Re: [Flightgear-devel] YF23 duplication

2004-03-26 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > There are 2 yf23 in the CVS base package. Is it normal ? I mean 2 yf23/YF-23 directories -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ornithopter cockpit

2004-03-26 Thread Michael Selig
At 3/24/2004, you wrote: It is far too late for this release, but I promised Michael some instruments for the Ornithopter a while back so I've committed what amounts a "rough start". It just affects the ornithopter directory and that seems to work so (hopefully) there will be no breakage. This is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Gunnstein Lye
On Friday 26 March 2004 00:33, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:28:23 -0500, Ethan wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What I've found is that as long as you make someone's product look > > good(or at least not bad) then they are happy. So as long as we make > > Boeings look a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Giles Robertson
Let's check the patent filing dates etc. Could just be that we have prior art. Can anybody get a date that nasal was originally committed? Giles Robertson > -Original Message- > From: Lee Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 March 2004 02:20 > To: FlightGear developers discussions

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Vivian Meazza
Giles Robertson wrote > > Let's check the patent filing dates etc. Could just be that > we have prior art. Can anybody get a date that nasal was > originally committed? > > Giles Robertson > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lee Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 26 March 20

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Giles Robertson wrote Let's check the patent filing dates etc. Could just be that we have prior art. Can anybody get a date that nasal was originally committed? We did this one a while back. I think the outcome was that it was all too late - the patent has been granted, bu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Mally
This issue came up with a vengence in 1999 when a certain Peter Tishma apparently persuaded American Airlines to grant him what he thought was an exclusive license for the use of all American Airlines owned logos on flight sim aircraft. You can read what happened next (very relevant to the current

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be a problem

2004-03-26 Thread Richard Bytheway
> -Original Message- > From: Mally > Sent: 26 March 2004 9:38 am > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trademark violations could be > a problem > > > This issue came up with a vengence in 1999 when a certain Peter Tishma > apparently persuaded America

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.9.4pre2 on Win2000/XP Problems with path ./C:

2004-03-26 Thread Michael Bölling
I have compiled 0.9.4pre2 on Windows 2000 with cygwin(not an easy task). (With plib 1.8.1 and simgear 0.3.5pre2) When I run flightgear (fgfs) I get the error message: ... WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open './C:/Programme/Flightgear-0.9.4pre2/data/Models/Geometry/glider .ac' for reading Fatal err

[Flightgear-devel] Re: lost shadows

2004-03-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
[for the archive] * Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 25 March 2004 13:16: > Shadows tend to not reappear once they had been culled away. Can I > somehow fix this in the model? (LOD related settings or something) Yes, I can. But not with the "range" animation, but with an (ugly) workaround: I've added a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YF23 duplication

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: There are 2 yf23 in the CVS base package. Is it normal ? We changed the name to YF-23, and I haven't figured out the best way to delete the old one. I'd like to just wipe it from cvs, but this would mean that everyone would have to hand edit some files in their cvs tr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YF23 duplication

2004-03-26 Thread Frederic BOUVIER
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > >There are 2 yf23 in the CVS base package. Is it normal ? > > > > > > We changed the name to YF-23, and I haven't figured out the best way to > delete the old one. I'd like to just wipe it from cvs, but this would > mean that everyone would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] YF23 duplication

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: There are 2 yf23 in the CVS base package. Is it normal ? We changed the name to YF-23, and I haven't figured out the best way to delete the old one. I'd like to just wipe it from cvs, but this would mean that everyone would have to hand edit som

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Ornithopter cockpit

2004-03-26 Thread Iain Dawson
Hi Michael, For what it's worth, the green box on the right of the cockpit is, I think, a control surface indicator. The top of the box is labelled 'stabilator'. I don't know what the red LED is for - maybe it's something like wing beats per minute!! Hope this helps, All the best Iain Dawson

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/bo105/Models > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv12689/Models > Modified Files: > bo105.ac bo105.xml > Added Files: > README bo105-1.rgb bo105.nas > Removed Files: > shadow.rgb > Log Message: > Melchior FRANZ:

[Flightgear-devel] Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Ilja Moderau
Hello everybody, I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. Screenshots: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg You can download it under: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154.zip This Tu-154 hasn´t got an own flight model, it is just a copy of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:02:09 +0100 (CET) Ilja Moderau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everybody, I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. Screenshots: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg You can download it under: http://mitglied.lycos.de/il

Re: [Flightgear-devel] applications for FGFS

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 10:15, Erik Hofman wrote: > Alex Perry wrote: > > I've been looking for some new FGFS applications, compared to two years > > ago, but none seem to be public ... as far as the website is concerned > > anyway. Do any of you know of some that you just haven't mentioned on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] applications for FGFS

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Oliver C. wrote: And Taxidraw, another usefull tool for Flightgear Development. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg19682.html Yes, but there's no official URL... Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flig

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Friday 26 March 2004 15:37: > Ha, there is a funny effect: Did you ever fly a loop which shadowing > enabled ? When I do this, I see the shadow flipping through the sky - > similar to a meteorite :-) Whoops ... I'll look into it, but I don't promise a solution. (You aren't suppo

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ilja Moderau -- Friday 26 March 2004 16:02: > I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. > Screenshots: > http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg > http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg Really beautiful! m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing li

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 16:57:34 +0100 Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Ilja Moderau -- Friday 26 March 2004 16:02: I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. Screenshots: http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg Really beautiful! It really i

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.4pre2 on Win2000/XP Problems with path ./C:

2004-03-26 Thread Michael Bölling
It seems that plib causes this error. I tested the flightgear root variable and that is o.k. In plib->ssgload.cxx I found: char* ssgLoaderOptions::make_path ( char* path, const char* dir, const char* fname ) const { if ( fname != NULL && fname [ 0 ] != '\0' ) { if ( ! ulIsAbsolutePa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/bo105/Models README, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Martin Spott -- Friday 26 March 2004 15:37: Ha, there is a funny effect: Did you ever fly a loop which shadowing enabled ? When I do this, I see the shadow flipping through the sky - similar to a meteorite :-) Whoops ... I'll look into it, but I don't promise a solution.

