RE: FOP JUnit test

2003-07-01 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: > I tried to produce a concept for some automated JUnit test, with > the intent to quickly uncover regressions during wholesale > refactoring. > I came up with > http://cvs.apache.org/~pietsch/FopTest.java > sample control file at > http://cvs.apache.org/~pietsch/regressio

RE: white-space-collapse property in PageNumber/PageNumberCitation

2003-07-01 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: > Apropos aural properties: anyone with enough time at hand to > make a voice renderer based on FreeTTS? :-) Actually, I have a strong interest in TTS. We are trying to work it into our proofreading cycle, so the computer reads the text out loud to a proofreader who is lookin

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread Peter B. West
I'll mention it to the PMC to see if there is consensus to take it to the Borad. I've been thinking a little about how the "management" structure can become more proactive in what is the essentially reactive environment of Open Source. One way is to try to whip up enthusiasm for projects or e

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread Peter B. West
Glen Mazza wrote: --- "Peter B. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That the semantics of the extensions have to be realized somewhere is tautological, even if those semantics are "filter out." "Tautological"? Very good, Peter, you got me--it's rare when someone makes me need to look up a word i

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Peter B. West wrote: FWIW, I think this and your earlier suggestion along these lines are excellent ideas. Ease of installation and configuration need to be given a high profile in Apache projects. As always, resourcing is the problem. Thanks. Want to take it to community@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread Glen Mazza
--- "Peter B. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That the semantics of the extensions have to be > realized somewhere is > tautological, even if those semantics are "filter > out." > "Tautological"? Very good, Peter, you got me--it's rare when someone makes me need to look up a word in the d

FOP JUnit test

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Hi all, I tried to produce a concept for some automated JUnit test, with the intent to quickly uncover regressions during wholesale refactoring. I came up with http://cvs.apache.org/~pietsch/FopTest.java sample control file at http://cvs.apache.org/~pietsch/regression.xml Overview: the control fi

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Jeremias Maerki wrote: Remember the discussions about ASF repository reorganisation on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faded off inconclusivly, except for mirroring... Maybe the Gump, Maven and Krysalis Centipede guys have ideas related to this. Ideas: yes. Solutions: m. Also keep

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Glen Mazza wrote: 1.) Discontinue the dynamic discovery and run-time adding capability of ElementMappings. -1 (a) It doesn't appear to work without source code changes anyway -- I was suspecting, and Peter had confirmed (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=105467992

Re: white-space-collapse property in PageNumber/PageNumberCitation

2003-07-01 Thread Glen Mazza
I guess we have some cleanup to do--I'll take a look at some of the FO's this weekend and report back to the team on property-removals we may need. The interesting FO's will be those which are actually utilizing invalid properties in their processing logic--hopefully there won't be many! Glen --

Re: white-space-collapse property in PageNumber/PageNumberCitation

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
J.Pietschmann wrote: Copy+paste Well, actually the FO classes were boostrapped by generating the Java classes from an XML file derived from a draft of the spec itself. Note: draft. Probably also some errors crept in during the process... J.Pietschmann --

Re: white-space-collapse property in PageNumber/PageNumberCitation

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: Question: property "white-space-collapse" (Spec 7.15.12) is defined within both PageNumber.java and PageNumberCitation.java as an integer, but according to the spec this property is not defined for these two FO's (example: http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl/slice6.html#fo_page-number, sc

white-space-collapse property in PageNumber/PageNumberCitation

2003-07-01 Thread Glen Mazza
Question: property "white-space-collapse" (Spec 7.15.12) is defined within both PageNumber.java and PageNumberCitation.java as an integer, but according to the spec this property is not defined for these two FO's (example: http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl/slice6.html#fo_page-number, scroll down to applic

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: As for using '-print' headless, some of my clients have attempted to use such a set up. IIRC, we set them up to output to '-ps' and then piped that to the 'lp'. Should we add this "workaround" to the FAQ, or is outputting to '-ps' an option when SVG is one of the inputs? Runni

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread Clay Leeds
On 7/1/2003 12:35 PM, J.Pietschmann wrote: This is silly, nobody will start the AWT renderer on a headless workstation. If you login via a text console and expect a window to pop up, you have already missed something important. Well, using the print renderer on a headless station, that's another th

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread Glen Mazza
Thanks for voting--it looks like we'll continue with dynamic adding of element mappings (thanks to Joerg and Jeremias for pointing out that the functionality *does* work--which was my major concern), but I'll move the ElementMapping code out of Driver and into FOTreeBuilder. --- "J.Pietschmann" <[

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: Unless I'm reading this wrong, this means the "headless" problem is directly related to AWT, and because Batik "uses AWT classes for rendering SVG" it is also indirectly affected. Am I correct? If so, should the "headless" FAQ really be in an AWT section, and the Batik section

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: 1.) Discontinue the dynamic discovery and run-time adding capability of ElementMappings. -1 (a) It doesn't appear to work without source code changes anyway -- I was suspecting, and Peter had confirmed (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-dev&m=105467992322684&w=2), that dynami

RE: finalize style wiki?

