[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2-gcc3.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/perlmods berkeleydb-pm560.info,1.3,1.3.2.1 berkeleydb-pm561.info,1.1,1.1.2.1 berkeleydb-pm580.info,1.3,1.3.2.1 berkeleydb-pm581.info,1.1,1.1.2.1

2003-12-16 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi Dan. I'd just like to mention, in connection with your demo, that I do not plan to move perl 5.6.1 into the 10.3 tree. In fact, there is only a single -pm561 package in the 10.2 or 10.2-gcc3.3 trees. The versions which will be relevant going forward are -pm560, -pm580, -pm581 (and someday, -p

Re: [Fink-devel] Bad news from the freetype2 front

2003-12-15 Thread David R. Morrison
Ah, I had another idea. We could create a freetype213 package which would do all its installs in a non-standard location. You'd have to mess with the link lines to make sure that scribus finds freetype213 and its headers, rather than the one in /usr/X11R6, but that should be possible. -- Dave

Re: [Fink-devel] Bad news from the freetype2 front

2003-12-15 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin, Have you tried statically linking freetype2 into scribus? -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE

[Fink-devel] reminder about freetype2 changes

2003-12-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi. Just a reminder that when you modify a package so that it no longer depends on fink's freetype2 package but uses "apple's" freetype2 instead, you need to replace the freetype2, freetype2-shlibs dependencies by x11 and x11-shlibs dependencies. freetype2 is indeed shipped by Apple, but only in

[Fink-devel] reminder about freetype2 changes

2003-12-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi. Just a reminder that when you modify a package so that it no longer depends on fink's freetype2 package but uses "apple's" freetype2 instead, you need to replace the freetype2, freetype2-shlibs dependencies by x11 and x11-shlibs dependencies. freetype2 is indeed shipped by Apple, but only in

Re: [Fink-devel] Bad news from the freetype2 front

2003-12-13 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David R. Morrison wrote: > > > Martin, please try imagemagick-5.5.1-23 (now in 10.3/stable). I've hacked > > around the "poll" problem, and "display" seems to work OK. > > Yes, it works,

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text scribus-1.0.1-22.info,NONE,1.1 scribus-1.0.1-22.info~,NONE,1.1 scribus-1.0.1-22.patch,NONE,1.1 scribus.info,1.7,1.8

2003-12-13 Thread David R. Morrison
Sorry, I read fink-commits before fink-devel this morning... -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and

[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text scribus-1.0.1-22.info,NONE,1.1 scribus-1.0.1-22.info~,NONE,1.1 scribus-1.0.1-22.patch,NONE,1.1 scribus.info,1.7,1.8

2003-12-13 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text > In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv3792 > > Modified Files: > scribus.info > Added Files: > scribus-1.0.1-22.info scribus-1.0.1-22.info~ > scribus-1.0.1-22.patch >

Re: [Fink-devel] New GTK breaks Ethereal

2003-12-12 Thread David R. Morrison
Looks like the updates I've been making to gtk+ and other packages inadvertantly caused this. Working on a fix... -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11 qt2-g++2.info,NONE,1.1 qt2-g++2.patch,NONE,1.1

2003-12-12 Thread David R. Morrison
Could be that since we've never documented the virtual gcc2 package, Jeff didn't know it was there... -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you

[Fink-devel] The perl modules situation

2003-12-11 Thread David R. Morrison
Ben Hines has again raised the issue of how we handle perl modules which are provided by newer versions of perl, but were not provided by older versions of perl. This has been brought up before by JF Mertens. Each release of perl incorporates some new perl modules into the release, and in additio

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2/stable/main/finkinfo/libs popt-1.7-1.info,1.3,1.4

2003-12-11 Thread David R. Morrison
The reason that I started trying to enforce BuildDependsOnly is to try to get our automatic Shared Libraries system (the shlibs project) working. Any package containing headers and un-numbered dylib files should be labeled BuildDependsOnly: True. As a consequence, you can't put any files into tha

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.459,1.460 Validation.pm,1.71,1.72

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
OK, I corrected my error, restored some accidentally wiped out changes, and in particular put buildconflicts back into Validation.pm. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be mor

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.459,1.460 Validation.pm,1.71,1.72

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why was buildconflicts removed? > --- > TS Sorry, that was an accident; looks like I started from an old version of Validation.pm by mistake. I"ll fix it. On the other hand, the point of the exercise was to make sure that everything in Validation.pm is in the

