Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Ahti Aintila
On 26/06/2008, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key words when working with relays are debouncing, contact wetting currents and contamination control of contact materials. Contrary to the common belief, silver is not the best material for low voltage contacts (24 V) due to the high

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Bill Tippett
W0UN: What I think is happening to you is the same sort of thing. There is such a low voltage across the contacts that any sort of oxide film prevents making a good contact. For a test try cutting a thin strip of a 3x5 file card and insert it between the contacts and press the contacts closed

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread John Brosnahan -- W0UN
John I think you're on the right track but the oxide could be due to different paddle contact metals. Someone reported a similar problem with a Begali paddle but I cannot find the reference for this at the moment. Piero once used some odd alloy for his standard paddle contacts. The

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting Ahti Aintila [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Thu 26 Jun 2008 12:59:31 AM PDT: On 26/06/2008, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key words when working with relays are debouncing, contact wetting currents and contamination control of contact materials. Contrary to the common belief, silver

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Lee A Crocker
maybe if you plated the skunk with silver. 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives:

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread k5nwa
At 06:38 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote: maybe if you plated the skunk with silver. 73 W9OY Platinum is the ultimate in contact, it will not corrode when exposed to quite a few chemicals, medical instruments tend to use platinum for electrodes because they need ultra reliable connections, it's

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Tom Thompson
: Art Gartner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000 On 26/06/2008, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key words when working with relays are debouncing, contact wetting currents

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread John Brosnahan -- W0UN
At 26-06-08 10:22, you wrote: Hi Guys, I have been following this thread with some interest because I occasionally experience this problem with the SDR-1000. Since the problem seems not to occur on the IC-7000, I made a couple of measurements. I have my paddles connected through the key port on

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-26 Thread Ed Haskell
John, You forgot to tell us what happened with the polecat ! Ed K5RJI On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM, John Brosnahan -- W0UN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 26-06-08 10:22, you wrote: Hi Guys, I have been following this thread with some interest because I occasionally experience this

[Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Art Gartner
I just got a new P4 paddle from K8RA. About every once in awhile the dah paddle does not make a connection, i.e. I get nothing out. My Vibroplex works fine. I thought it might be the cable so I switched cables. Same results. I unchecked iambic to just manually key the transmitter and the same

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Ellison
-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000 I just got a new P4 paddle from K8RA. About every once in awhile the dah paddle does not make a connection, i.e. I get nothing out. My Vibroplex works fine. I thought it might be the cable so I switched cables. Same results. I unchecked iambic

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread John Brosnahan -- W0UN
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Gartner Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:06 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000 I just got a new P4 paddle from K8RA. About every once in awhile the dah

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Jay Sewell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Art Gartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Gartner Sent: Wednesday

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread John Brosnahan -- W0UN
At 25-06-08 12:57, Jay Sewell wrote: Hi John and Art. I've read your description of the problem, Art, and I have read the ideas presented by John. I would like to comment on this situation based on my own experience. My Flex5000A was new in March. I would like to know the experience of

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Jay Sewell
basis. John, thanks for your ideas. 73, Jay - Original Message - From: John Brosnahan -- W0UN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Sewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Art Gartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Jim Lux
At 05:45 PM 6/25/2008, Jay Sewell wrote: John, I fully understand and feel your approach is sound. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Wouldn't it be great if this were the cause and the problem could then be perhaps easily addressed? It would certainly be very useful to know one way or the

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Lee A Crocker
You can try using the COM port to key the rig. I think the new contact material sometimes acts like a semiconductor instead of a conductor in some circuits. Pin 4 is common Pin 6 dit, Pin 8 dah. You can get the plug for a buck or so at Radio Shack. You set up the COM port under

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread John Brosnahan -- W0UN
At 25-06-08 19:45, Jay Sewell wrote: John, I fully understand and feel your approach is sound. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Wouldn't it be great if this were the cause and the problem could then be perhaps easily addressed? It would certainly be very useful to know one way or the

Re: [Flexradio] K8RA P4 Paddle with Flex5000

2008-06-25 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting Ahti Aintila [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Wed 25 Jun 2008 10:15:08 PM PDT: On 26/06/2008, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have the F5K schematic, so I don't know what sort of conditioning or input circuit they use. Jim gave a good list. I agree, SDR1k has a pretty reliable