Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-12 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 09:24 -0700, Andy Ross a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: with Yasim we must find a medium way to get the same effect. About retractable gears no problems, about contact points on the fuse big problems . I'm not understanding this at all; JSBSim and YASim have all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 10 Jun 2005 22:41, Andy Ross wrote: theoreticle wrote: Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 10:20 +0100, Lee Elliott a crit : On Friday 10 Jun 2005 22:41, Andy Ross wrote: theoreticle wrote: Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Lee Elliott wrote: One problem with using YASim for sea planes is that the fuselage mustn't contact the surface as this equates to a crash. While I was experimenting with the SR45 I found that I had to omit the lower fuselage deck to achieve this, which must then affect the flying accuracy.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Gerard Robin wrote: I could not use JSB (no rotor FDM) and with the use of Yasim it has been very difficult to find the right way which make that model to stand correctly on water with gear-up. To answer that, JSBSim gives a better flexibility. Both JSBSim and YASim use manually placed gear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 08:39 -0700, Andy Ross a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: I could not use JSB (no rotor FDM) and with the use of Yasim it has been very difficult to find the right way which make that model to stand correctly on water with gear-up. To answer that, JSBSim gives a better

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Gerard Robin wrote: with Yasim we must find a medium way to get the same effect. About retractable gears no problems, about contact points on the fuse big problems . I'm not understanding this at all; JSBSim and YASim have all but identical* gear systems. Can you please post the YASim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Andy wrote: whereas YASim allows different gear object to retract independently. !!! ... now there's a thought. Hmmm. I feel a feature request coming for JSBSim. :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 09:24 -0700, Andy Ross a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: with Yasim we must find a medium way to get the same effect. About retractable gears no problems, about contact points on the fuse big problems . I'm not understanding this at all; JSBSim and YASim have all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 11 Jun 2005 16:35, Andy Ross wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: One problem with using YASim for sea planes is that the fuselage mustn't contact the surface as this equates to a crash. While I was experimenting with the SR45 I found that I had to omit the lower fuselage deck to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-10 Thread theoreticle
Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water, perhaps more if landing in 'seas'. There absolutely must be some code to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-10 Thread Andy Ross
theoreticle wrote: Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water, perhaps more if landing in 'seas'. There absolutely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-10 Thread Gerard Robin
Le vendredi 10 juin 2005 17:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit : Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water,