Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Friday 03 March 2006 17:28, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > Let me just say that hanging out in a booth is a *lot* of fun. You get > to spend the entire day talking about FlightGear and flight simulation > and aviation ... what could be better? Well, looking forward to that! Greetings M

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread John Wojnaroski
It wasn't a big change. I tried to do minimum damage to the exsting structure.  Have not had a change to look at your new code; however going back to the 0.9.9 release: plugged in a new engine model for a fan based more on physics and theromdynamics, not perfect but not bad either. the other

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Video problems

2006-03-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > FlightGear seems to have no problems. I also don't see any > > obvious problems elsewhere. > > Hey, you might as well just stick with what works ... :-) > > :-) > > Curt. Heh. I expected someone to say that! Actually I consider it more of a video card / driver problem. Very frustrating. :-(

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video problems

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S. Berndt wrote: This is not a FlightGear related problem, especially. It might actually be a solid Direct3D / Windows problem. But, I'm hoping someone here has seen something similar. I was trying to fly MS Combat FS the other day. When the thing initialized I noticed that some of the terr

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Innis Cunningham
"Jon S. Berndt" writes > > I also noticed that none of the electrical systems can be switched off > > either. I am trying to add as much realism i.e. switches etc to this as > > possible. > > > > Justin Smithies > > I think the fuel would flow to the engines anyway due to gravity. > > Ampere

[Flightgear-devel] Video problems

2006-03-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
This is not a FlightGear related problem, especially. It might actually be a solid Direct3D / Windows problem. But, I'm hoping someone here has seen something similar. I was trying to fly MS Combat FS the other day. When the thing initialized I noticed that some of the terrain areas had not been d

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > I also noticed that none of the electrical systems can be switched off > > either. I am trying to add as much realism i.e. switches etc to this as > > possible. > > > > Justin Smithies > > I think the fuel would flow to the engines anyway due to gravity. > > Ampere Remember dihedral. Are the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A4F Model

2006-03-03 Thread Isao Yamashita
Looks so nice, but do you have the newer catapult hooks too (the one hooks to the launch bar, and the tension bar holding at the back of the nose gear strut) ?   I can send some diagrams if you need.   IsaoVivian Meazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I started out by adjusting the catapult stro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::string'

2006-03-03 Thread Isao Yamashita
...minimum of coding standard:- - do not use tabs, use only spaces (this guarantees that the code looksthe same everywhere and any formating won't break)Not in a minimal coding standard should be:- - use only 2 spaces per indent (that's what I prefer - but other choicesare also valid and coding is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Friday 03 March 2006 13:00, Justin Smithies wrote: > For starters turning off the fuel pump , the engine should start to become > starved of fuel and stop > I also noticed that none of the electrical systems can be switched off > either. I am trying to add as much realism i.e. switches etc to th

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
The code for JSBSim is in the tar file from MIADC or Scale.  It is not part of the CVS tree or 0.9.9, source is avaialble but not my call to put it in.JW  John:   Which JSBSim files are changed for the propulsion mods you made?   Jon  

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Based on cockpit switches ( throttle, x-feed valves, boost pumps, cutoff switches) the sim calculates which tank is connected to which engine and if the line is open.  It then sends the result to FG and onto JSBSim to instruct the engine model to draw the correct amount of fuel, base

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Durk Talsma
On Friday 03 March 2006 08:40, Martin Spott wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag > > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the > > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-map > > showing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:33:21 +0100, Melchior wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Erik Hofman -- Friday 03 March 2006 18:24: > > Normally it could but we now have code at one place that writes to > > disk (the ~/.fgfs/autosave.xml) and I don't know how well it > > handles write errors. > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:15:47 +, Jon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Berndt, Jon S wrote: > > Can FlightGear and associated files be written to a CD and run right > > off the CD? > > If you mean can you write the binaries and data to a cd and run from > there, then yes (nothing need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MK VIII EGPWS emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I am trying to integrate this contribution in the code base but after too much hours spent on this, I finally won't. Three reasons : - it doesn't compiles under MSVC, for obscure reason I don't understand. - there are a lot of files for the base package that are not stri