[Flightgear-devel] bo105: nav lights, beacons, strobes

2004-03-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Here's a screenshot of the bo105 with the now finished lights. Of course, you wouldn't easily see them all together. I cheated. ;-) All lights can be turned on/off via the common properties in /controls/lighting/, but as long as I don't have switches in the cockpit the nav lights will refuse to wor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] applications for FGFS

2004-03-26 Thread D Luff
On 26 Mar 2004 at 16:52, Erik Hofman wrote: > Oliver C. wrote: > > > And Taxidraw, another usefull tool for Flightgear Development. > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg19682.html > > > Yes, but there's no official URL... > Ah, yes, I've got a half-written homepage knocki

[Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I have a bit of time this afternoon so I'm going to try to get the "official" SimGear-0.3.5 and FlightGear-0.9.4 rolled out. I plan to give the mirrors a day or two to catch up and maybe hope for a windows build before make an official announcement. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson Intellige

Re: [Flightgear-devel] applications for FGFS

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Alex Perry wrote: I've been looking for some new FGFS applications, compared to two years ago, but none seem to be public ... as far as the website is concerned anyway. Do any of you know of some that you just haven't mentioned on the list yet ? These are the ones I have collected in the past: FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Oliver C. wrote: I also found out that we have in many menus an "ok" button and an "apply" button, for example like in the Weather conditions menu, but when i change something in the Weather condition menu, then i can press "ok" and then the change gets applied. But when pressing "ok" is enough

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 22:05, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I have a bit of time this afternoon so I'm going to try to get the > "official" SimGear-0.3.5 and FlightGear-0.9.4 rolled out. I plan to > give the mirrors a day or two to catch up and maybe hope for a windows > build before make an official

[Flightgear-devel] Announce: 0.9.4

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I'm holding off on the "official" announcement, but FG-0.9.4 (source) and SG-0.3.5 (source) and FG-0.9.4-base are now available for download. I'll make the official announcement in a day or two when the mirror sites sync up. Also, it would be nice to have an official window binary ready to go

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Oliver C. wrote: In my opinion Flightgear is not ready for the 0.9.4 release, there are still some small bugs in the latest cvs version that should be fixed before the release. For example in the File menu the "High-Res Snapshot" option is not working, it does nothing, a snapshot is not crea

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 > Added Files: > FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz > Log Message: > Official 0.9.4 release. Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well awar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release proces

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:35, Martin Spott wrote: > "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 > > > > Added Files: > > FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz > > Log Message: > > Official 0.9.4 release. > > Oooops, I wonder if we ever ge

Re: [Flightgear-devel] next release

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:13:59 +0100 "Oliver C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 26 March 2004 22:05, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I have a bit of time this afternoon so I'm going to try to get the "official" SimGear-0.3.5 and FlightGear-0.9.4 rolled out. I plan to give the mirrors a day or two to c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: releases

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 23:47:27 +0100 "Oliver C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I agree with that. The pre release version 0.9.4.pre2 was released on March 23.2004. This means that there were only 3 days time for testing t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:43, Erik Hofman wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a > > release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but > > on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announce: 0.9.4

2004-03-26 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 26 March 2004 23:24, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > I'm holding off on the "official" announcement, but FG-0.9.4 (source) > and SG-0.3.5 (source) and FG-0.9.4-base are now available for download. > I'll make the official announcement in a day or two when the mirror > sites sync up. Also, it wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project but on the other hand these surprisingly short pre-release stages make it very hard for peripheral efforts to keep up with the release proce

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a bit compressed, but I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:28:12 -0600 "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testing before a release. I'm very well aware that this is primarily Curt's project I apologize if the schedule was a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: releases FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz, NONE,

2004-03-26 Thread Jim Wilson
Martin Spott said: > "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/releases > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv13253 > > > Added Files: > > FlightGear-0.9.4.tar.gz > > Log Message: > > Official 0.9.4 release. > > Oooops, I wonder if we ever get the chance to do real testin

[Flightgear-devel] Outsider Opinion

2004-03-26 Thread Georg A. Vollnhals
Hi, I am observing this mailing list since some time because I am curious what is going on with Flight Gear. Since the very first versions available for Windows (1999?) I tested FG and have to tell you that you are doing a very good job, FG has improved very much in that time and much interesting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tu-154 / jsbsim beginner needs help

2004-03-26 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 26 March 2004 15:02, Ilja Moderau wrote: > Hello everybody, > I created my first aircraft - Tupolev 154. > Screenshots: > http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-1.jpg > http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154-2.jpg > > You can download it under: > http://mitglied.lycos.de/iljamod/tu154.zip

[Flightgear-devel] New YASim fuel code

2004-03-26 Thread Andy Ross
Now that the new release is out (yeah, that's my exuse...), I've finally checked in the new Nasal fuel code I've been working on, along with YASim changes to enable it. This hasn't been tested terribly well, so please let me know if I broke something. You should be able to set the /consumables/fu