[Fink-devel] documentation updates

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Folks, we need a few updates in the packaging manual. Section 5.4 on scripts is out of date; could somebody who is familiar with the current script rules please revise it? (just send the text here if you don't know how do the xml edits) Also, I detected some amiguities between Validation.pm and

Re: [Fink-devel] release coming

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
If I understand your message correctly, you do not believe that we are ready for a release. Please let me know when we are ready. -- Dave TheSin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think a few features should be held out Dave > > since we are still discussing on fink splitoffs and fink showpare

Re: [Fink-devel] "Trees" not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin: It will work if you move local/main to be the last item in your Trees line in fink.conf. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you crea

[Fink-devel] release coming

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
I plan to release a new version of the package manager, fink-0.18.0, in a day or two. If you are aware of any bugs in CVS HEAD, please fix them (or report them) now. If you are planning to add new features to CVS HEAD, please wait until after the release. -- Dave

Re: I am giving this 24 hours -> (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread David R. Morrison
I screamed and complained before, and I'll do it again. You can't and shouldn't remove things. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create

Re: [Fink-devel] new fink commands

2003-12-08 Thread David R. Morrison
But let's not call it the "fink-dev" package... that's where I would expect to find fink.h ! -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create be

Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?

2003-12-08 Thread David R. Morrison
You do know that nothing can actually be removed from CVS, right? -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE,

Re: [Fink-devel] Hello Fink Project

2003-12-08 Thread David R. Morrison
Great to have you hear, Sao. Welcome. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Cli

Re: [Fink-devel] Idea: "LangVersion" field in .info

2003-12-08 Thread David R. Morrison
Dan, When I expanded "Type: perl" to allow "Type: perl 5.x.y" back in June, I stuck the version number into the same field because I was getting flack about unnecessarily increasing the number of fields. However, in wedging it in there I did some less-than-pretty things to the code! One thing w

Re: [Fink-devel] new symlink in fink?

2003-12-05 Thread David R. Morrison
if I understood your suggestion correctly...) -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > >>>>> "David" == David R Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > David> My symlink strategy would only apply to non-XS modules. For XS modules,

Re: [Fink-devel] new symlink in fink?

2003-12-05 Thread David R. Morrison
esn't explicitly require a more recent version of perl than the one you have installed...) -- Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: > >>>>> "David" == David R Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > David> My idea for addressing this

[Fink-devel] new symlink in fink?

2003-12-05 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink folks, The following idea has been discussed a few time in IRC; I wanted to bring it to the mailing list for comment before implementing it. The version of perl which ships with 10.3 was built with a different architecture flag than previous perls on OS X. Whereas the architecture flag

[Fink-devel] 10.2 packages

2003-12-05 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink developers, There are only 36 packages* left in the 10.2/unstable tree which have not yet been moved to 10.2-gcc3.3. They are listed below, sorted by maintainer. In each case, either the source is no longer available, or I have been unable to compile the package using the gcc 3.3 devel

Re: [Fink-devel] test suite now implemented

2003-12-04 Thread David R. Morrison
Sure. The change which Max is suggesting only affects running the test suite while fink is being bootstrapped, and also during the first time the user upgrades to fink-0.18.0 (or whatever release this code becomes part of). After that, the test suite will be run each time the user installs fink.

[Fink-devel] test suite now implemented

2003-12-04 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink-devel, I've added code which causes the fink test suite to be run every time you bootstrap or inject fink. This required the introduction of three new essential packages in the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree and earlier: file-spec-pm, test-simple-pm, and test-harness-pm. Please let me know if you en

Re: [Fink-devel] test suite now implemented

2003-12-04 Thread David R. Morrison
I agree that making these packages essential is not a great solution. In fact, if we make the test code conditional on the presence of the Test:: stuff, then we can just add these packages to the bootstrap when needed (like with storable-pm560). Thanks for the suggestion, Max, I'll look into modif

Re: [Fink-devel] test suite now implemented

2003-12-04 Thread David R. Morrison
P.S. If you are running on 10.2, you should install test-simple-pm by hand before updating fink from CVS HEAD. The "essential" versions of the new packages are present during the bootstrap, but haven't yet been added to the unstable trees. ---