[Flightgear-devel] ..live CD 'n DVD's?, was: FlightGear on LinuxTag

2006-03-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 19:00:03 +1100, Pigeon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience > > in createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a > > FlightGear live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on > > o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MK VIII EGPWS emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I am trying to integrate this contribution in the code base but after too much hours spent on this, I finally won't. Three reasons : - it doesn't compiles under MSVC, for obscure reason I don't understand. - there are a lot of files for the base package that are not strictly needed at run times

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Freitag 03 März 2006 21:55 schrieb Martin Spott: > Jon Stockill wrote: > > I think there have been objects added for that area, but the screenshots > > I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are available. The power > > station data for Germany was added this morning, so that'll give a few >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill wrote: > I think there have been objects added for that area, but the screenshots > I've seen seem to indicate that a lot more are available. The power > station data for Germany was added this morning, so that'll give a few > hundred more objects when it's exported tonight. Just a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MK VIII EGPWS emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Our main cvs committer resigned and this is a pretty substantial patch and a large amount of work to apply and I just haven't had time. I went out of town twice in Feb. and I still am a long ways away from getting caught up from the backlog of those trips. The desire is there, but speaking fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread David Megginson
On 03/03/06, Matthias Boerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never > > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other > > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found > > there had a spring th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread John Wojnaroski
http://www.lfstech.com go to the download page JW Justin Smithies wrote: Cheers Jw do you have a url for that download ? Justin Smithies On Friday 03 March 2006 18:31, John Wojnaroski wrote: To make that work on the 747, I had to pretty much can the fuel/engine model in JSBSi

[Flightgear-devel] Wiesbaden: Flightgear on LinuxTag

2006-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
I've found _very_good_ aerial pictures of Wiesbaden city at: http://www.wiesbaden.de/ > Stadtplan > Start > Karten : Luftbilder Great, we got perfect pictures, coordinates and measuring tools :-) -- Bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten sparen: GMX SmartSurfer! Kostenlos downloaden: http://www.gmx.net

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Justin Smithies
Cheers Jw do you have a url for that download ? Justin Smithies On Friday 03 March 2006 18:31, John Wojnaroski wrote: > To make that work on the 747, I had to pretty much can the fuel/engine > model in JSBSim and modify the control packet sending data to FG. > Basically, it works as follows: > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Matthias Boerner
Hi Martin, -->snip > Next one: I know how it feels to fly a real aircraft but I've never > used a yoke or pedals with FlightGear. Sometimes I've use other > people's equipment with M$FS but I wasn't satisfied. The pedals I found > there had a spring that centers the pedal position much too hard -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread John Wojnaroski
To make that work on the 747, I had to pretty much can the fuel/engine model in JSBSim and modify the control packet sending data to FG.  Basically, it works as follows: Based on cockpit switches ( throttle, x-feed valves, boost pumps, cutoff switches) the sim calculates which tank is connecte

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Jon Stockill
Ralf Gerlich wrote: I know there has been some discussion going on on the German Flightgear Forum at http://flight-gear.de/ regarding objects in the Frankfurt/Main area, but I currently don't know how far they got and whether these objects are already in Jon's DB. I think there have been obj

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Justin Smithies
For starters turning off the fuel pump , the engine should start to become starved of fuel and stop I also noticed that none of the electrical systems can be switched off either. I am trying to add as much realism i.e. switches etc to this as possible. Justin Smithies On Friday 03 March 2006 17

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Berndt, Jon S
> I noticed when running the 737-300 model if i switch off the > fuel pumps this has no effect on the engines at all. > How can i make the pumps turning off have an effect on the > engines etc. > Also i'd like to implement the crossfeeds so i can have the > switches in my cockpit too. > Anyone a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
"Roberto Inzerillo" wrote: > There's also ETOU airport at high resolution (is that civil or military?). ET?? is always European military, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Detlef Faber wrote: > I would like to do some scenery work, but as I don't live in Wiesbaden I > might do some generic models of rhine bridges or Highways. Also I like > to put some AI ships on the rhine. Finally, what do you think about a > Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery? Oh, that would be a great

