[Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Recently a very kind person donated some hardware to upgrade the flightgear web/cvs/ftp/rsync/cvs server. I am respecting their wishes to remain anonymous which is why I've avoided any hoopla. However, in the next few days/weeks(?) I plan to start migrating services over. Complicating this is a c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Recently a very kind person donated some hardware to upgrade the > flightgear web/cvs/ftp/rsync/cvs server. I am respecting their wishes > to remain anonymous which is why I've avoided any hoopla. Aw, c'mon. Can't we have just a little hoopla? I hate anonymous donations

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Andy Ross writes: > Curtis L. Olson wrote: > > Recently a very kind person donated some hardware to upgrade the > > flightgear web/cvs/ftp/rsync/cvs server. I am respecting their wishes > > to remain anonymous which is why I've avoided any hoopla. > > Aw, c'mon. Can't we have just a little hoopl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Martin Spott
> I haven't given any thought to soliciting bandwidth donations > recently. However, that is a very good idea. My sense is that FTP is > what kills me here. It would be great if we could move the "official" > ftp site to somewhere with higher bandwidth which could handle a lot > more concurrent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott writes: > Which bandwidth, how many concurrent user connections do you consider as > 'useful' ? During day time hours I've been limiting it to 7 concurrent connections. Here are the ftp stats: http://seneca.me.umn.edu/stats/ftp/ Looks like we are averaging just over 7Gb transfe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:55:50 -0600, "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I haven't given any thought to soliciting bandwidth donations > recently. However, that is a very good idea. My sense is that FTP is > what kills me here. It would be great if w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...

2002-11-26 Thread Martin Spott
> During day time hours I've been limiting it to 7 concurrent > connections. Here are the ftp stats: [...] > Looks like we are averaging just over 7Gb transfered a day ... What about a round-robin dispatcher over all known the mirrors that exist nowadays ? I'd offer to run a complete mirror for t

[Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Heads up aircraft designers! I just committed a fairly significant change to both fgfs source and data CVS repositories. This is another step towards making aircraft self contained in their own subdirectory. The end goals is to be able to install / remove / distribute aircraft that are entirely

[Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Code reorganization

2005-11-01 Thread Erik Hofman
In the process of changing, adding and removing files the last few years there was the situation where four directories contained just two files, of which three directories were aircraft related, and one directory contained test code from Curt that might be better of in SimGear anyhow. This i

[Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Bernie Bright has submitted a simplified boost distribution for SimGear and I have committed it to CVS. The boost web page is here: http://www.boost.org/ We will begin depending on this package soon. We are treating it in the same way we treat the zlib and metakit libraries. It is another

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Matevz Jekovec
We might also want to start thinking of an official organization hierarchy such as: Aircraft/ LightSingles/ JetFighters/ CommercialJets/ CommercialTurboProps/ Bombers/ WWI/ WWII/ SailPlanes/ Experimental/ For modern military aircrafts, I would make the following hierarchy: - Fighter (m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Innis Cunningham
Not to forget the prop liners before the jets. Also by the by is there any intention of updating to 9.3 in the near future.Just asking to see whats in the pipe line Cheers Innis "Curtis L. Olson" writes > We might also want to start thinking of an official organization hierarchy such as: Aircra

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:29:48 +0200 Matevz Jekovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For modern military aircrafts, I would make the following hierarchy: > - Fighter (most of F-xx, Rafale, MiG-s, Sukhoi-s) > - Attack (A-10, Harrier, Tornado, Mirage 2000, my J-22, Su-25) > - Bomber (F-117, B-1, B-2, B-52

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 20 September 2003 17:45, Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:29:48 +0200 > Matevz Jekovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For modern military aircrafts, I would make the following hierarchy: > > - Fighter (most of F-xx, Rafale, MiG-s, Sukhoi-s) > > - Attack (A-10, Harr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:29:48 +0200 Matevz Jekovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For modern military aircrafts, I would make the following hierarchy: - Fighter (most of F-xx, Rafale, MiG-s, Sukhoi-s) - Attack (A-10, Harrier, Tornado, Mirage 2000, my J-22, Su