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.446,1.447 Engine.pm,1.119,1.120

2003-12-03 Thread David R. Morrison
The dependency engine is *very* tricky about this point. At several places in the code, there are special cases to deal with this, and if I try to modify them, I break things. However, I am quite certain that bzip2-dev does not get treated as an essential package. -- Dave ---

[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.446,1.447 Engine.pm,1.119,1.120

2003-12-03 Thread David R. Morrison
"Justin F. Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /cvsroot/fink/fink/perlmod/Fink In directory > sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv27242 > > Modified Files: > ChangeLog Engine.pm > Log Message: > Added warning messages for essentials and non installed pkgs > > Index: ChangeLog > =

Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-25 Thread David R. Morrison
OK, on 10.3 (where I haven't tested before) I can report that the earlier failures aren't occurring, presumably because you fixed them. There is another problem, though: I can't run "make test" at all unless I first edit the Makefile to change $$PWD to $PWD. Will try on 10.2 next. -- Dave --

Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-25 Thread David R. Morrison
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Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-25 Thread David R. Morrison
My umask is 077 and my t/ is at 700. Files/directories within it are at 600/700. I'll try the latest version after I reboot back to 10.2. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you

[Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-24 Thread David R. Morrison
Tonight was my first opportunity to try "make test" again since the work that was done on it last week. Unfortunately, it failed for me again. Not sure if its still relevant, but "nobody" is UID -2 and "unknown" is UID 99 on my system. (By the way, /etc/passwd is not the correct place to look fo

[Fink-devel] Re: web/pdb search.php,1.3,1.4

2003-11-24 Thread David R. Morrison
The pdb is not working now, and I have to suspect that this might have been caused by dmalloc's changes to the web pages last night, since it worked OK yesterday. Some of the searches I try work OK, but others (like "tetex" or "xfree86") aren't working. Anybody have a clue about what the cause co

Re: [Fink-devel] Change to the Web-site navigation

2003-11-24 Thread David R. Morrison
I have one concern about the web content at finkmirrors.net . Everything else in fink, including our entire website, it stored in CVS in one form or another. There are lots of good advantages to that, including an easy way to back up all of fink, and shared management of all of fink. Could we pu

Re: [Fink-devel] CURRENT-FINK = 0.5.4 ?

2003-11-22 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi Martin. I changed the fink package manager to look at CURRENT-FINK-$distribution instead of CURRENT-FINK (where $distribution is 10.2, 10.2-gcc3.3, or 10.3). I then created the 0.5.4 distribution with an update to the package manager which contains that new code. Therefore, what is supposed to

Re: [Fink-devel] libmikmod-3.1.10-2

2003-11-21 Thread David R. Morrison
You need to download this using the "master mirrors" option, since the package checksum didn't match. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you

Re: [Fink-devel] Failed make test

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
And by the way, apparently the reason you're not seeing the other errors I saw (and reported here today, albeit belatedly), is that you ran "make test" as an ordinary user and the dubious tests were skipped, whereas I ran "sudo make test" (thus mimicking the behavior of fink when it installs the f

Re: [Fink-devel] Failed make test

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
Well, this one is easy to understand, but I'm not sure how to fix it. In the "fink" CVS module, we have a file perlmod/Fink/FinkVersion.pm.in . That is processed with some sed magic in the setup.sh script. So naturally, there is a "compile failure" when FinkVersion.pm is invoked. -- Dave Da

Re: [Fink-devel] Phasing out references to Mac OS X 10.1 (Doc Maintainers?)

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
I disagree. As far as I know, our 10.1 distribution still works. Anyone who bought a Mac or a copy of OS X prior to September 2002 and who did not choose to pay for an upgrade will still be running 10.1. We can de-emphasize it, sure, but it is already de-emphasized. -- Dave

[Fink-devel] "make test" failure report (run on CVS HEAD, just now)

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
./00compile.ok ./Base/initialize...ok ./Base/paramok ./Base/param_booleanok ./Command/cat...ok ./Command/chowname..ok ./Command/commands..ok ./Command/exports...ok ./Command/failure...# Failed test (./Co

Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
> Run "perl -MTest::Harness -wle 'print $Test::Harness::VERSION'" and let me > know what it says. 2.26 > If its less than 2.00 then you have a shadowing > problem. Check "perldoc -l Test::Harness" to find out what file Perl is > loading for Test::Harness. /sw/lib/perl5/Test/Harness.pm -- D

Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
> To fix, try reinstalling Test::Harness from > http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-Harness/ and use "make install UNINST=1" > to make sure the old version is deleted. This is not The Fink Way (TM). :) We need robust fink packages for 5.6.0 which install the Test:: code in whatever way its going to

Re: [Fink-devel] Don't disable tests. Report the failure. (was Re: fink ChangeLog,1.181,1.182 Makefile,1.4,1.5)

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
I completely agree that tests should not be disabled. On the other hand, very few of the fink developers have any experience with any of the perl testing stuff. This makes it hard to even know how to report a failure. My saga yesterday evening started when -- in the interests of trying out someb

Re: [Fink-devel] "WARNING: Unable to parse ..." after upgrade

2003-11-20 Thread David R. Morrison
Ben Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really fink should not be calling 'rsync'. It should be using > /usr/bin/rsync in any case, just like every single other external call > in fink does. I see no reason to deviate and trust whatever program a > user has that might be called rsync. > > -Ben

Re: [Fink-devel] -release to -version-info conversion

2003-11-19 Thread David R. Morrison
Justin, that section of the fink docs was added 10 months ago by dmalloc. I don't remember what discussion might have preceded that, but I certainly strongly disagree with the implication which is made there. We definitely should not be changing the versioning that is being used by the upstream ma

Re: [Fink-devel] no system-xfree86-* in the 10.3 tree??

2003-11-18 Thread David R. Morrison
The -dev will show up once fink-0.17.1 is released, RSN. -- Dave --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMyPC is the fast, easy and secure way to access your computer from any Web browser or wireless device. Click here to Try it

Re: [Fink-devel] Status of 10.2 tree

2003-11-18 Thread David R. Morrison
There are still some packages, maybe 100-200, which haven't yet made it from the 10.2 tree to the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree. As soon as they are moved, we'll stop officially supporting the old 10.2 tree, and we'll explicitly announce this to users. However, for all practical purposes, that support is over

Re: Selfupdate-rsync is broken (Was Re: [Fink-devel] "WARNING: Unable to parse ..." after upgrade)

2003-11-16 Thread David R. Morrison
Max Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah! > > To quote http://rsync.samba.org/: > > NEWS for rsync version 2.5.6, aka the dwd-between-jobs release > Changes since version 2.5.5: > >ENHANCEMENTS: > > * The --delete-after option now implies --delete. (Wayne Davison) > > [...] > > >

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.3,1.4

2003-11-16 Thread David R. Morrison
Actually, in the mean while Ben added some stuff to the Makefile. You can now use "make install" to run ./inject.pl, so a reasonable new way to work is "make test; make install". -- Dave --- This SF. Net email is sponsored by: GoToMyPC GoToMy

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/t/PkgVersion get_perl.t,1.3,1.4

2003-11-16 Thread David R. Morrison
Let me jump in here, since it was my change that caused the trouble. First of all, the history of this code snippet is that I wrote it back in June to implement one aspect of the then-new "Type: perl 5.x.y" declaration. In the past month, a few changes were made to it (by other people): it was

Re: [Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Just to clarify one thing about fink's setup. We store all XS modules in versioned subdirectories of /sw/lib/perl5. The modules which are stored directly in /sw/lib/perl5 are the non-XS modules, which should work the same across all perl versions. (This wasn't always true, but we had a big cleanu

Re: [Fink-devel] vim-nox binary from Fink 0.6.1 dependency problem

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
> Is libqt-mt from qt3-shlibs still linked with the xfree-86-4.2.1 > libfreetype? This would still break it for Panther users and force them > to recompile qt3 themselves. I rebuilt 0.6.2 from scratch, using the identical source files as in 0.6.1 (except for updates to fink, fink-prebinding, apt

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: UpdatePOD

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear Justin and Jean-Francois, I updated the perl-module handling code in CVS last night. I hope that this fixes all remaining problems with UpdatePOD. (Actually, it should be fixed even without the changes Justin made, which I might revert at some point since they complicate things a bit. But

Re: [Fink-devel] trailing slashes

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
> There is a theory now that this comes from the Fink fileutils package, > although I don't see how it can, since you were using /bin/mv. To echo this concern: I experienced the "mv" bug last night on a package. I removed fileutils and rebuilt the package. It still failed due to the "mv" bug, eve