[Flightgear-devel] 737 diy cockpit

2006-03-03 Thread Justin Smithies
Hi guys , Can anyone help me out here with coding etc. I'm constructing a 737 cockpit at home using FG and several pc's. I'm building my own hardware / interfaces but i'm stuck on certain things. I noticed when running the 737-300 model if i switch off the fuel pumps this has no eff

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 03 March 2006 18:24: > Normally it could but we now have code at one place that writes to disk > (the ~/.fgfs/autosave.xml) and I don't know how well it handles write > errors. Just put a pre-fabricated ~/.fgfs/autosave.xml with false m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Berndt, Jon S wrote: Can FlightGear and associated files be written to a CD and run right off the CD? Normally it could but we now have code at one place that writes to disk (the ~/.fgfs/autosave.xml) and I don't know how well it handles write errors. But otherwise I don't see a real problem.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Roberto Inzerillo schrieb: maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of Wiesbaden. That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing their top-down footprint. Curt. I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-( I don't know what you mean w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MK VIII EGPWS emulation

2006-03-03 Thread Justin Smithies
I agree this should be added to the cvs A.S.A.P Justin Smithies On Friday 03 March 2006 17:17, AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Wednesday 22 February 2006 23:49, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > > Did you checked with the author of the B1900D ( Syd Adams ? ) that your > > > proposed change doesn't conflict with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MK VIII EGPWS emulation

2006-03-03 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 23:49, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: > > Did you checked with the author of the B1900D ( Syd Adams ? ) that your > > proposed change doesn't conflict with his current work, if any ? > No. Someone will need to ask if he approves the b1900d changes. Is there any reason why th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
> Curtis L. Olson schrieb: > > I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where Wiesbaden stops and > > surrounding towns start. I'm sure you are correct in everything you > > say. I just noticed that there is detailed imagery near by that > > includes a detailed image of the airport. Perh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Curtis L. Olson schrieb: I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where Wiesbaden stops and surrounding towns start. I'm sure you are correct in everything you say. I just noticed that there is detailed imagery near by that includes a detailed image of the airport. Perhaps that is anot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Roberto Inzerillo wrote: maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of Wiesbaden. That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing their top-down footprint. Curt. I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-( I don't know what you me

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselves. So

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
> maps.google.com has detailed satellite imagery for portions of > Wiesbaden. That might help at least with positioning objects and seeing > their top-down footprint. > > Curt. I already explored google maps, Wiesbaden is not detailed at all :-( I don't know what you mean with that. The area a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Jon Stockill
Berndt, Jon S wrote: Can FlightGear and associated files be written to a CD and run right off the CD? If you mean can you write the binaries and data to a cd and run from there, then yes (nothing needs to be written to the place the app is installed). Scenery load performance won't be up to w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Detlef Faber wrote: Finally, what do you think about a Ju-52 in a Linux Tag livery? A Ju-52 in any livery would be an awsome addition. Curt. -- Curtis Olsonhttp://www.flightgear.org/~curt HumanFIRST Program http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ FlightGear Project http://www.flightgear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Robicd wrote: I started posting the Wiesbaden Neroturm Tempel to fgfsdb.stockill.org maintainers. I'd like to have more pictures and dimensions of the relevant buildings in order to build something realistic at all. I'll do some more 3d stuff but that needs more data which I still can't find

[Flightgear-devel] Quick question

2006-03-03 Thread Berndt, Jon S
Title: Quick question Can FlightGear and associated files be written to a CD and run right off the CD? Jon

[Flightgear-devel] A4F Model

2006-03-03 Thread Vivian Meazza
Hi I started out by adjusting the catapult strop and holdback attachment points for the A4, and noticed that we had an A4E YASim config (more or less) with an A3F modified for the Blue Angels aerobatic team 3D model. So I tidied up the 3d model, constructed the correct YASim config, including air