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread JD Fenech
I know this is slightly off topic, but what is the possibility of having a "one aircraft, one file" type configuration. The idea is basically to put all of the requisite files for a particular aircraft into some kind of archive file, such as a tarball, and then drop the archives into one direct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
JD Fenech writes: > I know this is slightly off topic, but what is the possibility of having > a "one aircraft, one file" type configuration. The idea is basically to > put all of the requisite files for a particular aircraft into some kind > of archive file, such as a tarball, and then drop the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Jon Berndt
> That's good. Maybe a more generic Historical category would be > useful? Don't all of our aircraft fit into that category? :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread Jim Wilson
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Two areas of concern. There are about 40 variations on the c172 and > about 20 variations on the c310 with different incantations and > aliases and various conglomerations of yasim, jsbsim, 3d cockpits, 2d > cockpits, etc. etc. etc. This was kind of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-20 Thread kreuzritter2000
> We might also want to start thinking of an official organization > hierarchy such as: > > Aircraft/ > LightSingles/ > JetFighters/ > CommercialJets/ > CommercialTurboProps/ > Bombers/ > WWI/ > WWII/ > SailPlanes/ > Experimental/ > > Regards, > > Curt. Are there any plans for he

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-21 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any plans for helicopters, rockets, ballons and airships? The X-15 is considered a rocket. Also I've collected some NACA flight data documents of the U.S.S. Los Angles. I haven't had time to construct a JSBSim configuration files for this airship but I think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 21 September 2003 08:35, Erik Hofman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Are there any plans for helicopters, rockets, ballons and airships? > > > The X-15 is considered a rocket. > > Also I've collected some NACA flight data documents of the U.S.S. Los > Angles. I haven't had ti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-21 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Curt wrote: >This is another step towards making aircraft >self contained in their own subdirectory. The end goals is to be able >to install / remove / distribute aircraft that are entirely contained >in their own subdirectory tree making things easier on everyone >[hopefully]. :-) Sounds good :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-21 Thread Nick
- Original Message - From: Lee Elliott To: FlightGear developers discussions Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg On Sunday 21 September 2003 08:35, Erik Hofman wrote:> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:&

RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up - aircraft reorg

2003-09-21 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > That's good. Maybe a more generic Historical category would be > > useful? > > Don't all of our aircraft fit into that category? > > :-) Well I suppose you could call anything that isn't built any more historical, but for the most part the term see

[Flightgear-devel] Heads up for base package location

2004-06-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi, I've checked in a change that changes the location of FlightGear's base package from /lib/FlightGear to /share/FlightGear I think this is the really the right location for the base package. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Christian Mayer
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > Bernie Bright has submitted a simplified boost distribution for > SimGear and I have committed it to CVS. The boost web page is here: > > http://www.boost.org/ > > We will begin depending on this package soon. Well, *I* don't really understand what boost is u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Tony Peden
--- Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > > > Bernie Bright has submitted a simplified boost > distribution for > > SimGear and I have committed it to CVS. The boost > web page is here: > > > > http://www.boost.org/ > > > > We will begin depending on th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hopefully Bernie Bright can address this, although he is running on Australian time so I don't know how soon we'll here from him. Curt. Tony Peden writes: > > --- Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > > > > > Bernie Bright has submitted a simplified boost

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:03:33 -0600 (CST) "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hopefully Bernie Bright can address this, although he is running on >Australian time so I don't know how soon we'll here from him. I looked at it a few weeks ago and tossed out the idea that it might be usefu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:03:33 -0600 (CST) > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hopefully Bernie Bright can address this, although he is running on > >Australian time so I don't know how soon we'll here from him. > > I looked at it a few weeks ago and tossed out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Christian Mayer
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > Jon S Berndt writes: > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:03:33 -0600 (CST) > > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hopefully Bernie Bright can address this, although he is running on > > >Australian time so I don't know how soon we'll here from him. > > > > I lo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:18:02 -0600 (CST) "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jon S Berndt writes: >Bernie wanted this included so he could rewrite the >flightgear event manager class to be a bit more flexible. > >I'm usually not an advocate of jumping on the hype bandwagon because >it