Re: [Fink-devel] vim-nox binary from Fink 0.6.1 dependency problem

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin, I'm sorry to say that 0.6.2 binaries are, in almost every case, identical to 0.6.1 with one important exception: the files are now owned by root rather than by UID 2011. (The incorrect ownership arose from a "feature" of hfs+ which was unknown to me: it turns out that a non-root hfs+ volu

[Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread David R. Morrison
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 08:21:06PM -0800, David R. Morrison wrote: > > Log Message: > > Revise get_perl_dir_arch() and the places where it is used, correcting some > > errors in UpdatePOD in case of Type: perl, and gu

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: UpdatePOD

2003-11-13 Thread David R. Morrison
The perllocal.pod business was working perfectly before all the recent changes. I was quite careful to preserve the way it functioned when I modified the perl modules to include -pm560 etc, back in June. I'll take a look and see if it can be fixed now. We've had a number of recent changes to the

Re: [Fink-devel] sources.list hint on fink.sf.net

2003-11-13 Thread David R. Morrison
Thanks very much for pointing this out. The binary distribution is currently being updated, and I had missed one necessary step in the update process, which your message pointed out! As soon as the sourceforge mirrors catch up, you should be able to successfully complete the "apt-get update" oper

[Fink-devel] package manager release

2003-11-12 Thread David R. Morrison
I plan to release version 0.17.0 of the package manager from CVS HEAD around 24 hours from now. If there is any last-minute cleanup of recently added code that needs to be done, please do it now. Also, if anyone is aware of things in HEAD which are inappropriate for the next release, please let m

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: plea for more care

2003-11-12 Thread David R. Morrison
> We have no way of saying "if you build this while you still have the old > freetype2 installed that has headers, things will get seriously messed up." Seems to me the correct strategy there is a versioned BuildDepends on the (placeholder) freetype2 header package, which will cause the old one to

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: plea for more care

2003-11-12 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi Peter. If I understand correctly, any package which links to dlcompat will build differently under 10.2 and 10.3, regardless of what dependencies are specified. Both dlcompat and dlcompat-dev are placeholders in 10.3, are they not? So, since the package in question was already in 10.3, anyone

[Fink-devel] Re: plea for more care

2003-11-11 Thread David R. Morrison
Just a followup to my previous message. I've now noticed that the only change which was made to the package was to remove a BuildDepends on dlcompat, not a Depends. That shouldn't have required a change to the revsion number at all!!! -- Dave -

[Fink-devel] plea for more care

2003-11-11 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink developers, I've just spent 10 minutes chasing down the cause of a bug report I received from a user. Here's the cause: somebody edited one of my packages in 10.3/unstable, removing the dlcompat dependency and increasing the revision number by 10. Unfortunately they did not change the

Re: [Fink-devel] texinfo package version

2003-11-11 Thread David R. Morrison
> No, rather the texinfo package should be updated. This has been on my to-do list for a while. Recent versions of texinfo require recent versions of gettext. Since the newest gettext has a binary compatibility change from fink's gettext, we need a gettext2 package in order to update texinfo. T

Re: [Fink-devel] Depends Question

2003-11-10 Thread David R. Morrison
If A Depends on B, and B Depends on C, then you do not have to state a dependency of A on C since C will always be present when A is. However, if A BuildDepends on B and B BuildDepends on C, then you *cannot* assume that C is present when A is being built. (If B has never been built before then i

[Fink-devel] setsid error message

2003-11-03 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink-devel, I got the following message from a user who is running tetex on 10.3. The setsid error message is very mysterious. Does anybody have any idea what could cause this? Could it be related to the changes in default permissions in 10.3? (What's happening here is that xdvi calls /sw/

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Dependency of dpkg on perl580

2003-10-29 Thread David R. Morrison
> Shouldn't system-perl simply put in a /usr/bin/perl -> /sw/bin/perl symlink? > That seems much easier. Unfortunately, that runs contrary to fink's policy of not modifying /usr but confining itself to /sw (with the sole exception of a fink-installed xfree86). -- Dave

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Dependency of dpkg on perl580

2003-10-29 Thread David R. Morrison
Hi Jean-Francois. My guess is that what happens is this: the configure script for some package runs "which perl" and then uses the answer to decide what to write in the perl scripts for that package. dpkg must be one of the things affected by this. Since we don't have BuildConflicts implemented