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Friday 03 March 2006 11:59: > Ah, you actually _did_ understand ? It didn't look like that. So why > then do you prefer being ignorant ? No, that's a misunderstanding. Let me clear it up: 1) we were not discussing a new keyboard layout 2) we were not discussing what binding shou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Robicd
We already triggered Ralf and Ingrid to try to prepare detailed scenery for the show so that the guests of our booth could fly around over the local entourage. Now as I realize that much progress has been made regarding the Scenery Objects Database and that there are lots of skilled designers out

[Flightgear-devel] For the Europeans: public geodata

2006-03-03 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, there's a page - http://publicgeodata.org/Home - that tries to lobby the European parliament not to pass a bill that allows the national mapping agencies to own the data that the tax payer has already paid for. So if you live in Europe you might

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag;

2006-03-03 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 07:40 + schrieb Martin Spott: > Martin Spott wrote: > > > It's pretty likely that we're going to have a booth at the Linux-Tag > > exhibition in Wiesbaden on May 3 - 6, 2006. In order to present the > > local area to the visitors it would be nice to have an online-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Friday 03 March 2006 10:43: >> Melchior FRANZ wrote: >> > We'll take that into account once it was (hopefully) implemented >> > in certain piston-engined aircraft some day. That's soon enough. >> >> Sorry, you don't understand: > > I understood you perfe

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Buchanan, Stuart -- Friday 03 March 2006 10:30: > --- Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > Makes sense to me. (The implementation less so. :-) > > Well, to be consistent I was copying code from elsewhere in the Nasal > file. ... just not the placing of parentheses. :-P > I assume you have some way of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Friday 03 March 2006 10:43: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > We'll take that into account once it was (hopefully) implemented > > in certain piston-engined aircraft some day. That's soon enough. > > Sorry, you don't understand: I understood you perfectly fine. But you didn't underst

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Friday 03 March 2006 09:12: >> would you mind taking into account that we (hopefully) someday >> will have carburator heating for certain piston-engined aircraft >> being modelled in Flightgear ? > We'll take that into account once it was (hopefully) imple

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::string'

2006-03-03 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mathias Fröhlich schrieb: > On Wednesday 01 March 2006 13:41, Chris Metzler wrote: >> Yes, this is definitely the way to solve this problem. After all, >> nobody gets truly worked up about dumbass things like vim vs. emacs >> or anything like that! >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Buchanan, Stuart -- Thursday 02 March 2006 20:11: > > I have a patch to Nasal/controls.nas. The patch changes the > > adjEngControl() function to apply the adjustment to the currently > selected > > engine, rather than all of them. This directly affects adjThrottle(),

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: > Yesterday evening I was confirmed that we _will_ get a free booth on > the LinuxTag show (3rd to 6th May). Now several things come into my > mind that would help us to make our presence on the show a success and > that we probably won't find the time to do everything ourselve

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Friday 03 March 2006 09:12: > would you mind taking into account that we (hopefully) someday > will have carburator heating for certain piston-engined aircraft > being modelled in Flightgear ? We'll take that into account once it was (hopefully) implemented in certain piston-engi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Nasal controls.nas patch for multi-engine aircraft and changes to C310

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Buchanan, Stuart -- Thursday 02 March 2006 20:11: > Makes sense, too, but I wonder if we shouldn't assign that globally > in keyboard.xml. Looking into map.pdf I see that n/N has no meaning > per default, but several aircraft defining it to mean the same: > > N (78) >

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on LinuxTag; Was: FlightGear Make Process: Amazing

2006-03-03 Thread Pigeon
> There's another request: Is anybody on this list who has experience in > createin live-CD's like Knoppix ? It would be nice to have a FlightGear > live-CD to give away - or at least to have a CD image on out FTP > mirrors that we can point at. I have done some live cds stuff for work. And i