packages, could someone test it from the tracker so that eventually I add tho

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Pascal J . Bourguignon
Randal L. Schwartz writes: > some of them are not 0. I suspect the ones that are 0 really are 0. Yes, the ones that are 0 in ls are really 0. But even the ones that are not 0 in ls are 0 in find -ls, that's the problem. (Of course, you are aware that these files are stored on a HFS+ file

Re: [Fink-devel] bootstrap process

2004-01-25 Thread Likai Liu
Unfortunately Solaris' mv is too brain dead such that it won't work unless I use another mv. Actually, more fiddling reveals that fink probably needs to be rewritten to port to another platform at all (and I'm not going to advocate this, at least not on fink's own mailing list :-] ). There is

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Pascal J . Bourguignon
Michèle Garoche writes: > > Le 23 janv. 2004, à 1:49, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : > > find . -name mbox -ls > > 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 > > ./.mbox/mbox > > 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 > > ./Deleted\ Messa

Re: [Fink-devel] splitoff question

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Koen van der Drift wrote: Hi, When creating a splitoff package, am I limited to foo-dev, foo-shlibs, and foo-bin? Or can I create other ones as well (in my case it would be called foo-scripting). Or would it be better to just create a separate package for that, that depends on foo? IMHO the cr

[Fink-devel] splitoff question

2004-01-25 Thread Koen van der Drift
Hi, When creating a splitoff package, am I limited to foo-dev, foo-shlibs, and foo-bin? Or can I create other ones as well (in my case it would be called foo-scripting). Or would it be better to just create a separate package for that, that depends on foo? thanks, - Koen. -

Re: [Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Pierre Mazoyer wrote: I had also to change some settings in the common makefile, but I am not sure how to do this. The best way to learn this is still by example: Look at other info files. SetPROJECT_BASE: %b SetFOO only works for some specific variables, see the packaging reference guide http

[Fink-devel] Questions about .info file

2004-01-25 Thread Pierre Mazoyer
Thank you to all the people who answered me about creating a .patch file. I would enjoy to help the community by porting some software; but now I am still learning ;-) The software I am trying to port is bsvc (a Motorola 68000 simulator & assembler). I managed to patch and compile it and I hav

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 23 janv. 2004, à 1:49, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : find . -name mbox -ls 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 ./.mbox/mbox 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 ./Deleted\ Messages.mbox/mbox From th

Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Martin Costabel
Matthias Neeracher wrote: - Do y'all agree that frameworks are, in principle, fink packageable matter? - Where should frameworks be installed? /sw/lib/Frameworks ? /sw/lib/frameworks ? /sw/Frameworks? /sw/frameworks? /sw/lib/sw? My vote goes for a new directory /sw/Library and /sw/Library/Framew

[Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages

2004-01-25 Thread Matthias Neeracher
Hi all, I'm thinking of creating a fink package for RubyCocoa (), a cocoa wrapper package for ruby, similar to what CamelBones does for Perl. It seems an appropriate subject for packaging to me because it: - Will depend on another fink package (ruby18) and no

Re: [Fink-devel] find . -ls gets zero sizes!

2004-01-25 Thread Michèle Garoche
Le 23 janv. 2004, à 1:49, Pascal J.Bourguignon a écrit : find . -name mbox -ls 66892600 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 23 01:45 ./.mbox/mbox 66883790 -rw--- 1 pascal staff 0 Jan 14 10:36 ./Deleted\ Messages.mbox/mbox From the find manpage: -ls The