[Fink-devel] New fink admin

2003-10-23 Thread David R. Morrison
We're pleased to announce that Peter O'Gorman has joined the Fink admin team, which still includes Max Horn, Ben Reed, and myself. We've also set up a mailing address with which you could reach the four of us, should you need to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Dave Morrison --

Re: [Fink-devel] polite prebinding

2003-10-22 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin, That warning would be more easily understood if it were worded differently. Instead of "prebinding not disabled because foo overlaps with bar" it should say "prebinding not disabled even though foo overlaps with bar". Normally, an overlap would cause the linker not to prebind, but we're te

Re: [Fink-devel] the 10.3 tree

2003-10-20 Thread David R. Morrison
> That would be pretty tough to do on 10.3 since most of the dependencies > aren't in the 10.3 tree yet. I'd have to move all them over. If you > want that help, you should move the working packages into the 10.3 tree > now. > > Anyway, waiting makes it too difficult for me to contribute, so I

[Fink-devel] the 10.3 tree

2003-10-20 Thread David R. Morrison
Here's an update on the current state of the 10.3 tree. Currently, the 10.3 tree has only a very few things in it. A few are "placeholder" packages which allow fink to use some new components of the system in 10.3 which were not present in 10.2. Others are 10.3-specific revisions of packages. I

[Fink-devel] Code freeze

2003-10-19 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink developers, The code freeze on the 10.2-gcc3.3/stable tree is now in effect. You are free to modify other trees, and in particular, there is still work to be done on the 10.2-gcc3.3/unstable tree. I'll announce here when the code freeze is lifted. -- Dave -

[Fink-devel] code freeze coming

2003-10-18 Thread David R. Morrison
I'll be declaring a code freeze on the 10.2-gcc3.3/stable tree in the near future, probably beginning between 12 and 24 hours from now. Once the code freeze is in effect, if you have important changes to make to the stable tree it may be possible, but please funnel all such change requests through

Re: [Fink-devel] BuildDepends problem with fink > 0.14

2003-10-15 Thread David R. Morrison
> I have a problem with BuildDepends since using fink 0.14.X. I have two > packages A and B. > Package A does not Depend/BuildDepend on B, but B has both a Depend and > BuildDepend on A. If I do 'fink build A B' (neither A nor B is > installed), it builds first package A and creates the deb file

Re: [Fink-devel] [Cross-Post] The Future of the Fink Website - Infrastructure RoadMap

2003-10-14 Thread David R. Morrison
I'd like to point out one feature of the current website which may not be obvious. A single xml file, which creates website content, is used to produce three types of output: (1) the structured php which we use on the website (2) "monolithic" html files, less flexible, but which we distribute on t

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Fink-devel digest, Vol 1 #1188 - 12 msgs

2003-10-12 Thread David R. Morrison
Our goal is to switch Fink to Panther on October 24 or very shortly thereafter. We've been planning the necessary changes, and working to implement them, for months. We still have a lot to do, and are likely to miss the release date. As Ben said, we'll consider other major changes after we're do

[Fink-devel] Re: dpkg-1.10.9-14 problem (10.2-gcc3.3)

2003-10-11 Thread David R. Morrison
Martin, If I uncomment that line, fink gives a circular dependency error. As is often the case with those errors, I've been unable to track down why. Bootstrapping from 0.14.0 should work OK. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread David R. Morrison
I have to disagree about the timing of when root is supposed to be invoked. I issue a command to build a package which will take an hour... I come back two hours later, only to find that it's been waiting for the past hour for me to enter my password? Not a good user experience. That's why Fink

Re: [Fink-devel] fink run *not* as root

2003-10-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Sure, here's some feedback. First, let's examine where root is actually needed in fink. We certainly don't need to be root to run "make" on a package. Since fink directs "make install" to a temporary installation directory, we don't need to be root to run that either. The tricky thing, though,

Re: [Fink-devel] rsync updating and server subversion (svn) package

2003-10-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Do you have unstable/crypto and unstable/main in the Trees line in /sw/etc/fink.conf ? The new rsync method only updates the trees which are mentioned in your conf file. -- Dave --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program

[Fink-devel] reports on 0.14.0 ?

