RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-26 Thread Christopher S Horler
I've been following this for a while now, inactively because I don't use windows. I have to ask the question why not write a quick replacement for the command window, if all we are interested in is logging calls? It would be possible to do this in Assembler I'm guessing - using NAsm and using win

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-25 Thread Richard Bytheway
In my experience, worst case is having the terminal (console) window open but covered (partially or completely) by another window, least bad is to have the console window selected. Best case for when the console window is not selected is to have it minimised. On NT like systems, it feels as if i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon S Berndt) [2002.10.24 12:08]: > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:30:29 -0700 > Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Richard Bytheway wrote: > >>We really ought to sort out the ability to disable *any* > >>console > >>output after initialisation on Windows... > > > >Is it maybe t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Jacek M. Holeczek
Hi, Thanks for your reply. > This is a known problem - Win95/98/Me are absolutely hopeless at outputting > to the console - NT/2000/XT are much quicker, and Linux quicker still. I'm not very experienced here ... but are you sure that the problem is just writing to the "terminal window" ? >From

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Berndt) [2002.10.24 08:49]: > > quickest fix > > would be to fix the SG_LOG level of that output to be disabled with > > --without-logging. The best fix might be to enable full run-time > logging > > control. I have commented out all the sun position information > > stuff

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Andy Ross
Richard Bytheway wrote: > We really ought to sort out the ability to disable *any* console > output after initialisation on Windows... Is it maybe time to revisit the priority of most of the log messages? I mean, the vast majority of these things are debugging output for code that is mature and st

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:30:29 -0700 Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Bytheway wrote: We really ought to sort out the ability to disable *any* console output after initialisation on Windows... Is it maybe time to revisit the priority of most of the log messages? I mean, the vast majo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Jon Berndt
> quickest fix > would be to fix the SG_LOG level of that output to be disabled with > --without-logging. The best fix might be to enable full run-time logging > control. I have commented out all the sun position information > stuff in my > own build in the past and the pauses go away. As someon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread David Luff
On 10/24/02 at 12:48 PM Jacek M. Holeczek wrote: >> This is a known problem - Win95/98/Me are absolutely hopeless at >outputting >> to the console - NT/2000/XT are much quicker, and Linux quicker still. > >I'm not very experienced here ... but are you sure that the problem is >just writing to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Julian Foad
Jacek M. Holeczek wrote: ... There are two problems with the joystick. First, there are two vertical "bars/arrows" in the cockpit for the "elevators", but only the "right" one is following the joystick (the "left" one always stays in the middle) - however, if I "view" the plane from "outside" I ca

RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread Richard Bytheway
Minimize the console window to minimise the effect. Richard > -Original Message- > From: David Luff [mailto:David.Luff@;nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: 24 October 2002 11:27 am > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 0.8.0 on Win98SE

2002-10-24 Thread David Luff
On 10/23/02 at 11:58 AM Jacek M. Holeczek wrote: >There is also another "annoying" problem. Basically, the FGFS runs very >smoothly on my machine except that every now and then (I don't have my >machine at hand now, but let's say it is about every 30 seconds) it >"stops" for a moment - I can see th