Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2008, 23:46 +0100 schrieb gerard robin: > On mercredi 10 décembre 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > > Hi Gerard, > > > > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 13:08:57 gerard robin wrote: > > > Is it only philosophy, from me ? > > > Am i alone to think like that ? > > > Or, is there here,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback

2008-12-10 Thread Erik Hofman
BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: > James Sleeman wrote : > >> In short, there are plenty of aircraft out there I believe that ARE easy >> to fly in real life, and just saying that the "best models" with "higher >> quality" can never be "easy to fly" is a wholly incorrect statement. > Everything is expl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI traffic

2008-12-10 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Alasdair, On Wednesday 10 December 2008 22:26:14 Alasdair Campbell wrote: > > Browsing through the output reveals many KLM scheduled flights, many of > which contain the (missing) destination LGPG. (And lots more interesting > stuff) > > Can I suggest that LGPG be replaced with LFPG (Charles de

Re: [Flightgear-devel] on "Best Models" and "Easy to Fly"

2008-12-10 Thread James Sleeman
Changing subject, getting off the original topic a lot... gerard robin wrote: > Your definition => when if takes 5 hours that is easy to fly. > You misunderstand me I think, I probably said it badly and apologise for that. You said in your email: "The best models which have the higher

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread Syd
Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 13:08:57 gerard robin wrote: > >> Is it only philosophy, from me ? >> Am i alone to think like that ? >> Or, is there here, now, more "gamer" and less "serious" persons. ? >> >> > > I'm puzzled... > > As far as I can tell th

[Flightgear-devel] More 3D cloud changes

2008-12-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Those keeping an eye on CVS will notice that Tim Moore has committed some changes to the clouds code. His changes massively improve performance - way above what I've been achieving with my attempts to re-use cloud definitions. I am very grateful to Tim for showing me once again how perf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback

2008-12-10 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
James Sleeman wrote : > In short, there are plenty of aircraft out there I believe that ARE easy > to fly in real life, and just saying that the "best models" with "higher > quality" can never be "easy to fly" is a wholly incorrect statement. Everything is explained here. Thanks James. Best re

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On jeudi 11 décembre 2008, James Sleeman wrote: > gerard robin wrote: > > With the most realistic quality a model is never easy to fly, even the > > most simple aircraft, (if the FDM and cockpit are realistic). > > > > The best models which have the higher quality must be presented first ( > > and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread James Sleeman
gerard robin wrote: > With the most realistic quality a model is never easy to fly, even the most > simple aircraft, (if the FDM and cockpit are realistic). > > The best models which have the higher quality must be presented first ( and > they won't never be "easy to fly"). Can I chime in and say

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread joacher
> Von: gerard robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, i am probably alone to think like that. No, you aren't. Yesterday night I wrote a mail to the very same topic, but I discarded it cause I am unknown to most people here. I'll try to rephrase what I tried to say last night. When I started with fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 10 décembre 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > On Wednesday 10 December 2008 13:08:57 gerard robin wrote: > > Is it only philosophy, from me ? > > Am i alone to think like that ? > > Or, is there here, now, more "gamer" and less "serious" persons. ? > > I'm puzzled... > > As far

[Flightgear-devel] B-1B update

2008-12-10 Thread Markus Zojer
Hi all! Could someone please apply the new version of the bone: http://homepage.univie.ac.at/markus.zojer/fgfs/B-1B.tar.gz Changes/News: - weapon dialogs introduced - textures added - target display added - guided weapons system introduced - automated launch system - sniper pod added (can be tu

[Flightgear-devel] AI traffic

2008-12-10 Thread Alasdair Campbell
Hi, all I am looking for another problem and have set --log-level=info I have also diasabled ai-models. Now I execute fgfs 2>&1 | tee Desktop/fginfo.out Browsing through the output reveals many KLM scheduled flights, many of which contain the (missing) destination LGPG. (And lots more interesting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Gerard, On Wednesday 10 December 2008 13:08:57 gerard robin wrote: > Is it only philosophy, from me ? > Am i alone to think like that ? > Or, is there here, now, more "gamer" and less "serious" persons. ? > I'm puzzled... As far as I can tell there has never been any question regaring our st