2003-10-09 Thread David R. Morrison
Does anybody have any feedback on fink 0.14.0? I'd like to move it to stable soon, so that we can announce the rsync update method as the preferred method for all users. (Anonymous CVS at sourceforge has become unresponsive AGAIN...) Thanks, Dave ---

[Fink-devel] test_10_3 branch closed

2003-10-08 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink-devel, With the recent release of fink-0.14.0 and fink-0.14.1-beta, I slightly switched strategies with respect to the various branches in CVS. I merged the old test_10_3 branch back into HEAD at that time. Please don't make any new commits to that branch. Instead, what I intend to do

Re: [Fink-devel] XDarwin broken on 10.2-gcc3.3?

2003-10-08 Thread David R. Morrison
Koen, did you recompile xfree86 after the update? -- Dave --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Fink-devel] fort77 can't be compiled.

2003-10-02 Thread David R. Morrison
clisp-2.29 is also available from fink in binary form. The binary was compiled with gcc 3.1. -- Dave --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [Fink-devel] gcc_select 3

2003-10-02 Thread David R. Morrison
We're still in the process of upgrading packages to be ready for gcc 3.3. The "enforcement" of the fink declaration "GCC: 3.1" was not done in the past, but is now being done with the recent upgrade. Your best strategy if you are using panther is to make sure that the dists symlink points to 10.2-

[Fink-devel] what's missing in 10.2-gcc3.3/stable

2003-10-01 Thread David R. Morrison
Here's a list of what's currently missing from 10.2-gcc3.3/stable, and a discussion of some of the reasons. First, KDE has not yet been moved to 10.2-gcc3.3, but no problems are anticipated. Second, fort77 does not compile under gcc 3.3, probably due to problems with f2c (which probably needs so

[Fink-devel] rsync vs. cvs

2003-10-01 Thread David R. Morrison
Hello again folks. Rob Braun has written a patch which lets us do selfupdates via rsync rather than cvs, and the opendarwin server is currently hosting a mirror of our cvs content which can be rsync'd. The simplest thing to do is to simply add this as an alternative method. But we were just discu

[Fink-devel] gcc3.3 tree open for business

2003-10-01 Thread David R. Morrison
Dear fink-devel, The code freeze for the 10.2/stable tree is hereby lifted. However, I would like to ask all fink developers to try and keep 10.2-gcc3.3/stable in sync with (or ahead of) 10.2/stable. I hope that the conversion to the new trees will be complete within a few weeks. All fink devel

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink vs. Panther (apt failure)

2003-09-30 Thread David R. Morrison
If you are going to follow Ben's advice and bootstrap, you should probably checkout the "test_10_3" branch from CVS rather than CVS HEAD. -- Dave --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [Fink-devel] fort77 can't be compiled.

2003-09-29 Thread David R. Morrison
I suppose you are using the updated Developer Tools? There is a problem with fort77 and the new tools. As it says on Fink's homepage, users are advised not to update their developer tools, or if they do, to be sure and run "sudo gcc_select 3" before using fink to compile packages. The problem wi

Re: [Fink-devel] Testing A New Package

2003-09-27 Thread David R. Morrison
Put your package into /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo and fink should find it there. (If not, check the Trees line in /sw/etc/fink.conf to make sure that "local/main" is listed there.) Also, you might need to fun "fink index" if fink doesn't seem to find the package after you move it into pl

[Fink-devel] 10.2-gcc3.3

2003-09-22 Thread David R. Morrison
The 10.2-gcc3.3/stable tree is coming along nicely, and I hope to declare "phase one" of this migration to be finished within a few days. To this end, I would like to declare a code freeze on 10.2/stable, effective immediately. To make sure that 10.2/stable and 10.2-gcc3.3/stable are as close to

Re: [Fink-devel] Non-root builds?

2003-09-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Greg Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 Jerry Talkington wrote: > > > Unfortunately there doesn't seem to any desire among the maintainers to > > make fink a more user mode environment, which is a big mistake, IMHO. > > An application shouldn't request root privileges until abs

Re: [Fink-devel] Problems building fink package for mod_dav_svn

2003-09-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Well, it's still relinking. Why does it list as libtool SH_LIBTOOL='/sw/share/apr-0/build/libtool' That sounds like something already installed, perhaps by the previous build? If it wants to be using a customized one, it should be looking in the build directory, no? -- Dave ---

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