Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Muzak
irngorm). regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: "David Hershberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash Actually, Cairngorm does allow arbitrary mappings from e

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread David Hershberger
Actually, Cairngorm does allow arbitrary mappings from events to commands, it does not require 1-to-1. The FrontController's addCommand() function takes an event name (String) and a Command class. In our app I have used the same event with different name-constants to run different commands, like

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi, it's similar but not the same. Yes in PureMVC you register your objects as well, but you register them by a name defined in the class being registered (and you have to define this name). This causes references to a concrete class everytime you retrieve your registry item and you cannot easily

RE: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Merrill, Jason
be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muzak Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:28 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash I guess alot of us (including myself) have gotten used to the "global-thing-in-dis

RE: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Merrill, Jason
Joel Stransky Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:16 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash While I have no authority to defend why, I'm leaning toward PureMVC. From what I remember it's very similar to whats being described here. Events are hijacked and all comm

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Joel Stransky
While I have no authority to defend why, I'm leaning toward PureMVC. From what I remember it's very similar to whats being described here. Events are hijacked and all commands are registered in one place which can be triggered from anywhere. Of course I'll have to put my money where my mouth is bef

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi Jason, i only saw this post now, not sure if it was directed at me or at the list in general or both, but anyway: i agree the naming conventions could be better, but I don't mind using some kind of locator object. I posted previously about my approach I think. I use an ApplicationRegistry wher

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-20 Thread Muzak
ouseEvent.MOUSE_DOWN MouseEvent.MOUSE_UP etc.. Think that's about it.. regards, Muzak - Original Message ----- From: "Merrill, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] frameworks and fl

RE: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-18 Thread Merrill, Jason
>> Read the article, some good, some bad. What are your thoughts on the article's baching of Cairngorm's ModelLocator? The he says its really a global var in disguise, and I understand that, but I still find it very handy - maybe it makes it somewhat tighter coupled to the model, but I use the

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-17 Thread Ron Wheeler
In larger co-operative projects it is important for the reasons above. Paul - Original Message - From: "Joel Stransky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash @ek

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-17 Thread Jim McIntyre
Micky Hulse wrote: Can anyone suggest a framework that would work best for cartoon/experimental animations (vs. a website-oriented framework.) To reiterate what some have said: take a look at Gaia. I used it on a large (for us, anyway) site that includes lots of cartoon animation: http://w

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-15 Thread Joel Stransky
he strategies followed >> by others. >> >> In tiny projects frameworks aren't too important. In larger co-operative >> projects it is important for the reasons above. >> >> Paul >> - Original Message - From: "Joel Stransky" < >> [

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-15 Thread sebastian
understand the strategies followed by others. In tiny projects frameworks aren't too important. In larger co-operative projects it is important for the reasons above. Paul - Original Message - From: "Joel Stransky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List&

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-15 Thread Steven Sacks
Joel, Considering the types of Flash sites you're talking about building, Flex is not the solution you need. However, Flex is absolutely worth learning, if only to expand your skillset which leads to making more money per hour. ;) Out of all the frameworks you listed, only Gaia is for making

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-15 Thread Paul Andrews
Paul - Original Message - From: "Joel Stransky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flash Coders List" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash @ekameleon, that seems a little intense for me atm. This discussion is mainly about we

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-15 Thread Joel Stransky
@ekameleon, that seems a little intense for me atm. This discussion is mainly about weather or not it's just dumb not to use a framework vs. plain as3 when building common flash sites. I'm looking to hear things like, "PureMVC makes everything easier." or "It makes no sense not to use Mate." On Sa

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Hans Wichman
Read the article, some good, some bad. If anyone declares you for a fool if you prefix interfaces with 'I' and use marker interface, I tend to gloss over the rest of the article since it no longer comes across trustworthy... Personal preference aside:) On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:05 AM, David Hersh

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Micky Hulse
Can anyone suggest a framework that would work best for cartoon/experimental animations (vs. a website-oriented framework.) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Steve Bailey
I'm coming to the party late so I may be off topic a bit but if you're looking for an excellent framework to build a flash website on, you can't beat http://gaiaflashframework.com. I built my website (http://www.memoriesforevervideo.com) on that framework and love it. Steve Bailey On Nov

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Olivier Besson
Hello, do you have examples of sites made using one these frameworks? Olivier ps: no need to be strictly FWA-like ;) ekameleon a écrit : Hello :) You can try Maashaack and VEGAS : http://code.google.com/p/maashaack/ http://code.google.com/p/vegas/ To test the IoC/MVC implementation with Maas

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread ekameleon
Hello :) You can try Maashaack and VEGAS : http://code.google.com/p/maashaack/ http://code.google.com/p/vegas/ To test the IoC/MVC implementation with Maashaack and VEGAS you can try the documentary framework AST'r : http://code.google.com/p/astr ASTr is only a little template/example who use M

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Joel Stransky
Well I'm not exactly getting into Flex yet. If after some testing I find that I can do normal flash sites as well as RIA's I'll switch to Flex full time and in that case, PureMVC or Mate. Right now my focus is the kind of stuff you see on FWA. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, David Hershberger <[E

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread David Hershberger
Haha! Before you try Cairngorm, check out this article: http://blog.iconara.net/2008/04/13/architectural-atrocities-part-x-cairngorms-model-locator-pattern/ Having used Cairngorm for a while now I have to agree with him. The article is pretty harsh, and it only talks about the ModelLocator part

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread Joel Stransky
Thanks for the post Dave. Cairngorm sounds a lot like PureMVC which does away with events and implements a global command structure. So far it's appealing although my first run in with it was under bad conditions. A client of a friend had mangled it something fierce before he was brought in at whic

Re: [Flashcoders] frameworks and flash

2008-11-14 Thread David Hershberger
We have been using Adobe Flex for the past year and have really liked it. It would be hard to call it "blazing" and "bloat" does seem like it might apply to some extent, but on the other hand it does so many nice things for us it is hard to argue with. MXML is very powerful, but there is certainly