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > >Jon S Berndt writes: >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:03:33 -0600 (CST) >> "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Hopefully Bernie Bright can address this, although he is running on >> >Australian time so I don't know how soon we'll here from him. >> >> I looked at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 23:26:06 +0200 Christian Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And IMHO an additional dependancy might be much worse than a event >manager that's a bit more flexible. But I don't know yet. That's what I thought initially. But, I guess I shouldn't rain on Bernie's parade and so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:36:18 -0500 "Norman Vine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Boost has lots of good stuff and FWIW the Boost team does a >VERY good job of insuring compiler, STL and machine independance >see the compiler, platform and stdlib subdirectories in >the distribution Yes, they appea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: Boost - http://www.boost.org/

2002-04-04 Thread Bernie Bright
Christian Mayer wrote: > > "Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > > > > Bernie Bright has submitted a simplified boost distribution for > > SimGear and I have committed it to CVS. The boost web page is here: > > > > http://www.boost.org/ > > > > We will begin depending on this package soon. > > Well, *

somewhat OT (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up ...)

2002-11-26 Thread The Tone'ster
you know, i've been thinking about the nature of bandwidth, storage and mirrors as it relates to open source for a while as I've seen bandwidth and mirroring discussions before. i wanted to throw some thoughts out there to this group ... just for fun. feel free to care or not ... it occurs to

[Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Wilson
It occurred to me that our 3-D modelers might not all be running plib cvs. Andy came up with an excellent improvement to the ac3d loader/optimizer (new optimizer actually) that incorporates logic to automatically split vertices in two so that they go into seperate normal calculations (averages).

[Flightgear-devel] Heads up! GPS output property names have changed

2004-03-22 Thread Jim Wilson
The autopilot is broken, and who knows what else because someone decided to rename some of the properties being written by the GPS module. This isn't a serious problem but the change hasn't been announced here or even mentioned in the cvs log. Anyway, this is the announcement we should have gotte

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: For the time being though, I propose that we try to get this default angle to a higher value. From my testing 61 degrees seems to be a good number. 61 degrees means that a 6 sided cylinder will be smoothed. Anything less (e.g. 4 or 5 sides) will be sharp sided. Many of the a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: For the time being though, I propose that we try to get this default angle to a higher value. From my testing 61 degrees seems to be a good number. 61 degrees means that a 6 sided cylinder will be smoothed. Anything less (e.g. 4 or 5 sides) will be sharp sided. Many of the a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Andy Ross
Erik Hofman wrote: > I think it really is time to make that a configuration option in the > animation configuration file. That would require s patch for plib, but > it allows the simple "random" scenery objects to go untouched and look > nice also (while preserving the simplicity of the model). Ah

RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson > It occurred to me that our 3-D modelers might not all be > running plib cvs. > Andy came up with an excellent improvement to the ac3d > loader/optimizer (new optimizer actually) that incorporates > logic to automatically split vertices in two so that they go > into seperate

RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Wilson
Vivian Meazza said: > > We seem to have jumped into something without really thinking it through. > Pity. We need to implement something like the AC3D 'crease' sooner rather > than later. > > Regards Well, imo Andy Colebourne is a crook so you won't be seeing an upgrade to the loader coming fr

RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim wrote > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jim Wilson > Sent: 09 March 2004 19:31 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - > plib cvs issue &g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-09 Thread David Megginson
Vivian Meazza wrote: We seem to have jumped into something without really thinking it through. Pity. We need to implement something like the AC3D 'crease' sooner rather than later. Actually, what we need is a proper graphics format that specifies per-vertex normals. What we have now is a kludge

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-10 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 21:24, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Jim wrote > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Jim Wilson > > Sent: 09 March 2004 19:31 > > To: FlightGear developers discussions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up for 3D modelers - plib cvs issue

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson said: > Actually, what we need is a proper graphics format that specifies per-vertex > normals. What we have now is a kludge that we need to hold onto until plib > supports another 3D format as fully as it supports AC3D. Given that > problem, I don't know how much formal machi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up! GPS output property names have changed

2004-03-22 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson wrote: FWIW it is probably best _not_ to change property names in your modules unless the change is critically important. Removing the word "indicated-" from the names is a nice idea but IMHO trivial in the scope of things. All you are doing is creating work for others. Actually, keep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up! GPS output property names have changed

2004-03-22 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Monday 22 March 2004 22:50, Jim Wilson wrote: > The autopilot is broken, and who knows what else because someone decided to > rename some of the properties being written by the GPS module. This isn't > a serious problem but the change hasn't been announced here or even > mentioned in the cvs lo