CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread Clay Leeds
Is it possible we could implement a system to get the CVS nightlies (src &/or bin) for fop-1.0Dev zipped and/or tar'd for simple downloading and available from the Dev tab? Having to log in with CVS access is kind of a pain, and I don't know of another way to download the stuff. It might also

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is it possible we could implement a system to get the CVS nightlies > (src &/or bin) for fop-1.0Dev zipped and/or tar'd for simple > downloading and available from the Dev tab? Having to log in with CVS > access is kind o

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread Clay Leeds
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 12:51 PM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: -Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible we could implement a system to get the CVS nightlies (src &/or bin) for fop-1.0Dev zipped and/or tar'd for simple downloading and available

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official "tag" name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Yes, standardizing language in the docs makes sense. However re-tag it in CVS? I don't think this is appropriate

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > hehehe.. That's what I was looking for (I _thought_ there was a link > like that!). Only problem is, I scoured the FOP "Home" and > "Development" tabs and couldn't find it. If I couldn't find it after > searching (& searc

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: Clay Leeds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official "tag" name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Unless I'm mistaken, the site refers to "HEAD" using the following other terms: "Redesign"

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: "Chris Bowditch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Clay Leeds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official "tag" name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Unless I'm mistaken, the site refers to "HEAD" u

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Clay Leeds
The "vote" portion relates to standardizing on a name for the Development Version. I would like this to be site-wide (and maybe I'm just the guy to do it), but for now I'm only referring to changing references on FOP/Download. (I understand it doesn't make sense to change the tag in CVS). H

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote: > hehehe.. That's what I was looking for (I _thought_ there was a link > like that!). Only problem is, I scoured the FOP "Home" and > "Development" tabs and couldn't find it. If I couldn't find it after > searching (& searching & searching...), how's the average shmoe > supposed

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote: > Perhaps it was laziness (ouch! ;-p), but I'd like to think not. I spent > 10-15 minutes looking on the site to determine where I could download > the the 1.0Dev version to test with--actually, I've gone searching a > *bunch* of times, only to get frustrated and "come back later

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The "vote" portion relates to standardizing on a name for the > Development Version. I would like this to be site-wide (and maybe I'm > just the guy to do it), but for now I'm only referring to changing > references on FO

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: (Personally, I like "FOP-1.0DR1" Hmm. I'm not sure the first release from the trunk should be an "1.0". OTOH, TRUNK and HEAD are CVS specific terms which will probably confuse the common FOP user. Too bad, I like HEAD. J.Pietschmann

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: -1 on the name. There is no such thing as FOP 1.0DR1. It is a naming convention only, and IMO, not a good one. Correct. What about "current development version"? J.Pietschmann

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: Perhaps it was laziness (ouch! ;-p), but I'd like to think not. I spent 10-15 minutes looking on the site to determine where I could download the the 1.0Dev version to test with--actually, I've gone searching a *bunch* of times, only to get frustrated and "c

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Glen Mazza
--- "Peter B. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then there is no need for us to actually construct > development > snapshots. The build process is not onerous, and it > doesn't take 12 > hours to build. > I agree--and am concerned that the primary motivation for these snapshots is Clay simp

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Peter B. West
Glen Mazza wrote: --- "Peter B. West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then there is no need for us to actually construct development snapshots. The build process is not onerous, and it doesn't take 12 hours to build. I agree--and am concerned that the primary motivation for these snapshots is Cla

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think you are being unnecessarily harsh here towards Clay, and Clay > has been getting a hard time from more that one source lately. Clay's Jeez, I hope you're not referring to my alluding to any laziness on his pa

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Clay Leeds
NOTE: some of the following may be off-topic (not to mention display my level(s) of literacy on my sleeve), but might (hopefully) prompt/continue discussion about how to improve FOP, its documentation, and overall experience (for users *&* potential developers). I definitely appreciate the vote

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (I wonder how many builds > I'll have to download before I realize the problem really is--or > isn't--my CLASSPATH)... > Ahem... Maestro, I _think_ you are, at the moment, downloading none at all :s ( Snapshots only con

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ( Snapshots only contain the sources, and compiled versions of the library > jars AFAIK. It's a BIY kit. ) > And just for the record, I should add that I _did_ succesfully build and run the 1.0Dev a little while

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Glen Mazza
*Great*--happy to hear you are getting CVS set up at work. This will help both with documentation, and later, if you desire, with coding. Now, whatever else was being discussed w.r.t. builds on the FOP site, etc., between you and the other committers & contributors, please continue on with thos

Re: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-15 Thread Clay Leeds
On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 03:48 PM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: And just for the record, I should add that I _did_ succesfully build and run the 1.0Dev a little while ago on MacOS X. You *could* experience difficulty, if you don't have the latest Java 1.4 SDK already installed --a few week

RE: CVS (src & bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Glad to hear it was working on Mac OS X. I actually haven't tried yet > on Mac OS X. I attempted to run it under Win XP Pro but got the > NoClassDefFound error. I didn't appear to need to build it, since it > contained al