Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread N9RO
Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ?? Perhaps the "pollution" situation is more of an ethical issue than a legal one. An analogy might help to understand. As far as I remember, the FCC and other authorities place no legal constraints on audio qua

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Simon Brown
Gedas, This is an interesting situation for me, and indeed I had never considered the possible unwanted emissions from a Flex or any other SDR. This is this interesting because I'm hoping to use a nice 90ft dish in the future and with the gain this beasty has I could make a right royal nuisance

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Jack Haverty
Perhaps the "pollution" situation is more of an ethical issue than a legal one. An analogy might help to understand. As far as I remember, the FCC and other authorities place no legal constraints on audio quality.A transmitter with badly distorted audio and a loud 120 Hz hum is painful for ot

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread J. Wayne Chauffe
ds on both the digital (AFSK) and SSB. John -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ian Scoble Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:55 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ?? I don’t us

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Kjeld Bülow Thomsen
Yes, I first discovered this issue as i red SM5BSZ’s article. But I do care about my fellow radio amateurs in the neighborhood or across the North Sea. My 1,5 m dish for 23/13 cm has it 3 dB points between ~150 km over the London area. By lifted conditions that are very common during spring and sum

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 13:20 4/22/2014, John Kramer wrote: I read a disturbing post on the TS-2000 reflector claiming that the legacy Flex radio’s pollute the bands with noise….it claimed that the Flex-5000, 3000 and 1500 are by far the worst of any modern radio. The poster also said that under no circumstances

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Samuel Strongin
It is obvious that those who condemn this statement have no idea what he is talking about or understand any weak signal work . Perhaps people should educate themselves about the said topic . Sam Strongin kf4yox Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Steven Hess wrote: > > I

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Gedas
W8BYA Gallery at http://w8bya.com Light travels faster than sound This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. - Original Message - From: "Steven Hess" To: "FlexRadio reflector" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio]

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Ian Scoble
I don’t usually want to get involved in this type of argument but I have to say for the few contacts that are made on the microwave bands in comparison to what are usually made on HF I really don’t see this as an issue also by the fact that you are using dishes with very small beam widths again it’

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread William H. Fite
In Vermont, these people are called "'giners," Agin this, agin that. Or, as my grandmother would have said, "Never wanting what you've got. Always wanting what it's not." They are always with us. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Steven Hess wrote: > I'd like to know what is arrogant about

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Steven Hess
I'd like to know what is arrogant about making a radio that surpasses all legitimate legal requirements by quite a bit? Most places have a noise floor so high you'll never notice this at all. Some people just live to complain and tear things down. I put that in this category. Lets just drop it.

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Drax Felton
My toyota Prius is a wonderful piece of technology but I don't expect it to excel at all things. Saves gas but will never win anything. > On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kjeld Bülow Thomsen wrote: > > The article about broadband noise from the Flex radios was published in the > DUBUS Magazine 3

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-23 Thread Kjeld Bülow Thomsen
The article about broadband noise from the Flex radios was published in the DUBUS Magazine 3 -2013. I was a long time waiting for a official response from Flexradio. As nothing happened I contacted Flexradio and got the same information from Tim Ellison: Yes, we agree upon SM5BSZ’s measurement but

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-22 Thread Paul - K6HR
radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ?? > > Greg > > Thank you very much for your response, it does somewhat put my mind at ease. > I was > not aware that this complaint has been circulating for some time now - it is > the first I >

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-22 Thread Jim Jannuzzo
: Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ?? > > Greg > > Thank you very much for your response, it does somewhat put my mind at ease. > I was > not aware that this complaint has been circulating for some time now - it is > the first I > have heard of it. &g

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-22 Thread John Kramer
Greg Thank you very much for your response, it does somewhat put my mind at ease. I was not aware that this complaint has been circulating for some time now - it is the first I have heard of it. Being a responsible ham, I always strive to transmit the cleanest signal that I possibly can….and

Re: [Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-22 Thread Michael
Looks all the world to me like somebody with an agenda and an axe to grind. I don't know for sure but the tone of the writing sure reminds me of a poster over on e-ham who has been screaming about transmitter IMD performance for years. He never talks about anything else and most of us have ju

[Flexradio] Flex radios are the worst polluters ??

2014-04-22 Thread John Kramer
I read a disturbing post on the TS-2000 reflector claiming that the legacy Flex radio’s pollute the bands with noise….it claimed that the Flex-5000, 3000 and 1500 are by far the worst of any modern radio. The poster also said that under no circumstances should a Flex be used with an amplifier