On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:48:37 -0600, Curtis wrote in message
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> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > ..how much size growth, compared to the (0.9.7?) last scenery?
> > (url to the new?)
>
> I haven't really started building a lot of tiles yet. I'm still hung
> up on a shapefile pro
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:24:21 +0200 (IST), Vassilii wrote in message
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> > > Yep, but sipmly _delaying_ the next release doesn't cure anything.
> > > This only makes sense if the developers agree on a feature freeze
> > > and announce a bugfix-only phase.
> >
> > ..or if it can
On Sun, 2005-11-13 at 03:51 +0200, Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
> > Just a suggestion:
> > Maybe it is a good idea to put some of the important rules on the
> > http://www.flightgear.org/mail.html webpage so people can read them, before
> > they subscribe to the mailinglists.
>
> Good idea, in case
> Just a suggestion:
> Maybe it is a good idea to put some of the important rules on the
> http://www.flightgear.org/mail.html webpage so people can read them, before
> they subscribe to the mailinglists.
Good idea, in case someone really is annoyed with top-posts/encodes etc.
Such folks are welco
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:11:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I should also point out that the next scenery build (which is
happening concurrent to the v0.9.9 release and causing my head to
spin 3x faster than normal (not factoring in beer)) will be
On Saturday 12 November 2005 21:48, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Martin Spott -- Saturday 12 November 2005 21:33:
> > You know as good as I do that by common practice encoded emails don't
> > belong into mailing lists -
>
> Sure, just like HTML, top-posting, full-quoting, Yet it happens. I
> tell
> > Yep, but sipmly _delaying_ the next release doesn't cure anything.
> > This only makes sense if the developers agree on a feature freeze and
> > announce a bugfix-only phase.
>
> ..or if it can be enforced somehow. ;o)
or that a separate branch is created for the feature freeze while the
deve
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:32:22 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Erik Hofman wrote:
> > Martin Spott wrote:
>
> >> We know exactly this phenomenon for several years now and to
> >my
> [...]
> >> supporters for this idea.
>
> > Guess why the next release is 0.9.9 and not
> Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
> Possible Cause: No error
This makes me report the following seemingly related sighting
that I had today in the middle of something else, w/o exploring it until
the end (I did mention it on the IRC earlier today).
I've seen a couple of "Failed to
On November 11, 2005 07:26 pm, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
> I am also getting GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest error. This is so darn
> annoying!
>
> I used to be able to get around this problem by migrating back to XFree, or
> failing that, start XServer under 16-bit depth. Now, I can't go with
> ei
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:11:00 -0600, Curtis wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I should also point out that the next scenery build (which is
> happening concurrent to the v0.9.9 release and causing my head to
> spin 3x faster than normal (not factoring in beer)) will be based on
> this d
hi everyone
i compiled flightgear with studio net 2003 . But when i execute the program
says
Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting...
Possible Cause: No error
after i compiled fg ,it gaves me freeglut error then i switch to vers 2.2
from 2.4.
Then it says i am using 9.8 base data v
Stefan Seifert wrote:
Topposting makes only more sense, when you are too lazy to quote
selectively instead of just quoting the whole mail (probably including
signatures and ads...). And to have some context is not only nice when
reading through an archive, but also when reading a lot of mail e
> I am unable to get 3d clouds with todays CVS for FlightGear and data and
> SimGear. I am running via fgrun and 3D clouds is checked and
> --enable-clouds3d is in the list under the "show command line" window.
> I also ran fgfs from the command line with --enable-clouds3d and still
> no 3D clouds
Alex Perry wrote:
From: Martin Spott
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
Maybe some German-speaking user could point the reporters to Atlas
for the moving map solution they describe as absent [...]
I probably would do, but I don't have any experience with Atlas at all,
so I'm unable to
George Patterson wrote:
> "Hi, It looks like you are trying to pilot a plane. Would you like to...
>
> or Restart all systems"
>
> a few seconds later..
>
> "Okay... restarting all systems.."
You know that something similar _really _happened to one V-22 Osprey !?
