Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:32:54 +0700, Harry wrote in message aanlktikopbzo1-h7qga8nano68gmb4mm07anm8eb3...@mail.gmail.com: Memories, heres an old article on we we were doing in the F28s and airfield surveys, whilst off topic, it may be of interest.

[Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Jack Mermod
Hi, Perhaps some of you have noticed, that some of the aircraft that come with the standard flightgear package should be changed. A few examples, we could have a more realistic commercial jet than the 777-200(the FDM is terribly unrealistic), we could have a better modeled helicopter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Oliver Fels
we could have a better  modeled helicopter than the BO-105 I am wondering what makes you feel the Bo105 is not as realistic as others. It has one of the most sophisticated helicopter FDMs in FlightGear which has been approved by real pilots. Almost every other FDM is based on guessing more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Hi,      Perhaps some of you have noticed, that some of the aircraft that  come with the standard flightgear package should be changed. A few examples, we could have a more realistic commercial jet than the  777-200(the FDM is terribly unrealistic), we could have a better 

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread syd adams
Like we couldn't see this coming ;) As for the 777 , unrealistic according to who ? I'm not against changing it as one of the default aircraft , there are a lot of other great choices now , but I do get annoyed with these claims by armchair pilots who read it somewhere or saw it on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:49 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: Like we couldn't see this coming ;) As for the 777 , unrealistic according to who ? I'm not against changing it as one of the default aircraft , there are a lot of other great choices now , but I do get annoyed with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Two things cross my mind, whilst I know the designers strive to model the true aerodynamics in the fdm. 1- how many fly these sims on realistic hardware? Would many even go as far as a set of imitation yoke and pedals? 2- I have spent some time in F28s set up for airport navaid calibration

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Peter Brown
On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Harry Campigli wrote: Two things cross my mind, whilst I know the designers strive to model the true aerodynamics in the fdm. 1- how many fly these sims on realistic hardware? Would many even go as far as a set of imitation yoke and pedals? 2- I have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Erik Hofman
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 12:46 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: This is very true. I've not explored the parameters of the 777 in FG, but if you fly the MD-81 with no passengers, 1200 lbs of fuel and crew weight, it is extremely different than flying with standard fuel load and passengers. Enough so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:29:27 +0100, Erik wrote in message 1298230167.1769.4.camel@Raptor: On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 12:46 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: This is very true. I've not explored the parameters of the 777 in FG, but if you fly the MD-81 with no passengers, 1200 lbs of fuel and crew

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Default Aircraft Candiates

2011-02-20 Thread Harry Campigli
Memories, heres an old article on we we were doing in the F28s and airfield surveys, whilst off topic, it may be of interest. http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Flying%20Unit%20navaid%20cal%20article%201990.htm Item 8 -- (8) good low speed handling and go-around performance from very low altitude;