I'm absulutely sure flex had brilhant future... It's really amazing
plataform and the comunnity is really good and everyone help everyone
especially members of flex team inside adobe. Even the software is not
open source (Flex Builder and Flash) the professional inside adobe
allway listening us
On Saturday 20 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So how do I make my browser cache the swf? Every time I navigate to
my app, the swf loads from the server.
Assuming the file hasn't changed, this is wrong.
Is your browser set to use a cache ? Of what size ? What headers is your web
server
:05 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is becoming unviable
I like the idea of the Flash Player loading the framework RSL
in stealth mode piece by piece when the connection is idle.
But we really need to know if the user has the RSL. If they
do then we know
I can't make any compelling arguments about file sizes or framework caching,
I'm still too green in Flex for that. But if you wonder if Flex itself has a
future, just look at Silverlight. Microsoft wouldn't have wasted all that
money building it if they didn't see Flex/AIR as some sort of threat.
It there was a way that I could load the modules in the background while
the user is doing other things would be great, then it would be there
right when I need it.
A quick Google search would have shown you that this is possible with
modules, by doing
I think the framework caching is right way to make swf files smaller.
But even i know not all apps for flash player not use flex framework i
think this 500kb framework file must be loaded not when user try use
some flex app, but in stealth like flash player update (i don't know
it is possible) but
I like the idea of the Flash Player loading the framework RSL in stealth
mode piece by piece when the connection is idle. But we really need to know
if the user has the RSL. If they do then we know basic apps are down to
200kb to 400kb. Remember, this *is* comparable to HTML websites with
Of dave_defusion
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:39 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is becoming unviable
It there was a way that I could load the modules in the background
while
the user is doing other things would be great, then it would be there
right when I
: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:01 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is becoming unviable
But we shouldn't have to rely on people getting faster and faster
connections. To me, that is the same as saying I don't have to worry
about poor coding practices
dbronk wrote:
So how do I make my browser cache the swf? Every time I navigate to
my app, the swf loads from the server.
As far as comparing html sites with using modules, I think it is very
tough to compare such different techologies. But, with the modules I
have to wait for another xK
Well, in the AJAX apps I've written, even the first downloads were
rarely more than 200k, normal 150k. After that, every request was
around 2k-10k.
But again, I think this is comparing apples and oranges, there are
pluses and minuses for both. I personally think that Flex is the way
to go. I
: Flex is becoming unviable
Well, in the AJAX apps I've written, even the first downloads were
rarely more than 200k, normal 150k. After that, every request was
around 2k-10k.
But again, I think this is comparing apples and oranges, there are
pluses and minuses for both. I personally think
the
various view states don't need to be different html pages.
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of dbronk
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:01 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is becoming
Now if the browser could cache the swf file like it does a graphic,
then that would ease my mind a bit.
swf's are cached by the browser, just like any other assets.
Muzak
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But we shouldn't have to rely on people getting faster and faster
connections. To me, that is the same as saying I don't have to worry
about poor coding practices that produce inefficient apps because
Intel is building faster chips.
Adobe needs to put very serious thought into aggressively
On Friday 19 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But i think this is good price to pay.
Exactly. The percentage of people with fast connections is only going to go
up.
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Tom Chiverton. Are you a great Flex programmer, who knows Cairngorm, and has
done some ColdFusion work ? Would you like to
500kb is nothing when use fast connections but in dial-up is huge
problem and my app if for brazillian public, here only 70% of users
had fast connections.
But i think this is good price to pay.
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On Thursday 18 Oct 2007,
On Thursday 18 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
adobe products, but i will waiting some months and the final release
to use flex in small websites and app.(When more user has dowloaded
framework :-))
player when 500kb is nothing when use fast connections.
That looks like a
I'm sure i will note rebuild the project, i'm realy like flex and
adobe products, but i will waiting some months and the final release
to use flex in small websites and app.(When more user has dowloaded
framework :-))
Only reason i prefer rsl inside player is minimize initial dowloadn time.
But
Will adobe don't put flex framework inside flashplayer?
Framework caching is exactly this but better because it can be
upgraded on the fly and you dont have to wait for the next player
update to use a more recent framework. Why would you prefer the
framework being built into the player over
You can learn about the export release version wizard by watching
the video at
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/videos/exportreleasewizard/ -
it explains why this change was made and how you can use this new
feature to create an optimized version of your application.
Tim
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Holy cf_cows / Batman! Welcome to Flexcoders Tim!
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On 10/15/07, tim_buntel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can learn about the export release version wizard by watching
the video at
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/videos/exportreleasewizard/ -
it explains why this change was made
The terminology is framework caching and this generate a huge file
with 500kb and all this giant file must be load before your swf.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Brendan Meutzner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I can't remember the exact terminology for it, but one of the goals
for Flex
Thanks for video, now the file had 300kb and not 400kb, i still
thinking this is a big file... I thinking adobe need take a look in
ways to optimize the size of swfs...
I really love flex and what can be done with him, but the size of swfs
is your worst problem.
Some one know other way to
Thanks for the welcome, Douglas. It's nice to be here!
Persistent Framework Caching, aka RSLs, actually reduce the size of
your applications. And, you guessed it, there's a video and feature
write-up about RSLs at
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_3:Feature_Introductions#Pers
download, I might go with modules.
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of danielvlopes
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:14 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex is becoming unviable
Thanks for video
I think this way to optimize rsl will don't work with persistent
framework caching, because flasplayer need swz file for framework
caching, like showed in this topic:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/90015
Alex, thanks for answer, i my first case, the client who payed for
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