They have hydraulics for ever
I am unable to get 3d clouds with todays CVS for FlightGear and data and
SimGear. I am running via fgrun and 3D clouds is checked and
--enable-clouds3d is in the list under the "show command line" window.
I also ran fgfs from the command line with --enable-clouds3d and still
no 3D clouds. In
Martin Spott wrote:
>> ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/BaseObjects.tgz
Acccording to my tests this package is indeed ready for inclusion,
Martin.
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On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 19:31 +, Jon Stockill wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
>
> > How about a spyware popup ... Oh I see you just typed the word Paris,
> > here are some great hotel + airfare combinations you might be interested
> > in, and would you like me to search ebay for berets?
>
> N
From: Martin Spott
> Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
> > Maybe some German-speaking user could point the reporters to Atlas
> > for the moving map solution they describe as absent [...]
> I probably would do, but I don't have any experience with Atlas at all,
> so I'm unable to give appropriate respons
Jeff McBride wrote:
This one is a little lost on me. I understand why quoting whole
messages, and using HTML or
various encoding schemes can be a nuisance, but to me it is easier to
write and read replies at the top of the old message. I suppose if you
are looking back in an archive, it might m
Jeff McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 11/12/05, Arthur Wiebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> adjustment. So what is the argument here against "topposting"?
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
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On 11/12/05, Arthur Wiebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, oops what's wrong with topposting? ;)
>
Ok, I'm sorry to extend a very off-topic discussion, but here I go anyway...
This one is a little lost on me. I understand why quoting whole
messages, and using HTML or
various encoding schemes ca
Hi,
I'm trying to compile pre-rel-3 in MSVC 7 but i'm running into a
linking problem again. It looks to me like simgear is unable to read
the openAL header files while trying to link. I have put them in the
sound_mngr directory and modified the include statements to read it
directly from there,
> I probably would do, but I don't have any experience with Atlas at all,
> so I'm unable to give appropriate response to the questions that I
> suppose will follow
It's pretty straightforward, just give it a try following the WWW
instructions. Be sure to use the CVS version and not the last
Martin Spott wrote:
> Hello Melchior,
>
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>
>
>>This is very standard base64 encoding. Every semi-decent mailer should
>>be able to display this. Of course, it would be better in readable
>>ASCII, but I wouldn't say it's crap. Your mailer *is* crap! :-P
>
>
> You know as
* Martin Spott -- Saturday 12 November 2005 21:33:
> You know as good as I do that by common practice encoded emails don't
> belong into mailing lists -
Sure, just like HTML, top-posting, full-quoting, Yet it happens. I tell
people once to follow the rules, but if they don't and don't have an
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
> Maybe some German-speaking user could point the reporters to Atlas
> for the moving map solution they describe as absent [...]
I probably would do, but I don't have any experience with Atlas at all,
so I'm unable to give appropriate response to the questions that I
su
Yeah, oops what's wrong with topposting? ;)
On 11/12/05, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Curtis L. Olson -- Saturday 12 November 2005 21:03:
> > Hey, what's wrong with "ed /var/mail/curt" ...
>
> Hey, and what's wrong with "mimencode -u" and "recode utf8:latin1"?
>
> As I said: it wo
On 11/12/05, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Melchior,
>
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>
> > This is very standard base64 encoding. Every semi-decent mailer should
> > be able to display this. Of course, it would be better in readable
> > ASCII, but I wouldn't say it's crap. Your mailer *
* Curtis L. Olson -- Saturday 12 November 2005 21:03:
> Hey, what's wrong with "ed /var/mail/curt" ...
Hey, and what's wrong with "mimencode -u" and "recode utf8:latin1"?
As I said: it would be nicer in ASCII, but base64 isn't an offense,
unlike HTML, fullquoting, topposting, which are the real a
Hello Melchior,
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> This is very standard base64 encoding. Every semi-decent mailer should
> be able to display this. Of course, it would be better in readable
> ASCII, but I wouldn't say it's crap. Your mailer *is* crap! :-P
You know as good as I do that by common practice
Jon Stockill wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
>
>> How about a spyware popup ... Oh I see you just typed the word Paris,
>> here are some great hotel + airfare combinations you might be
>> interested in, and would you like me to search ebay for berets?
