this before, Hungarian is my mother tongue, not my profession.
:)))
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From: Adriano dos Santos Fernandes [mailto:adrian...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:35 PM
To: firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] ODP: RFC: Fix for issue 6915
On 06/11/2021 10:08, Omacht András wrote:
> Yes, this is a huge problem. When you order you have to know CS is CS or C
> and S.
>
> E.g.:
> CICA
> CUKOR
> CSIGA
> is the good order, not
> CICA
> CSIGA
> CUKOR
> even though S is ahead of ABC than U because C is ahead of CS and in CSIGA CS
> is
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Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] ODP: RFC: Fix for issue 6915
Yes, this is a huge problem. When you order you have to know CS is CS or C and
S.
E.g.:
CICA
CUKOR
CSIGA
is the good order
Omacht András wrote 06.11.2021 14:08:
Maybe if you find double letters you handled them together when you sort and
you handled them separated when you search.
Unfortunately comparison is used for sorting and sorting is used for indexes
and indexes are used for search so they cannot have
6, 2021 1:45 PM
To: firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] ODP: RFC: Fix for issue 6915
On 06/11/2021 09:19, Omacht András wrote:
> It is a rule, but hungarian languages have some of this "rules" / "cases".
>
> "SÁG"/"SÉG&quo
, November 6, 2021 1:09 PM
To: firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] ODP: RFC: Fix for issue 6915
2021.11.06. 12:35 keltezéssel, Omacht András írta:
>
> Gábor, am I correct?
>
I think yes.
But at searching as a user I want to get ZEBRA and ZSIRÁF too if use
On 06/11/2021 09:19, Omacht András wrote:
> It is a rule, but hungarian languages have some of this "rules" / "cases".
>
> "SÁG"/"SÉG" is a suffix, you can make new words (adjective -> noun) using it.
>
> IGAZ -> TRUE
> IGAZSÁG -> TRUTH
> ÍNYNEC -> GOURMET
> ÍNYENCSÉG -> DELICACY
>
> In this
S és CS are two different letters and its pronunciation is
different than "ZS" and "CS" letters.
András
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From: Adriano dos Santos Fernandes [mailto:adrian...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 12:50 PM
To: For discussion among Firebird Develo
2021.11.06. 12:35 keltezéssel, Omacht András írta:
Gábor, am I correct?
I think yes.
But at searching as a user I want to get ZEBRA and ZSIRÁF too if use
starting with 'Z'. :-)
Gabor
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On 06/11/2021 08:35, Omacht András wrote:
> For example, in the word of "IGAZSÁG", ZS is not a letter, but here two, a Z
> and an S.
Is it an exception to the rule or it it another rule?
Adriano
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Omacht András wrote 06.11.2021 12:35:
However, I am not sure whether it is not a better result for the average user
today, (e.g. in a quick search) if all appear after typing C...
AFAIU only "dictionary collations" are using contractions so developers of
applications for average users can
1 11:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] ODP: RFC: Fix for issue 6915
Gabor Boros wrote 05.11.2021 16:39:
> 2021.11.05. 12:36 keltezéssel, Pavel Cisar írta:
>> However, the Czech language defines only one contraction (CH), but
>> there are
Gabor Boros wrote 05.11.2021 16:39:
2021.11.05. 12:36 keltezéssel, Pavel Cisar írta:
However, the Czech language defines only one contraction (CH), but there are
other languages that have many such as Hungarian.
Yes: cs, dz, gy, ly, ny, sz, ty, zs and dzs. Sorry. :-)
Is it ok from the
2021.11.05. 12:36 keltezéssel, Pavel Cisar írta:
However, the Czech language defines only one contraction (CH), but there
are other languages that have many such as Hungarian.
Yes: cs, dz, gy, ly, ny, sz, ty, zs and dzs. Sorry. :-)
Gabor
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On 05/11/2021 08:54, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote:
>
> Before changing / fixing something we should first of all decide what
> result do we really need.
>
Please also take into account that what the customer primary problem was
the unacceptable performance degradation when they switch
Hi,
Dne 05. 11. 21 v 12:54 Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel napsal(a):
Pavel - how this SHOULD be in firebird from big clients POV?
STARTING WITH "HROC" should return only HROCENI or HROCH too?
They prefer that "C" should NOT match "CH" (which is also how Oracle and
SQLServer do it).
Fact
On 11/5/21 2:36 PM, Pavel Cisar wrote:
For example: The key "HROCH" (Czech word for hippopotamus) could have
sortkey: 13+27+23+14 (each letter replaced with byte representing it's
order place in alphabet, which is simplification for this showcase,
i.e. 13=H 27=R 23=O 14=CH)
If you would
Hi,
Dne 04. 11. 21 v 16:56 Karol Bieniaszewski napsal(a):
„The main reason why this "removal of trailing partial contraction" was
done is to achieve behavior "consistent" with search/evaluation in other
software (like text editors etc.), so (for example) STARTING WITH "C" or
LIKE "C%" will
On 11/4/21 6:56 PM, Karol Bieniaszewski wrote:
„The main reason why this "removal of trailing partial contraction" was
done is to achieve behavior "consistent" with search/evaluation in other
software (like text editors etc.), so (for example) STARTING WITH "C" or
LIKE "C%" will return rows
„The main reason why this "removal of trailing partial contraction" was
done is to achieve behavior "consistent" with search/evaluation in other
software (like text editors etc.), so (for example) STARTING WITH "C" or
LIKE "C%" will return rows starting with "C" or "CH".
This behavior itself
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