RE: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Berndt
> Full tanks way out on the wingtips of a 310 must create a significant > roll moment. JSBSim will generate that moment for us, based on the > amount of fuel in the tanks; however, if the published moment > *already* assumes full wingtip tanks, then we'll get far too much rolling. I am 90% sure t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Michael Selig
At 3/10/03, David Megginson wrote: Jim Wilson writes: > > I found the C310 JSBSim model very unstable, so I've increased roll, > > pitch, and yaw damping -- please try it out and let me know what you > > think. > > Ah, much easier to land. I can't vouch for the realism, but it > sure is a l

RE: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
Jon Berndt writes: > > I'm not sure I changed the right coefficients, though -- I'm going to > > look into it more when I get the chance. The real problem might be in > > the moments of inertia. > > Hmm. I'm not so sure. The moments of inertia are cut and pasted from a > technical document.

RE: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Berndt
> Cmalpha for pitch and Cnbeta for yaw are good candidates for tweaking > too. Tony: Did any pages from that tech report I lent you survive the dog mauling? That report should have some good data on an analogous twin. Jon smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

RE: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Berndt
> I'm not sure I changed the right coefficients, though -- I'm going to > look into it more when I get the chance. The real problem might be in > the moments of inertia. Hmm. I'm not so sure. The moments of inertia are cut and pasted from a technical document. That's just what they are. You can't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: > > I'm not sure I changed the right coefficients, though -- I'm going to > > look into it more when I get the chance. The real problem might be in > > the moments of inertia. > > Cmalpha for pitch and Cnbeta for yaw are good candidates for tweaking > too. Agreed -- Cma

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Tony Peden
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 19:04, David Megginson wrote: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > > I found the C310 JSBSim model very unstable, so I've increased roll, > > > pitch, and yaw damping -- please try it out and let me know what you > > > think. > > > > Ah, much easier to land. I can't vouch for th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > > I found the C310 JSBSim model very unstable, so I've increased roll, > > pitch, and yaw damping -- please try it out and let me know what you > > think. > > Ah, much easier to land. I can't vouch for the realism, but it > sure is a lot easier to line up and stay ther

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I found the C310 JSBSim model very unstable, so I've increased roll, > pitch, and yaw damping -- please try it out and let me know what you > think. > Ah, much easier to land. I can't vouch for the realism, but it sure is a lot easier to line up and s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747-400 cruise information

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: > > From looking at the code > > Bless you, my brother. :) I promise I'll come back eventually. You'll > probably want to check those notes into the YASim README file too, > while you're at it. Already done. It could use more TLC, though, if you ever have a chance. Al

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/sky Makefile.am,1.2,1.3

2003-03-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Michael Basler writes: > I know it would come. I recall the (justified) discussion on options to > disable certains FDMs in the build which would result in these FDMs soon > beeing out of sync and forgotten. I fear this will be the fate of the 3D > clouds (which I enjoyed very much), now. The FDM'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747-400 cruise information

2003-03-10 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: > From looking at the code Bless you, my brother. :) I promise I'll come back eventually. You'll probably want to check those notes into the YASim README file too, while you're at it. > I've discovered that YASim assumes a thrust-specific fuel > consumption of 0.8 by default

[Flightgear-devel] RE: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/sky Makefile.am,1.2,1.3

2003-03-10 Thread Michael Basler
Curt, > Remove 3d clouds from the default build. These can still be > built manually I know it would come. I recall the (justified) discussion on options to disable certains FDMs in the build which would result in these FDMs soon beeing out of sync and forgotten. I fear this will be the fate of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson writes: > Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > > > Could it be you have more then one gl.h file in your include path? > > > > No, there's just one "gl.h" unter /usr/. I believe it's a XFree86-4.3.0 > > chan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin Spott wrote: > > > Could it be you have more then one gl.h file in your include path? > > No, there's just one "gl.h" unter /usr/. I believe it's a XFree86-4.3.0 > change that shows up here. Browsing xfre

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Martin Spott
"Richard Bytheway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have editied .../simgear/sky/Makefile.am to remove clouds3d from the > DIRS line. Done that too - works fine for me, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > Could it be you have more then one gl.h file in your include path? No, there's just one "gl.h" unter /usr/. I believe it's a XFree86-4.3.0 change that shows up here. I first encountered this with a self compiled 4.3.0, now I'm running

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Hello, did anyone already encounter the following Error: [ directory simgear/sky/clouds3d/ ] g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../simgear -I../../.. -I/opt/gnu/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/FlightGear/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O3 -D_REENTRANT -c -o SkyTexture

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Richard Bytheway
I have editied .../simgear/sky/Makefile.am to remove clouds3d from the DIRS line. That stops it trying to build it very effectively, and is maintained on a cvs update. Richard > -Original Message- > From: Martin Spott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 March 2003 2:13 pm > To: [EMAIL P

[Flightgear-devel] C310 more stable

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
I found the C310 JSBSim model very unstable, so I've increased roll, pitch, and yaw damping -- please try it out and let me know what you think. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-dev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] P-51D

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: Jim Wilson wrote: On the Half & Half, do you have any other photos? Or higher res of the one on the web page? I probably could go ahead with the Half & Half if I had even just a picture of the nose area to get the isignia. Does this help any? It even contains a merlin eng

[Flightgear-devel] ANN: internal GPS support

2003-03-10 Thread David Megginson
I've started basic GPS support under in /instrumentation/gps/. Right now, the GPS publishes the following properties: /instrumentation/gps/raim /instrumentation/gps/indicated-latitude-deg /instrumentation/gps/indicated-altitude-ft /instrumentation/gps/indicated-track-true-deg /instrumentatio

[Flightgear-devel] Building SimGear against XFree86-4.3.0 packages

2003-03-10 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, did anyone already encounter the following Error: [ directory simgear/sky/clouds3d/ ] g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../simgear -I../../.. -I/opt/gnu/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/FlightGear/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O3 -D_REENTRANT -c -o SkyTextureState.o `test -f

RE: [Flightgear-devel] P-51D

2003-03-10 Thread Jon Berndt
> Not yet. It's possible that I don't have a current email address, but in > this case, not likely. He might just be on vacation. > > I did start the conversion (the easy part of it) and on closer > examination it > the model really isn't as great as I thought it was. So I've > started building

Re: [Flightgear-devel] P-51D

2003-03-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: On the Half & Half, do you have any other photos? Or higher res of the one on the web page? I probably could go ahead with the Half & Half if I had even just a picture of the nose area to get the isignia. Does this help any? It even contains a merlin engine sound file. Erik _

RE: [Flightgear-devel] P-51D

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > If it's not too much trouble, you might ask about "Mustang > > > Half & Half" that he also did. It's got the exact markings > > > of the P-51D I photogrpahed and incorporated into a lot of > > > our FlightGear and JSBSim artwork. See my airshow picture