2003-07-01 Thread Victor Mote
I have taken a first pass at moving the style wiki to our web site. The current (unpublished) contents can be viewed at: http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/sites/xml-fop/dev/conventions.html The only intentional substance change that I made in this process is that "Fully qualify all import statements

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev conventions.xml

2003-07-01 Thread vmote
vmote 2003/07/01 11:40:26 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev conventions.xml Log: Move some of the resolved "style" wiki contents to conventions.xml. Revision ChangesPath 1.2 +62 -4 xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev/conventions.xml Ind

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: http://www.izforge.com/izpack/ (GPL) Errr...I wouldn't know for sure here, and am looking forward to being enlightened on this--but when you distribute anything with a GPL doesn't that require the rest of the app to be GPL as well? It depends on how the whole beast works and whi

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread J.Pietschmann
Jeremias Maerki wrote: Remember the discussions about ASF repository reorganisation on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faded off inconclusivly, except for mirroring... Maybe the Gump, Maven and Krysalis Centipede guys have ideas related to this. Ideas: yes. Solutions: m. Also keep an eye on Krysalis Versio

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev conventions.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-07-01 Thread vmote
vmote 2003/07/01 10:24:35 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev book.xml index.xml Added: src/documentation/content/xdocs/dev conventions.xml Log: Move "conventions" section of index.xml to a new conventions.xml document, and add it to the menu. Revision Chang

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/rtf/rtflib/rtfdoc IRtfAfterContainer.java IRtfBeforeContainer.java IRtfBookmarkContainer.java IRtfExternalGraphicContainer.java IRtfHyperLinkContainer.java IRtfJforCmdContainer.java IRtfListContainer.java IRtfPageBreakContainer.java IRtfPageContainer.java IRtfPageNumberCitationContainer.java IRtfPageNumberContainer.java IRtfParagraphContainer.java IRtfParagraphKeepTogetherContainer.java IRtfTableContainer.java IRtfTextContainer.java ITableAttributes.java IrtfTemplateContainer.java

2003-07-01 Thread vmote
vmote 2003/07/01 09:36:04 Modified:src/java/org/apache/fop/rtf/rtflib/rtfdoc IRtfAfterContainer.java IRtfBeforeContainer.java IRtfBookmarkContainer.java IRtfExternalGraphicContainer.java IRt

Re: ZIP distribution or installation program?

2003-07-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 29.06.2003 23:36:48 J.Pietschmann wrote: > Given messsages like > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-user&m=105689746128501&w=2 > should we provide the FOP distributions as ZIP files too? +1 > Then there's also > http://www.izforge.com/izpack/ > (GPL) > If somebody could have a look at i

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread Clay Leeds
On 7/1/2003 9:10 AM, Arnd Beißner wrote: If so, should the "headless" FAQ really be in an AWT section, and the Batik section provide a reference to the AWT headless issue, rather than the current way it's shown? That's debatable, I think, and depends on whether you put on a user's hat or a technica

Re: [VOTE] Move ElementMapping initialization from Driver to FOTreeBuilder

2003-07-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 01.07.2003 06:46:52 Glen Mazza wrote: > --- Victor Mote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What about instream-foreign objects that get passed > > through? SVG is the only > > one I know of, and it is hard-wired in already, but > > I'm not sure that this > > capability should be lightly tossed

Re: finalize style wiki?

2003-07-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
+1 Isn't that something I should have done months ago? Hmmm. :-) On 30.06.2003 22:38:47 Victor Mote wrote: > I have added all of the checkstyle default values into our checkstyle.cfg > file (making sure that before & after results are identical), so that it is > easier to see what our de facto st

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread Arnd Beißner
Clay Leeds wrote: > Unless I'm reading this wrong, this means the > "headless" problem is directly related to AWT, > and because Batik "uses AWT classes for rendering SVG" > it is also indirectly affected. Am I correct? Yes. Exactly. > If so, should the "headless" FAQ really be in > an AWT secti

Re: Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 01.07.2003 17:50:24 Clay Leeds wrote: > On 7/1/2003 8:22 AM, Clay Leeds wrote: > > This is just a guess, but perhaps you're running FOP headless (there's > > no monitor?). This FAQ might provide a workaround: > > > > http://xml.apache.org/fop/graphics.html#batik > > I have a question or two

Running FOP 'headless' FAQ

2003-07-01 Thread Clay Leeds
On 7/1/2003 8:22 AM, Clay Leeds wrote: This is just a guess, but perhaps you're running FOP headless (there's no monitor?). This FAQ might provide a workaround: http://xml.apache.org/fop/graphics.html#batik I have a question or two about the "headless" FAQ. This's only mentioned in the Graphics/