Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header

2022-08-24 Thread Tommi Prami
I’ll investigate that later. Thanks. -Tee- From: James Starkey Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 4:16 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header Of course there should. The ODS was designed with extensibility in mind, so the init

Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header

2022-08-24 Thread Tommi Prami
same to use our own utility, gstat needs client libraries as well as our own, so we do not gain anything. Thanks for info. -Tee- -Original Message- From: Tommi Prami Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 10:21 AM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel]

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 08:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > > I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: > Here is my updated proposal based on the discussion so far: Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.exe Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-windows-x86-withDebugSymbols.zip Fireb

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 09:32, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: > On 8/24/22 15:03, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: >>> On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: >>> [..] It's dif

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 12:04, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: >> >> The Linux builds are not complete builds compared to Windows pdb >> builds (e.g. config files, documentation, security database, etc are >> missing) >> > > Yep, they contain only binaries with debug-info. > Linux "debuginfo" pack

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 12:33, Paul Reeves wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:04:20 +0200 > Mark Rotteveel wrote: > >> On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >>> Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form. >>> >>>

[Firebird-devel] Service errors returned by API (was: [FirebirdSQL/firebird] [FR] Database restore must make every effort on activating deferred indexes (Issue #7269))

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Alexander Peshkov wrote 24.08.2022 19:06: On 8/24/22 14:31, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > Without it services seem to be pretty useless. I think this to be suggested in devel and if nobody sees problems - feel free to add a ticket, I will implement it. Ok. But I don't think that a simple hack

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
>> How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? >> > > May be I've lost context - but we release linux builds with binaries > since the first days of the project. Sorry. I meant debug(info) builds with binaries. -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Fireb

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 19:33, Jiří Činčura wrote: How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? May be I've lost context - but we release linux builds with binaries since the first days of the project. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
How crazy idea it would be to have even Linux builds with binaries? -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Paul Reeves
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:04:20 +0200 Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > > Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: > >> If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current > >> form. > > > >   Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to ch

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 17:00: Sorry, but they are created by 'cp' command ;) One can run them directly. Wow. That's crazy. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 17:00, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:10, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided.   Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted debu

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:14, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 16:06, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its cur

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:10, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided.   Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted debug symbols, not binaries. Sorry, but they are created by 'c

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 16:06, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote: On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.    Yes, it is. That's why I

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote 24.08.2022 16:06: Same for linux - not stripped binaries provided. Nope. Firebird-debuginfo-4.0.2.2816-0.amd64.tar.gz contains only extracted debug symbols, not binaries. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sou

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 17:04, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.    Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. The Windows pdb packages are c

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 15:36, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form.   Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. The Windows pdb packages are complete builds though. So maybe those sh

Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header

2022-08-24 Thread James Starkey
Of course there should. The ODS was designed with extensibility in mind, so the initial part of the header page was sacrosanct (i.e. immutable). This was an essential part of the architecture for forward and backward compatibility. The Y-valve, by design, would pass a connection string to all av

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Mark Rotteveel wrote 24.08.2022 15:32: If the term is confusing or ambiguous, it already is so in its current form. Yes, it is. That's why I would suggest to change that. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-deve

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 14:50, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: Dmitry Yemanov wrote 24.08.2022 14:47: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed.   And better to keep "debuginfo" verb, IMHO to prevent confusion after expectation to find "a debug build" in "debug" package

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel
On 8/24/22 15:03, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: [..] It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware architectures are incons

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Dmitry Yemanov wrote 24.08.2022 14:47: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed. And better to keep "debuginfo" verb, IMHO to prevent confusion after expectation to find "a debug build" in "debug" package. -- WBR, SD. Firebird-Devel mailing list,

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Dmitry Yemanov
24.08.2022 15:35, Jiří Činčura wrote: I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Agreed. Dmitry Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Jiří Činčura
I would unify the `pdb`, `debuginfo`, etc. into simple `debug` suffix. Probably Alex can clarify, but it really the ARM32/64 for Linux? And if so, do we even need ARM32? -- Mgr. Jiří Činčura https://www.tabsoverspaces.com/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourcef

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 24/08/2022 08:59, Mark Rotteveel wrote: > On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: >> > [..] >> It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware >> architectures are inconsistent. >> >> I propose this name convention

Re: [Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Mark Rotteveel
On 24-08-2022 13:45, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: [..] It's difficult to understand, they do not mention OS and hardware architectures are inconsistent. I propose this name convention starting with Firebird 5: [..] Firebird-5.0.0.2816-0-linu

[Firebird-devel] Improve release filenames

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
Hi! This is our Firebird 4.0.2 released files: Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32-pdb.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32-pdb.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-Win32.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64-pdb.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64-pdb.zip Firebird-4.0.2.2816-0-x64.exe Firebird-4.0.2.2

Re: [Firebird-devel] Profiler plugin is not found. Windows snapshot Firebird-5.0.0.684-0-x64

2022-08-24 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 23/08/2022 07:53, Simonov Denis via Firebird-devel wrote: > 23.08.2022 13:38, Norbert Saint Georges пишет: >> Simonov Denis via Firebird-devel a écrit : >>> SQL> connect inet://localhost:3055/employee user SYSDBA password >>> 'masterkey'; >>> Database: inet://localhost:3055/employee, User: SYSDB

Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header

2022-08-24 Thread Tommi Prami
Dang... Try to use GStat instead. -Tee- -Original Message- From: Dimitry Sibiryakov Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2022 1:11 PM To: For discussion among Firebird Developers Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] (possible) Database header Tommi Prami wrote 23.08.2022 5:40: > I was thinking that i