RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/12/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig > > >With this version day does turn to night, after a short period of > >flying. I know this is being discussed in another thread. > >FYI >speeding time up momentarily will turn the lights on to > >'t' key followed by 'T' key > >A real fix is in the pipe. >

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Norman Vine
Michael Selig >With this version day does turn to night, after a short period of >flying. I know this is being discussed in another thread. FYI speeding time up momentarily will turn the lights on to 't' key followed by 'T' key A real fix is in the pipe. Norman __

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/12/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig writes: > > > When I start up I see this: > > http://amber.aae.uiuc.edu/~m-selig/tmp/beech.gif > >Yes, it looks like your gear code isn't holding the plane above the >ground, so it's resting at its origin. When I try > > fgfs --aircraft=c172-uiuc > >using

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/12/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig writes: > > > When I start up I see this: > > http://amber.aae.uiuc.edu/~m-selig/tmp/beech.gif > >Yes, it looks like your gear code isn't holding the plane above the >ground, so it's resting at its origin. When I try > > fgfs --aircraft=c172-uiuc > >using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: > I think we've always used +z up. YASim uses +z down internally, if > I recall correctly, but that shouldn't affect anything else. Heh, actually... YASim is +z up too. For the record, the YASim internal aircraft coordinate frame: + Take your right hand. + Point your

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread David Megginson
Michael Selig writes: > When I start up I see this: > http://amber.aae.uiuc.edu/~m-selig/tmp/beech.gif Yes, it looks like your gear code isn't holding the plane above the ground, so it's resting at its origin. When I try fgfs --aircraft=c172-uiuc using the UIUC files currently in the base

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/12/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig writes: > > Using our FGFS CVS checkout (Simgear, flightsim, fgfsbase) from 4/7/02 + > > our own uiuc mods, I just remade/installed Simgear and remade fgfs, and I > > still get this problem. > > > > Besides Norman and all of us at UIUC, are other people seeing

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Michael Selig writes: > Using our FGFS CVS checkout (Simgear, flightsim, fgfsbase) from 4/7/02 + > our own uiuc mods, I just remade/installed Simgear and remade fgfs, and I > still get this problem. > > Besides Norman and all of us at UIUC, are other people seeing UIUC and > LaRCsim models bel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/12/02, you wrote: >David Megginson writes: > > > >Michael Selig writes: > > > > > ... while all these wonderful *uiuc-set.xml airplanes are now being > > > buried alive, I have a few simple questions (multiple choice): > > > >I cannot reproduce your problem -- with yesterday evening's CVS, I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread Norman Vine
David Megginson writes: > >Michael Selig writes: > > > ... while all these wonderful *uiuc-set.xml airplanes are now being > > buried alive, I have a few simple questions (multiple choice): > >I cannot reproduce your problem -- with yesterday evening's CVS, I see >a C172 sitting nicely on top of t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread David Megginson
Michael Selig writes: > ... while all these wonderful *uiuc-set.xml airplanes are now being > buried alive, I have a few simple questions (multiple choice): I cannot reproduce your problem -- with yesterday evening's CVS, I see a C172 sitting nicely on top of the runway with any of the followi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-12 Thread David Megginson
Bruce Finney writes: > The convention for moving models for flight simulation visual system > is for the origin to be at the CG location for aircraft models. That would be problematic, since (as Jon and others have pointed out) the CG isn't fixed. In JSBSim, we take any arbitrary reference po

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Selig
... while all these wonderful *uiuc-set.xml airplanes are now being buried alive, I have a few simple questions (multiple choice): What is the variable that dictates where the little green HUD center dot goes? (OK, things in the uiuc_gear code have an effect on this mystery variable, but the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-11 Thread Jon Berndt
> The convention for moving models for flight simulation visual system > is for the origin to be at the CG location for aircraft models. The The *initial* CG location? The CG location can change. Jon smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-11 Thread Alex Perry
> The convention for moving models for flight simulation visual system > is for the origin to be at the CG location for aircraft models. The > coordinate system that we use on our "heavy iron" visual system is +y > out the nose, +x to the right and +z up. For an industry disertation on > the subj

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-11 Thread Bruce Finney
The convention for moving models for flight simulation visual system is for the origin to be at the CG location for aircraft models. The coordinate system that we use on our "heavy iron" visual system is +y out the nose, +x to the right and +z up. For an industry disertation on the subject there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/10/02, you wrote: >Michael Selig wrote: > > I can ask this differently. What sets the height above the runway of > > the hud-ladder target spot (wrt the 3D model view) --- ie the center > > spot? For c310-yasim and c172-larcsim, it's above the runway. For > > UIUC models, it's below the ru

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-10 Thread Andy Ross
Michael Selig wrote: > I can ask this differently. What sets the height above the runway of > the hud-ladder target spot (wrt the 3D model view) --- ie the center > spot? For c310-yasim and c172-larcsim, it's above the runway. For > UIUC models, it's below the runway (a recent change). Whe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-09 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/10/02, you wrote: >Apparently something has changed w/ the z-placement of the model on the >runway. With the recent CVS, my models are now sitting below the runway >and I can only see (sometimes) the tops of the airplanes. In my >*-model.xml files, this was working: > > > -.2 > -.6

[Flightgear-devel] UIUC planes below runway (current CVS)

2002-04-09 Thread Michael Selig
Apparently something has changed w/ the z-placement of the model on the runway. With the recent CVS, my models are now sitting below the runway and I can only see (sometimes) the tops of the airplanes. In my *-model.xml files, this was working: -.2 -.6 0 Now to get the models