Maik Justus wrote:
no. The Doppler problems are due to OpenAL bugs and limitations. On most
systems (at least at all which are using Open AL software Doppler
calculation) I got strange effects. On Linux systems a workaround was to
use only the relative velocity of listener and sound,
* Maik Justus -- Thursday 23 October 2008:
Melchior sent me a note, that actual Open AL might be less buggy,
but he still noticed strange effects.
I guess we have to define what actual means here. As far as I
know by now, there are three variants:
(a) original OpenAL by Loki (as Erik pointed
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I guess we have to define what actual means here. As far as I
know by now, there are three variants:
(a) original OpenAL by Loki (as Erik pointed out recently)
(b) official OpenAL by Creative (continued from (a)). Development
I have tot state that the Creative
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
(d) A complete rewrite of OpenAL done by me, not released yet
and still figuring out how to best push this. I've used this
one for at least half a year now when running FlightGear.
Frankly, I don't see how (d) can compete with (c), which is
used and
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Frankly, I don't see how (d) can compete with (c), which is
used and cared for by several Linux distributions as well as
used and tested by several million people. Do we really want
to pull in maintainership of our own OpenAL implementation
(for no good reason)? And
Did I say I'd shut up now? Bah ... ;-)
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
I never said I wanted to put my own implementation into
FlightGear. Still, there is a new option available soon.
True, I'm sorry. The ultimate question is really only: can
we drop our current workarounds for
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Frankly, I don't see how (d) can compete with (c), which is
Yeah yeah, By the second time I got the message ;)
Erik
(Sorry, I couldn't resist)
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* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 24 October 2008:
Should/can we remove all workarounds and require (c)?
Just for clarification: all versions should really be
compatible, anyway. So there wouldn't be a requirement
to install a particular one. The question is only, if
one implementaiton is fully spec
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
True, I'm sorry. The ultimate question is really only: can
we drop our current workarounds for buggy implementations,
and rely on a clean spec-compliant (i.e. working) OpenAL
version, and point people to an URL where this can be found
for optimal results. Ideally, this
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
Yeah yeah, By the second time I got the message ;)
In case you are referring to mail duplicates: As you can see
on the message ids, I didn't send it twice. This is a bug
in the sourceforge.net mail handling:
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
the remaining problem might be hardware accelerated 3d
audio support from the Creative drivers. If that version
fails, then what?
Ugh ... no idea about that. Wouldn't implementations like
openal-soft care for that as well? (Not that I've found any
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
the remaining problem might be hardware accelerated 3d
audio support from the Creative drivers. If that version
fails, then what?
Ugh ... no idea about that. Wouldn't implementations like
openal-soft care for that as well?
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 24 October 2008:
Yeah yeah, By the second time I got the message ;)
In case you are referring to mail duplicates: As you can see
on the message ids, I didn't send it twice. This is a bug
in the sourceforge.net mail handling:
I've been speaking with a manufacturer of graphics related hardware device.
Let me just keep it generic for now, even if the list of names to guess from
isn't very long.
We were discussing the idea of setting up a contest with one of their units
being the grand prize. They would benefit of
My suggestion would be a pre-recorded flight contest.
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Suggested_Prerecorded_Flights
Rationale is as follows
1) Will provide great demo-fodder
http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Presentation_Recipe
2) Will provide a nice basis for improving
Hi, does anyone have a copy of Robin's AptNav files for X-Plane 8.10
which is more recent than the 200712XP810 release ?
Martin.
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