Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-13 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: Actually I take that back, about it sounding good.. It seems like adding a MIDI mode which requires manual assignment of that value, without proper SYSEX handling, will likely lead to many MIDI songs not working properly Please, back your

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket#65)

2010-08-13 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Thursday, August 12, 2010, Jim Henry wrote: Again I am just making an observation regarding something I don't do so I could be completely off base. Is one of the uses of FluidSynth intended to be a MIDI file player that allows the use of sound fonts? If so, I think some of those who want to

Re: Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket#65)

2010-08-12 Thread Bernd Casper
Forwarded to the list, sorry. - Hat den folgenden Inhalt empfangen - Absender: Bernd Casper Empfänger: Elimar Green Zeit: 2010-08-12, 10:12:51 Betreff: Re: Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket#65) Hi Elimar, yes, I do. My opinion: I can

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket#65)

2010-08-12 Thread Jim Henry
Again I am just making an observation regarding something I don't do so I could be completely off base. Is one of the uses of FluidSynth intended to be a MIDI file player that allows the use of sound fonts? If so, I think some of those who want to use it that way are likely to have little

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-11 Thread Elimar Green
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas pedro.lopez.cabanil...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that we can leave the SYSEX stuff for a future release, avoiding the risk of spend too much time implementing and testing this feature. In addition to your code, I've included similar

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-11 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas pedro.lopez.cabanil...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that we can leave the SYSEX stuff for a future release, avoiding the risk of spend too much time implementing and testing this feature.

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-11 Thread Elimar Green
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas pedro.lopez.cabanil...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good.  Does it make sense to have separate midi.bank-select and a midi.mode setting though?  Why not just make it midi.mode and then we can add additional functionality on to it in the future?

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-10 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality. This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is actually LSB when only the MSB is received. I can understand David wanting to release ASAP, since he has been

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-10 Thread David Henningsson
2010-08-10 08:01, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev: On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality. This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is actually LSB when only the MSB is received. I can understand

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-10 Thread Jim Henry
On 8/9/2010 10:34 PM, Elimar Green wrote: ... if only the MSB is received prior to a Program Change, then it should be interpreted as LSB. If both MSB and LSB are received, they should combine to select the bank (once the Program Change is received) as MSB * 128 + LSB. I don't do the kind of

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-10 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, Jim Henry wrote: On 8/9/2010 10:34 PM, Elimar Green wrote: ... if only the MSB is received prior to a Program Change, then it should be interpreted as LSB. If both MSB and LSB are received, they should combine to select the bank (once the Program Change is

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-09 Thread David Henningsson
2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev: How about we release 1.1.2 now, list this as a known issue, and release 1.1.3 as soon as this is agreed, fixed and finished, with Sysexes, settings, and so on? If that then takes just a week - then we can release 1.1.3 just a week after 1.1.2.

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-09 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Monday, August 9, 2010, David Henningsson wrote: 2010-08-08 23:42, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev: On Sunday, August 8, 2010, David Henningsson wrote: SF2 (SoundFont) files (like GeneralUser, FluidR3,...) have bank numbers 127 for melodic sounds and 128 for Drum kits, as recommended by

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-09 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Monday, August 9, 2010, I wrote: XG defaults and recommends channel #10 as the drum channel. Other channels may be used as drum channels when CC#32=127 is received on any channel. What I'm proposing is to fix *NOW* the broken behavior that is plaguing FluidSynth-1.1.x converting any

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-09 Thread Elimar Green
It seems simple enough to revert the behavior to 1.0.9 functionality. This should work fine in most cases, as far as the whole MSB is actually LSB when only the MSB is received. I can understand David wanting to release ASAP, since he has been waiting for a while to do so. But I think the

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-08 Thread jimmy
--- On Sat, 8/7/10, Elimar Green elimargr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Elimar Green elimargr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65) To: jimmy wg20...@yahoo.com Cc: fluid-dev@nongnu.org Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 9:51 AM

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-08 Thread Elimar Green
This was all basically implemented at one point in FluidSynth with a settings option and detection of SYSEX MIDI mode change messages, which would modify the current settings value dynamically. It was removed because it was deemed incomplete (as far as all the additional functionality which comes

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-08 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Saturday, August 7, 2010, S. Christian Collins wrote: Another option, rather than try to guess what bank select mode to use would be to default to the GS standard, but have an option to use XG mode--this could even be a switch added to Qsynth easily enough for us GUI folks. Defaulting to

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-08 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Sunday, August 8, 2010, David Henningsson wrote: SF2 (SoundFont) files (like GeneralUser, FluidR3,...) have bank numbers 127 for melodic sounds and 128 for Drum kits, as recommended by the SoundFont specification [5]. It is necessary to map the MIDI Bank Select numbers to the SF2 bank

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-08 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Saturday, August 7, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: This was all basically implemented at one point in FluidSynth with a settings option and detection of SYSEX MIDI mode change messages, which would modify the current settings value dynamically. It was removed because it was deemed incomplete

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-06 Thread jimmy
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:52:14 +0200 From: Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas pedro.lopez.cabanil...@gmail.com On Friday, August 6, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: I want to remark the above quotation from the SF2 specification. SF2 bank numbers for melodic channels are numbers in the range 0 to 127,

Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65

2010-08-04 Thread Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas
On Monday, August 2, 2010, Elimar Green wrote: Its been a while since the topic of MIDI bank selection was discussed, so I'm frustratingly in the dark again about it. From what I read a bank/program change is sent as such: Bank MSB (CC #0) Bank LSB (CC #32) Program change So in that case

Re: MIDI Bank Select proposal (was Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65)

2010-08-04 Thread David Henningsson
2010-08-03 22:48, Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas skrev: [Sorry, this is a bit long...] I'm glad you took the time to sort it out! MIDI Bank Select messages are Control Change #0 (MSB) and CC#32 (LSB) [4]. Up to FS-1.0.9, the behavior was that when a CC#0 message was received, the value was used as

Re: Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65

2010-08-02 Thread Bernd Casper
by a program change? Regards Bernd. - Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen - Absender: Elimar Green Empfänger: S. Christian Collins Zeit: 2010-08-02, 04:00:28 Betreff: Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65 Its been a while since the topic of MIDI bank selection was discussed, so I'm

Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65

2010-08-02 Thread S. Christian Collins
mailto:elimargr...@gmail.com *Empfänger:* S. Christian Collins mailto:s.chriscoll...@gmail.com *Zeit:* 2010-08-02, 04:00:28 *Betreff:* Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65 Its been a while since the topic of MIDI bank selection was discussed, so I'm frustratingly in the dark again

Re: [fluid-dev] Re: Son of ticket #65

2010-08-01 Thread S. Christian Collins
Well if a default behavior has to be honored, wouldn't supporting the GS standard of bank switching be preferable to the current implementation? From what I've read, instead of selecting a patch from bank 1, FluidSynth is selecting from the percussion banks instead. Isn't this what channel