Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-12-02 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
> > I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more > > arguments. > > I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal with > the web forum because 'browsing' this forum with Lynx is a PITA (this > is one of the rare occasions that I use this acronym ;-) Agreed, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Douglas Campos
+1 for users forum -1000 for developers forum just my 0.01 cents. On 11/30/06, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more > > arguments. > > I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more > arguments. I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal with the web forum because 'browsing' this forum with Lynx is a PITA (this is one of the rare occasions that I use this acronym ;-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I don't really care about which form is used for user support. If passers-by prefer a web-based forum, then this *may* be the better choice. (But also consider that someone has to do the support. These are to a certain degree developers, so even here it's not unimportant what those prefer. Unless w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Jim Wilson
> From: "Curtis Olson" > > Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting > service, it becomes quite easy to setup online "forums" using phpBB2. > > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the > FlightGear community will be decisively sp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-30 Thread Tim Moore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Stockill wrote: > Alex Perry wrote: >>> I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the >>> FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing >>> lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm n

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Alex Perry wrote: >> I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the >> FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing >> lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not expecting a consensus >> here. Is this anything that is worth explor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 14:48, Josh Babcock wrote: > Curtis Olson wrote: > > On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only > >> accessable when the server is up > > > > This is similar with email lists ... you can only p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:20, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > Curt wrote: > I just realize I have said absolutely nothing. :-) > > I think I'm going to let them run just a bit longer and then maybe we can > an idea if enough people think they are useful and are using them. > > If the community i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Wednesday 29 November 2006 05:24, Curtis Olson wrote: > Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting > service, it becomes quite easy to setup online "forums" using phpBB2. > > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the > FlightGea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Dene
Jon S. Berndt wrote: > On 11/29/06, *Jon S. Berndt* wrote: > > If the community is split into two different camps, > communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can > receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up > filters and rules in my e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
On 11/29/06, Jon S. Berndt wrote: If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up filters and rules in my email program to sort the email posts. If the mails to the FlightGe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/29/06, Jon S. Berndt wrote: If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up filters and rules in my email program to sort the email posts. If the mails to the FlightGea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Curt wrote: I just realize I have said absolutely nothing. :-) I think I'm going to let them run just a bit longer and then maybe we can an idea if enough people think they are useful and are using them. If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/29/06, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 13:29, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message > > > > I'd also hate to look in two places. On the other hand, changing how > > we present the mailing list archives so they look like a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 13:29, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message > > > > I'd also hate to look in two places. On the other hand, changing how > > we present the mailing list archives so they look like a forum _and_ > > allow replying if you have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Pigeon
> I prefer the mailing list. I think there are much tot little > contributions for splitting the topics in a forum (how many contributors > we have?). Up to now it's no problem to have the survey of all > contributions. If someone prefer the thread-sorted view: we have it on > http://sourceforg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Curt, I prefer the mailing list. I think there are much tot little contributions for splitting the topics in a forum (how many contributors we have?). Up to now it's no problem to have the survey of all contributions. If someone prefer the thread-sorted view: we have it on http://sourceforg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm > > sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between > > forums versus mailing lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm > >

[Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Alex Perry
>I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the >FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing >lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not expecting a consensus >here. Is this anything that is worth exploring? > I'd also hate to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Babcock
Jon Stockill wrote: > Stuart Buchanan wrote: > >> So, my tuppence worth: >> - Have a structure user forum, and possibly wind down the -user list in >> the future. > > I'd disagree - if anything you should create another mailing list to > gate the forum messages to. > Of course, at some point in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Babcock
Curtis Olson wrote: > On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only >> accessable when the server is up > > > This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive postings > when the list server is running and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Roberto Inzerillo
Online forums are perfect for new users, they can easily look around without being registered to any ML. I suggest you monitor the forum for a while and check if people keep using it. Give it a year time (don't stop after a few months trial), and see what happens. There is no perfect community

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Leidson Campos A. Ferreira
For FlightGear developers. I think a good idea keep development discussions into mailing lists, because this way is driven to developers only. Maybe with a forum, questions with no relevance, help developers give no focus to important development questions. For end users For end users, forum se

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Stuart Buchanan wrote: > So, my tuppence worth: > - Have a structure user forum, and possibly wind down the -user list in > the future. I'd disagree - if anything you should create another mailing list to gate the forum messages to. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Curtis Olson wrote: > Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting > service, it becomes quite easy to setup online "forums" using phpBB2. > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure > the > FlightGear community will be decisively split b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Wednesday 29 November 2006 05:24: > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. Exactly. I can't imagine to take part in forum based development. > Is this anything that is worth exploring? No. > Is it worth having both options available? Not that I knew

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Dene
Curtis Olson wrote: > On 11/28/06, *Ron Jensen* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only > accessable when the server is up > > > This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive > postin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive postings when the list server is running and configured correctly, and unfortun

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:29:05 +1100, Pigeon wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >A backup communication method might be good, but I'm not keen at > >all on the idea of having to look two places for the same kind of > >content. My feeling is that it should be one or the other. > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 23:01 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: > And I'm a moron and just wiped out the whole thing 2 seconds ago. Let > me try again ... thanks for your patience ... :-( > > Curt. And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up and its imp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Pigeon
>A backup communication method might be good, but I'm not keen at >all on the idea of having to look two places for the same kind of >content. My feeling is that it should be one or the other. Agreed. I think a forum has advantages over say a mailing list. But then having both mig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
And I'm a moron and just wiped out the whole thing 2 seconds ago. Let me try again ... thanks for your patience ... :-( Curt. On 11/28/06, Curtis Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm just fiddling around and anything can be changed, but here is a first whack. http://www.flightgear.org/f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
I'm just fiddling around and anything can be changed, but here is a first whack. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/ As Dave said we can setup any structure of categories and forums. Right now I've created one category with all the forum topics inside, but we could certainly split things out m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread John Wojnaroski
Curtis Olson wrote: > Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial > hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online "forums" using > phpBB2. > > I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm > sure the FlightGear community will be decisively spl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Jon S. Berndt
I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not expecting a consensus here. Is this anything that is worth exploring? Is it worth having bot

[Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online "forums" using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing lis