Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lee A Crocker
I do like the idea of being able to plug the flex wire into the box for PSDR connectivity independent of ddutil. I have at some times had stability issues with ddutil and would like another path into the box. Also I would like to see an output that would be compatable with previous X2

Re: [Flexradio] Flex 1500 Class A bias?

2008-10-14 Thread Lee A Crocker
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Re: [Flexradio] Computer

2008-10-14 Thread Lee A Crocker
I had to try a couple of PC card-firewire interfaces before I found one that was stable. this is the one that wound up working

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 12:21 AM, Lee A Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the idea of being able to plug the flex wire into the box for PSDR connectivity independent of ddutil. I have at some times had stability issues with ddutil and would like another path into the box. Also I would like

Re: [Flexradio] Panadapter response time

2008-10-14 Thread NU8Z
Ned: Thanks for the reply. Nope.. I tried that. It of course changed the averaging sample rate, but did not have an effect on the stability of the visual signal on the panadapter as I tuned toward it. The visual on the signal drops way down until I quit tuning. I played with all the display

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Flanders
One highly-rated amp, the Yaesu Quadra, requires it. At least according to the instruction manual. Not to replace the mic gain control, but as an emergency exciter shutdown method. The ICOM PW-1 uses similar circuitry, IIRC. What would happen to the Quadra if the antenna coax connector opened

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp and exciter comes almost for free.. You bring some convenient bias control input out of the exciter and drive it with a error signal of some sort from the amp. (then, you have to

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 8:06 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp and exciter comes almost for free.. You bring some convenient bias control input out of the exciter and drive

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 11:36 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: On 10/14/08 8:06 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp and exciter comes almost for free.. You bring some convenient bias

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 8:55 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:36 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: On 10/14/08 8:06 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
I think we have come to the same conclusion so there would be a PTT line pass-thru and we will defeat it if the calibrated voltage is exceeded (is exceeded t he right word for going too negative!) Neal Campbell www.abrohamnealsoftware.com AIM:nealk3nc On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Bob

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
Not sure why. The microchip (its going to be an Atmel ATMega128) will sense voltage every 100 milliseconds and if the calibrated voltage for that band is hit, it breaks continuiity of the ptt passthru line. I am sure we could make the delay smaller but I am confused why you think this is

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Tom Thompson
I have two homebrew, solid state amps with no alc. The big amp (1kW) has no protection, uses MRF 154s, and takes 15 watts to drive to full power. I have accidently driven it with 100 W with no damage. The small amp (600 W) uses 4 MRF 150s in parallel pushpull. I built over drive

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 10:04 AM, Tom Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two homebrew, solid state amps with no alc. The big amp (1kW) has no protection, uses MRF 154s, and takes 15 watts to drive to full power. I have accidently driven it with 100 W with no damage. The small amp (600 W)

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Neal Campbell K3NC
Me either! Neal Campbell K3NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM:nealk3nc telnet to our DX Spotting clusters at: dxc.k3nc.com, ports 12001 and 23 Devoted to Dogs: How to be your dog's best owner Great Dog Book at www.abrohamneal.com On Oct 14, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Jerry Flanders wrote:

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 11:13 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: On 10/14/08 8:06 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp and exciter comes almost for free.. You bring some convenient bias

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Jerry Flanders
I think it would work well enough. When I get a round tuit, I hope to make a gadget that will insert a 10 dB pad between the exciter and the amplifier if the ALC voltage exceeds the setpoint. It would have to be manually reset to resume full drive after tripping and would be totally

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 11:49 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would work well enough. When I get a round tuit, I hope to make a gadget that will insert a 10 dB pad between the exciter and the amplifier if the ALC voltage exceeds the setpoint. It would have to be manually reset

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lee A Crocker
I think I see the issue. The amps I have designed aim for time constants in the microsecond range and rigs like the TS940 aim for time constants in the 1 second range. How I have done this in the past is to use electronic bias in the amp and clamp the bias in the case of overshoot. The real

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 6:48 AM, Frank Brickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Lux, James P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that the dttsp core has to get an input from the ALC signal, and then go in and adjust the gain, which then changes the levels of the signals

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Frank Brickle
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Lux, James P [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Remember that the dttsp core has to get an input from the ALC signal, and then go in and adjust the gain, which then changes the levels of the signals emerging from the DAC. The DSP wouldn't ever see anything like an ALC

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 8:06 AM, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:52 AM 10/14/2008, Lux, James P wrote: snip In days of yore with an analog system, tight coupling between amp and exciter comes almost for free.. You bring some convenient bias control input out of the exciter and drive

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Bob McGwier
VERY sound advice. Bob ARRL SDR Working Group Chair Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. Trample the slow Hurdle the dead -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lux, James P Sent: Tuesday, October

Re: [Flexradio] What would you like to see in an accessory box?

2008-10-14 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/14/08 9:21 AM, Lee A Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is a PTT feedback scheme would be too slow to save your bacon unless it somehow anticipates the fault. It would also depend on the PTT sensing logic in the software to work. Crowbar across the RF input? -

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Jim R
Dudley I am running a Tokyo Hy Power solid state amp HL-1.5KFX. The protection circuits are very fast acting and I can only run the amp at about 25% of its capability. Even at low 25 watt drive levels the peaks on the flex shoot over 100 watts tripping the protection circuitry. I have

[Flexradio] flexwire-attached stunt box

2008-10-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
There has been discussion here about some kind of external, intelligent stunt box attached to the flexwire port in order to provide interface to various things, e.g. ALC, antenna rotator control, etc. Something key to me would be some sort of scripting language that would become part of

[Flexradio] Flex Up and Running

2008-10-14 Thread k4elo
After total failure with an IBM Thinkpad notebook (the firewire/cardbus and all but the kitchen sink on irq16 - Windows just plain stopped dead), I finally have my new 5000A up and running on a MacBook Pro using BootCamp/Windows XP (firewire is the only device on irq19). Unfortunately I am in a

Re: [Flexradio] Flex Up and Running

2008-10-14 Thread Dale Boresz
Hello Wayne, I strongly recommend that you investigate small receiving loops. They are much quieter than a dipole or vertical, and because of their very sharp and deep nulls perpendicular to the plane of the loop, you can null out local noise sources by simply rotating the loop to place the

[Flexradio] flexwire-attached stunt box

2008-10-14 Thread Lee A Crocker
In my opinion the protection hardware should reside in the amplifier not in the flex box and not in the computer. The amp is where the $700 tube resides. personally I don't see much need for ALC anyway. I have long called for a scripting language for PSDR as long ago as the SDR-1000. Its

Re: [Flexradio] ALC?

2008-10-14 Thread Dudley Hurry
Jim, You need to work with the ALC settings in the DSP tab.. I know quite a few have played with these settings and had varying rate of success, but you need to watch the ALC meter in TX window, you might need to lower the time for the attack and raise the decay settings, but this will