Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-10 Thread Francesco Rizzo
od >> was: "the cyberneticist observes what might have happened but did not". >> There is a point where idealised analogies cannot map onto experience. Then >> we learn something new. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Mark >> -

Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-10 Thread Karl Javorszky
gt; we learn something new. > > Best wishes, > > Mark > -- > From: Loet Leydesdorff <l...@leydesdorff.net> > Sent: ‎09/‎06/‎2016 12:52 > To: 'John Collier' <colli...@ukzn.ac.za>; 'Joseph Brenner' > <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>;

Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-09 Thread Stanley N Salthe
nd “mechanicist” can be used to capture > reducible dynamics that we get from any conservative system (what I call > Hamiltonian systems in my papers on the dynamics of emergence – such > systems don’t show emergent properties except in a trivial sense of being > unant*i*cipate

Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-09 Thread Mark Johnson
collier From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Joseph Brenner Sent: Thursday, 09 June 2016 11:10 AM To: fis <fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA Dear Folks, In my humble opinion, "Mechanical Information" is a co

Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-09 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
beck, University of London; <http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ=en> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJ=en From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of John Collier Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 12:04 PM To: Joseph Brenner; fis Subject: Re:

Re: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA

2016-06-09 Thread John Collier
AM To: fis <fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: [Fis] Fw: "Mechanical Information" in DNA Dear Folks, In my humble opinion, "Mechanical Information" is a contradiction in terms when applied to biological processes as described, among others, by Bob L. and his colleagues. Wh