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source Makefile.am, 1.26, 1.27

2008-12-10 Thread Durk Talsma
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 20:42:26 gerard robin wrote: > On mercredi 10 décembre 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source > > In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9843 > > > > Modified Files: > > Makefile.am > > Log Message: > > Some final adjustments:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source Makefile.am, 1.26, 1.27

2008-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On mercredi 10 décembre 2008, Durk Talsma wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source > In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv9843 > > Modified Files: > Makefile.am > Log Message: > Some final adjustments: > - Remove Concorde, as announced Is it one way decision ? --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with F-14b liveries over MP [solved]

2008-12-10 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
Csaba Halász wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Alexis Bory - xiii > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a problem with how the f-14b liveries textures are applied > > over MP: > > Seem to be the same issue as with the dr400, but this time with the > material animation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with F-14b liveries over MP

2008-12-10 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Alexis Bory - xiii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a problem with how the f-14b liveries textures are applied over MP: Seem to be the same issue as with the dr400, but this time with the material animation. -- Csaba/Jester Index: simgear/scene/mo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > My graphics card: BFG GeForce 7800 GS OC which is an AGP 8x > 256MB GDDR3 > My system is an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with 2G of ram. > > I typically get 70 to 80 fps with 2 D clouds and I had the > frame rate > throttled to 30 fps when I got the 1 fps with the latest 3D > clouds. But > I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] problem with dr400 and path validation

2008-12-10 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
Hello all, For information, We tested (several people) the Jester patch : http://pastebin.ca/1281126 And after patch, registrations code running again in mp. We can see the registrations of other players. So thank you to Jester. Hoping that this be included in CVS ;) Best regards. Emmanuel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread dave perry
Stuart Buchanan wrote: > dave perry wrote: > > >> You were correct. I had not set the weather scenario to METAR. I ran >> fgfs once with 3D clouds and once w/o 3D clouds, both with >> real-weather-fetch and scenario METAR. I only got 1 fps with the 3D >> clouds. Earlier with 3D clouds, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread Yon Uriarte
Maybe add an option to do full length bubble sort each update?Or quicksort, even. It should really be that much of a cpu eater, after the clouds are sorted. It would result in a bit of frame drop on pan around, but flickering would disappear. For users with modern system it would improve visuals. I

[Flightgear-devel] ${FG_MODELS} !?

2008-12-10 Thread Martin Spott
Currently FlightGear knows about ${FG_ROOT} to find its Base Package and ${FG_SCENERY} to find additional Scenery, two values which could also be set via the command line "--fg-root=" and "--fg-scenery=" At least the command line lets the user point also at "additional properties" via "--config=" a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.99.5 RC1 feedback summary

2008-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On mardi 09 décembre 2008, Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > Just to follow up to my previous mail regarding the > > prereleases. I hope to > > roll out another release candidate tomorrow evening (CET). > > As for the aircraft > > selection, I would like to make the following c

[Flightgear-devel] Problem with F-14b liveries over MP

2008-12-10 Thread Alexis Bory - xiii
Hi all, I have a problem with how the f-14b liveries textures are applied over MP: I can switch livery locally without problem, there is 4 PNGs for each livery and every thing goes fine. The livery change over MP is also visible, all properties under ai/model/multiplayer/sim/model/livery (and su

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
dave perry wrote: > You were correct. I had not set the weather scenario to METAR. I ran > fgfs once with 3D clouds and once w/o 3D clouds, both with > real-weather-fetch and scenario METAR. I only got 1 fps with the 3D > clouds. Earlier with 3D clouds, I got about 21 fps. I assume you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread Stuart Buchanan
gerard robin wrote: > However i am , now, a bit disappointed with these flickering ( too often, > may be it is my graphics cards NVIDIA 7800 GS 512 mo) which decrease > dramatically the result (mainly with Metar) . And which make me to come back > to the 2D clouds, with the GUI preference. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final (?) 3D clouds patch

2008-12-10 Thread gerard robin
On lundi 08 décembre 2008, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > Curt wrote: > > I wonder if there is some sort of floating point resolution / rounding > > problem with the sort? I see a lot of flickering myself. Also if I look > > some particular direction and the clouds get sorted ok, then look away > > for