>
>
> No, not spyware - clippy :-)
>
> Jon
On 11/12/05, Curtis L. Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Melchior FRANZ wrote:
>
> >* Martin Spott -- Saturday 12 November 2005 20:43:
> >
> >
> >>>Z2h0Z2Vhci1kZXZlbAo+IDJmNTg1ZWVlYTAyZTJjNzlkN2IxZDhjNDk2M2JhZTJkCj4KCgoKLS0K
> >>>PEFydGh1ci8+Ci0gaHR0cDovL3NvdXJjZWZvcmdlLm5ldC91c2Vycy9hcnRvb3JvLwot
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Martin Spott -- Saturday 12 November 2005 20:43:
Z2h0Z2Vhci1kZXZlbAo+IDJmNTg1ZWVlYTAyZTJjNzlkN2IxZDhjNDk2M2JhZTJkCj4KCgoKLS0K
PEFydGh1ci8+Ci0gaHR0cDovL3NvdXJjZWZvcmdlLm5ldC91c2Vycy9hcnRvb3JvLwotIGh0dHA6
Ly9hcnRvb3JvLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbQo=
So, why are you posting
* Martin Spott -- Saturday 12 November 2005 20:43:
> > Z2h0Z2Vhci1kZXZlbAo+IDJmNTg1ZWVlYTAyZTJjNzlkN2IxZDhjNDk2M2JhZTJkCj4KCgoKLS0K
> > PEFydGh1ci8+Ci0gaHR0cDovL3NvdXJjZWZvcmdlLm5ldC91c2Vycy9hcnRvb3JvLwotIGh0dHA6
> > Ly9hcnRvb3JvLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbQo=
>
> So, why are you posting this crap ? Please s
Arthur, can you read _this_ ?
Arthur Wiebe wrote:
[...]
> SSd2ZSBiZWVuIHVzaW5nIFhjb2RlIDIuMiBmb3Igc29tZSB0aW1lIG5vdyBidWlsZGluZyBGbGln
> aHRnZWFyIGFuZApldmVyeXRoaW5nIGVsc2UuIFByZXZpZXcgYnVpbGRzIHVudGlsIG5vdyBvZiBj
> b3Vyc2UuCgpCeSB0aGUgd2F5IFhjb2RlIHByb2plY3RzIHlvdSBjYW4gdXNlIHRvIGJ1aWxkIFBM
> SUI
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
How about a spyware popup ... Oh I see you just typed the word Paris,
here are some great hotel + airfare combinations you might be interested
in, and would you like me to search ebay for berets?
No, not spyware - clippy :-)
Jon
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Stefan Seifert wrote:
Martin Spott wrote:
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote:
On another note, this was taken in Singapore recently:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/957790/L/
Compare to what we have in FlightGear now:
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgf
Stefan Seifert wrote:
> Martin Spott wrote:
>
>> "Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On another note, this was taken in Singapore recently:
>>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/957790/L/
>>>
>>> Compare to what we have in FlightGear now:
>>> http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-
Sorry Martin. I never received an email from you. It may have gone into spam.But sure. No encoded email from me anymore.On 11/12/05, Martin Spott <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Arthur Wiebe wrote:
[...]> SSBhZ3JlZSB3aXRoIEphbWVzLiBJJ3ZlIGJlZW4gdXNpbmcgdGhlIC0tb3Blbi13aXRoIG9wdGlvAs Arthur obviously dec
On November 12, 2005 01:50 pm, Martin Spott wrote:
> You might want to ignore the two Windows PeeCees for your model ;-)
>
> Martin.
Yes, I notice that, too.
Ampere
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Martin Spott wrote:
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote:
On another note, this was taken in Singapore recently:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/957790/L/
Compare to what we have in FlightGear now:
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-005.jpg
You might want to ignore the two Wi
Dave Culp wrote:
> Dent: .Dent: ..Dent: EHAMopening
[...]
