re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread David Megginson
Ross Golder writes: But why is it not in CVS? How come it seems to work for other people, but not for me? Comments welcome!!! Thanks for catching that. The problem occurs only for people using old 3DFX cards, and that's why I missed it when I was cleaning up some stale includes (it caused

re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson writes: I think that the right fix is to put fullscreen in globals.hxx, not in options.hxx. I'll see if I have time to do that this morning. I've made and committed the changes, but I have no way of testing them, since my system doesn't define the FX macro. Could someone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:31:24 -0800 (PST), Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, from _my_ point of view (aka PLIB and SimGear from CVS on Debian) it builds fine ... and has done for months. Can someone please give me an opinion on these, even if it's 'shut up

re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Ross Golder
David, Thanks for that. However, it seems to have broken something else... make[2]: Entering directory `/data/home/rossg/workshop/flightgear/FlightGear/src/ATC' g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c atis.cxx In

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Ross Golder
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 16:32, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..does RedHat 7.1 or 7.2 compile FG from csv? Does anyone know of an how-to etc to do the above? Ross? And, does anyone support Red Hat on FG and vice versa? (I've heard of people flying FG on Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1.) It almost compiles cleanly

re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread David Megginson
Ross Golder writes: Thanks for that. However, it seems to have broken something else... OK, I've checked in a new globals.hxx, and would be grateful if you could try again. All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Ross Golder
Yep, that fixed that problem. I've done a 'make maintainer-clean' and started from the top, so I'll let it run while I'm out and report anything else later. -- Ross On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 17:37, David Megginson wrote: Ross Golder writes: Thanks for that. However, it seems to have broken

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sunday 6 January 2002 17:55, you wrote: On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 16:32, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..does RedHat 7.1 or 7.2 compile FG from csv? Does anyone know of an how-to etc to do the above? Ross? And, does anyone support Red Hat on FG and vice versa? (I've heard of people flying FG on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Ross Golder
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 18:09, Arnt Karlsen wrote: hours/days. There are supposedly some issues with the stock RedHat Mesa packages, so you will probably need to install a different version of the Mesa libraries (I use 4.0.1 from source tarball). ..built the classic way or 'rpm -tb'-style?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread David Megginson
Christian Mayer writes: Anyway, FGFS and SimGear via CVS is ok, even with a pay-per-minute ISDN line (used to do that a few times). But I'd get the basepackage normally. I wouldn't recommend that ... the JSBSim formats, in particular, have been changing a lot (sometimes a couple of times

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why not use FS2002 aircraft files?

2002-01-06 Thread Per Liedman
On Saturday 05 January 2002 19:38, throttle1000 wrote: I think rj? is better. He seems to have lot of knowledge about the matter. I am bretty busy with my moving map project at the moment. And I have no idea about what is done in the FG project so far. To me it looks a bit messy. I would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Christian Mayer
David Megginson wrote: Christian Mayer writes: Anyway, FGFS and SimGear via CVS is ok, even with a pay-per-minute ISDN line (used to do that a few times). But I'd get the basepackage normally. I wouldn't recommend that ... the JSBSim formats, in particular, have been changing a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Bernie Bright
Christian Mayer wrote: Alex Perry wrote: (Here, I try to estimate the download size when doing my first ever csv update, on slow time-metered isdn. CVS (it'll take you a few weeks to get the hang of typing it right 8-) is a very efficient method of doing the transfer, but it is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sunday 6 January 2002 21:49, David Megginson wrote: Christian Mayer writes: Anyway, FGFS and SimGear via CVS is ok, even with a pay-per-minute ISDN line (used to do that a few times). But I'd get the basepackage normally. I wouldn't recommend that ... the JSBSim formats, in

[Flightgear-devel] FreeGLUT

2002-01-06 Thread Ross Golder
It seems Mesa 4.0.1 doesn't come with glut, like 3.4. Has using freeglut been discussed before? I couldn't find anything in the archives. http://freeglut.sf.net/ I played around with this before, but didn't complete the job. I spoke with the current maintainer, and he says plenty of projects

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why not use FS2002 aircraft files?

2002-01-06 Thread Marcio Shimoda
The idea would be to use the graphichs part of MS files. They have lot of nice airplane outside and panel graphics. That alone would take 1000 years to do. Butthe problem is:FGFS doesn't support moving parts,jetsandpropelleron/off, ... When you plot the model, all of these

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why not use FS2002 aircraft files?

2002-01-06 Thread throttle1000
Butthe problem is:FGFS doesn't support moving parts,jetsandpropelleron/off, ... When you plot the model, all of these things appear together! Try with this FS98 model: http://www.simviation.com/files/military/f14a9801.zip

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Why not use FS2002 aircraft files?

2002-01-06 Thread Marcio Shimoda
What is not supported (yet) is left out. If no moving parts then the parts don't move. Until sombody makes them to move? Use what can be used? That is anyway better than nothing. I know, but plot all together... Marcio Shimoda ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hello? Is anyone listening?

2002-01-06 Thread John Check
On Sunday 06 January 2002 05:05 pm, you wrote: Christian Mayer wrote: Alex Perry wrote: (Here, I try to estimate the download size when doing my first ever csv update, on slow time-metered isdn. CVS (it'll take you a few weeks to get the hang of typing it right 8-) is a very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FreeGLUT

2002-01-06 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:20:14PM -0500, Norman Vine wrote: Ross Golder writes: Anyone thought about this before? Care to comment? the PLib team has a long range goal of using freeglut as a base for a 'better' gaming oriented library, but none of us have felt the mecessary 'itch' as GLUT

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FreeGLUT

2002-01-06 Thread Norman Vine
James A. Treacy writes: On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:20:14PM -0500, Norman Vine wrote: Ross Golder writes: Anyone thought about this before? Care to comment? the PLib team has a long range goal of using freeglut as a base for a 'better' gaming oriented library, but none of us have felt the

[Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread throttle1000
This sound system seems to work very well in Windows. Might be better than what is now used? Linuxable also. http://www.openal.org/home/ JOJ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread Alex Perry
This sound system seems to work very well in Windows. Might be better than what is now used? Linuxable also. As a matter of policy, please review the mailing list archives before starting discussion threads on topics that have already been examined. Since the PLIB project is considering

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread throttle1000
On my computer sound stops playing after 5s! PC/Win98. JOJ In any case, for the purposes of flight simulation, SL works well enough and also works (as far as I know) on all our supported platforms. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread Alex Perry
On my computer sound stops playing after 5s! PC/Win98. Surprised; it works fine on both my Linux and Windows machines. Are you running accelerated ? ... i.e. a framerate above 1 sec ? Do you have the engine running ? Have you tried using a nav radio ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread throttle1000
I have tested this several times .. even with my self compiled version. The sound stops playing after few seconds! Happens every time I run FGFS. And this is the only game that does that! I run FU3, MSCombatSim, and several other games WITHOUT any sound problem. FGFS is the only soundless one.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread Alex Perry
First, the obvious solution is not to run 1.2.x ... after all, the 1.4 series has been released stable. Second, from memory (back when I was running 1.2) the bug was only a problem with navaid sound effects. I have tested this several times .. even with my self compiled version. The sound

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL

2002-01-06 Thread throttle1000
First, the obvious solution is not to run 1.2.x ... after all, the 1.4 series has been released stable. I am not running any version since it cannot even be downloaded! This bug was there 1/2 year ago! Second, from memory (back when I was running 1.2) the bug was only a problem with navaid