[Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Hi What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a pity but it seems that almost all clients have no interest in Flash projects. Do you think Adobe Flash has no future? Where to move from Flash? Thanks ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Cédric Muller
Flash will be here for the years to come. Gladly, it isn't the sexy thing where trendy buzzers are. So, there are less projects, but projects are still flowing here, at least on the top high client part. I have no future, but Flash has one. Just look at all those HTML5 bad designs ;) Le 8 mai

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
I think of Flash the way I think of Shockwave. There is still work out there, but not much, and less every minute. Kevin N. On 5/8/13 10:40 AM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote: Hi What do you think about Flash technology in the near future? It is a pity but it seems that almost all clients have

RE: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Liu, Peter
Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can continue to use Flash without the need to learn another program? -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Newman Sent:

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Matt S.
It's effectively dead in the browser, except for some niche markets (game dev, children's content, educational), but it will survive for a long time, and has some potential in App and Game development across platforms. The real problem is that in the tech world, being perceived as last-years

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Henrik Andersson
Liu, Peter skriver: Why can't Adobe make HTML5 as one of the publishing options, then we can continue to use Flash without the need to learn another program? Because HTML5 doesn't do a good job at vector animation. The Flash runtime is quite powerful. And it is difficult to replicate so much

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
It's dead on the MOBILE browser. There are tons of sites still using the power of Flash. http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Matt

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Matt, If we need to have animation/cartoon or games on iPad and Android what is the programme for both platform? Do you mean that Flash can be used for both and that is why it has potential? What the tech word can offer in this situation? 2013/5/8 Matt S. mattsp...@gmail.com: It's effectively

[Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 68, Issue 2

2013-05-08 Thread Sergey Gonchar
Flash is great! Stage3D(GPU drivers starting from 2006), DirectX11 support, workers, FlasCC, PlayScript. DEAD? is it a joke right? 3 billion devices, 10 top games in facebook are on the flash technology. we develop project http://realaxy.com/start. Yes, I don't deny JS and Unity3D are great, but

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days. A few thoughts: 1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash still one of the popular tools to use for video animation? 2. I love AS3! I'd take AS3 and the Flash GUI over HTML5 any day. 3. We

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :) John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Then again, I'd hate to see Flash go the way of

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net wrote: And Director 12 came out a little while ago and compiles out to iPad. :) Wha??? That blows my mind. I thought Director was dead. Shows what I know! :D So, is it any good these days? Director was a fun animation

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Adobe didn't even make any kind of an announcement or anything. I'm a AUG manager and didn't hear about it there, but on LinkedIn when someone posted their 3D game, created in a pre-release version of D12 and running on a iPad. And running QUITE well I might add. :) John R. Sweeney Jr.

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
On 5/8/13 1:16 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Personally, I still love Flash. I miss that I don't use it as often these days. A few thoughts: 1. Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's not my industry, but isn't Flash still one of the popular tools to use for video animation? It was popular for certain types

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
That's what I mean by I think of Flash as Directory/Shockwave. It's not dead, it's just not the job engine it was for a while. It's a much harder sell - but it's still possible, and still has its niches. I still think Adobe could do some things to make it easier, even if they don't actively

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
That seems to be Adobe's general problem. They are very reactive, like used car salesmen. You want HTML5? Boy have we got HTML5! Clouds? We got clouds - on sale this week only! Technology companies can't succeed that way. Kevin N. On 5/8/13 1:58 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Adobe didn't

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I don't think its a niche… Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)? Till they have one, I can support all the platforms my clients want right now. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: heck AIR is - in fact, many still operate under the

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I know many Flash developers that moved over to xCode or Java/Javascript. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Kevin Newman wrote: Adobe not so much.

RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 68, Issue 2

2013-05-08 Thread Rick Hassen
We've used flash to develop apps for both ipad and android and it was a much better experience than using phonegap with html5 or cordova. wondering what you people think about flash cc being rebuilt from the ground up with 64 bit architecture. To me, it seems that adobe sees a future here as

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread natalia Vikhtinskaya
Right now there are over 25,000+ apps in the App store and/or iTunes. But they did not create in Flash I think. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Matt S.
Dead might have been too strong, admittedly. But it's a hard sell. Partly because every client has an iPad these days, and if their content doesn't work on their iPad, all hell breaks loose, so its easier to dumb it down to work with JS/CSS-based solutions. And yes, there are amazing Flash sites,

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Of course the did!!! There are over 500,000 apps up in the store. The 25k+ are native Flash builds. John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote: But they did not

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
I've just brought 4 educational games (originally built) for the desktop, 2 where projectors apps and two where AIR. All four are up in the iTunes store for sale on iPads. I'm doing 6 more and then building one from scratch specifically for the iPad in Flash. Haven't done a website in three

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread mike g
Have a look at what this guy has to say on the topic, it's worth a read: (was posted Apr 26, 2013) http://duboiseric.wordpress.com/category/is-flash-dead/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
And it will only get better with Flash Professional CC. :) http://www.adobe.com/products/flash.html John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On May 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, natalia Vikhtinskaya wrote: But they did

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Sorry, but when someone says that HTML5 is replacing what can be done in Flash, I can't take them seriously. Flash made what you built look and act the same in all browsers. HTML5 is going the same path as every previous version. Features working some the same, some differently, some not at all

Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe Flash future

2013-05-08 Thread Kevin Newman
On 5/8/13 2:20 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Please tell me another software that I can build an app that runs on PC/MAC/Linux/iPad/Android/Web (non-mobile)? NME / haXe, or with a bit of additional work, Xamarin (with the various Mono ports) - or Unity3D - based on the same tech. There are