> I don't know what the Dent stuff is.
I think tis is Directory ENTry. There is a "." in this subdir, there is
a ".." and there is "EHAM" :-)
Martin.
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Arthur Wiebe wrote:
[...]
> SSBhZ3JlZSB3aXRoIEphbWVzLiBJJ3ZlIGJlZW4gdXNpbmcgdGhlIC0tb3Blbi13aXRoIG9wdGlv
As Arthur obviously decided to ignore private mail on this topic I
think I'd post my comment on the list:
Could we please agree not to post encoded EMail on this list !?!
Thanks,
Marti
"Ampere K. Hardraade" wrote:
> On another note, this was taken in Singapore recently:
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/957790/L/
>
> Compare to what we have in FlightGear now:
> http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-005.jpg
You might want to ignore the two Windows PeeCees for your
Martin Spott wrote:
> ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/BaseObjects.tgz
O.k., there is a new file, please check it out - and put it into the
base package if you think it is correct :-)
Martin.
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* Ampere K. Hardraade -- Saturday 12 November 2005 19:31:
> You can get SDL and use the --enable-sdl flag when running configure for
> FlightGear.
Which also fixes repeatable keys. freeglut is neither compatible with
SDL nor with legacy glut.
m.
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On November 12, 2005 01:10 pm, Alex Perry wrote:
> Debian is packaging 2.4.0 under the name "freeglut3".
> Is there a specific upstream release that contains the fix,
> so that I can file a bug against the existing package ?
> Otherwise, Debian will be unable to build a current FGFS release.
You ca
Alex Perry wrote:
From: "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Alex Perry wrote:
freeglut ERROR: Function called \
without first calling 'glutInit'.
Hey Alex, this has been a 'common' issue that has bit a lot of people.
There appears to be a problem with freeglut 2.4
From: "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Alex Perry wrote:
> >freeglut ERROR: Function called \
> > without first calling 'glutInit'.
>
> Hey Alex, this has been a 'common' issue that has bit a lot of people.
> There appears to be a problem with freeglut 2.4. The solution has been
>
> OK, is there a way to get sensible-browser at compile time? Is this a
> link know to the OS or something? is it callable or does it need to be
> read on Debian somewhere?
It's a callable standard script on debian.
It tries various intelligent decisions to guess what browser to run.
It is pretty
* Stewart Andreason -- Saturday 12 November 2005 18:00:
> 1. when running flightgear, press [ESC] , then [TAB] (intending to move
> the cursor to the cancel button)
Cycling widget focus with TAB is not implemented, and never was.
> instead the instrument settings dialog comes up. ok. But: I can
I've noticed a few bugs to report,
1. when running flightgear, press [ESC] , then [TAB] (intending to move
the cursor to the cancel button)
instead the instrument settings dialog comes up. ok. But: I can not press
the Close button or click in the text fields, instead I can only click on
the exit w
Hey Erik, I may sound like I know what I'm doing sometimes but I really don't. :)Nevertheless I'll add some printf statements and see what happens. I suppose it should be done in the ImageGetRow implementation.
On 11/12/05, Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Arthur Wiebe wrote:> I think this re
On another note, this was taken in Singapore recently:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/957790/L/
Compare to what we have in FlightGear now:
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-005.jpg
Ampere
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Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I've just implemented the check for stale METAR reports (to stop
fetching after 10 stale reports). This triggers an assert in
SGThread:
fgfs: /usr/local/include/simgear/threads/SGThread.hxx:155:
void SGThread::join(): Assertion `status == 0' failed.
I don't know much
Arthur and Vassilii,
Even though I couldn't fix it, I'm glad I got smarter minds to think about it! 8-)
OK, is there a way to get sensible-browser at compile time? Is this a link know to the OS or something? is it callable or does it need to be read on Debian somewhere?
>this is also wrong be
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
It looks to me that this will be a recurrent issue following 0.9.9 release
as well. Can an autoconf guru please add a relevant check into the
configuration scripts?
I see that freeglut-2.2 defines FREEGLUT_VERSION_2_0 = 1
Can anyonen with freeglut-2.4 look and s
> Vassilii Khachaturov wrote:
> I am unsure it is OK to through a temporary object like this.
> It's created on the stack right there at the same frame where it's thrown,
> but IIRC, as throw unwinds the stack, it is auto-destructed. You should
> be throwing an object that has lifetime encompassin
> Here's what I'm doing:
>
> In the Table class:
>
> In FGTable constructor:
>
> if (operation_types.find(parent_type) == string::npos) {
> internal = true;
> } else {
> throw(string("An internal table cannot be ..."));
> }
>
> Now, this seems to work OK - I throw an exception if a situation
>
I've been using Xcode 2.2 for some time now building Flightgear and everything else. Preview builds until now of course.By the way Xcode projects you can use to build PLIB, Simgear, and FlightGear are available now. I've polished them up so they should be ready.
If you're interested I'll commit the
In the macflightgear binary I've been passing "--browser-app=open" to fgfs. This opens the url in the default browser. For me that's Firefox.Your patch could be changed to something like this:Index: FlightGear/src/Main/options
.cxx===R
I've just implemented the check for stale METAR reports (to stop
fetching after 10 stale reports). This triggers an assert in
SGThread:
fgfs: /usr/local/include/simgear/threads/SGThread.hxx:155:
void SGThread::join(): Assertion `status == 0' failed.
I don't know much about threads. Could som
To fix the build break you need to patch:
Index: FlightGear/src/Time/sunsolver.cxx===RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Time/sunsolver.cxx,vretrieving revision 1.6diff -u -r1.6 sunsolver.cxx--- FlightGear/src/Time/suns
Maybe some German-speaking user could point the reporters to Atlas
for the moving map solution they describe as absent (and to the new
Pigeon's map!)
V.
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On things like Debian, this is also wrong because "sensible-browser"
should be used instead. Is there some autoconf library function to
discover the most likely browser on a system?
Also the WIN32 section in src/GUI/gui_funcs.cxx with the 1024-long
hardcoded buffers can be a crash trigger when the
> >$ fgfs
> >opening file: /usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat
> >/usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat
> >RenderTexture Error: glXCreateGLXPbufferPtr() failed.
> >Initialising callsign using 'Aircraft/c172p/Models/c172p.xml'
> >freeglut (fgfs): Failed to create cursor
Installing the new xcode 2.2 software on mac os 10.4.3 took about 50
minutes. (During which I did a make clean 8-) of plib, simgear and
flightgear)
Rebuilding plib, simgear and flightgear (latest cvs around 1pm gmt)
took about one hour.
Running fgfs, I get an abend:
OpenAL error (AL_INVA
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 22:43 -0500, Josh Babcock wrote:
> Curtis L. Olson wrote:
> > George Patterson wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Andy.
> >>
> >> I just completed a nice flight from KSFO to KLAX with 3D clouds turned
> >> on. Mistakenly misread 25L as being 24L.
> >> George
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Ooops, s
Arthur Wiebe wrote:
I think this report basically pins down two of my problems.
First, where spash screens on startup showed up as strange color stipes.
And second, where certain aircraft which define their own spash screen
crash fgfs.
I got this report when trying to load the c310 (pre3).
Ho
Pigeon wrote:
Figured out the problem with ATIS voice. It's in SimGear with the
code for OpenAL/Alut 1.1, whereby with in sample_openal.cxx,
alutCreateBufferFromFile() does not give us the raw sound data, and
ATCVoice depends on it, which leaves the data and the data size
uninitialized.
Goo
Dave Culp wrote:
The message:
WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open
'/home/dave/FlightGear-0.9.9-pre2/data/Aircraft/c172r/Models/c172-dpm.ac' for
reading
I've already fixed this by referencing the default c172p instead.
Erik
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Jeff McBride wrote:
Hello All,
I am considering using a property tree similar to that in Flightgear
for a UAV ground control application, and I have a question for the
developers on the list. Has anyone ever looked into creating a system
to share a common property tree between two computers over
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