Patrick Dean Rusk wrote at 17 Dec 2002 17:40:11 -0500:
Perhaps Tony knows better, but I have a potentially plausible explanation
for Sun being secretive about their project: it may not initially have
been intended for eventual open source development. In other words, it
could be a
Then I retract the suggestion.
Pat
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Patrick Dean Rusk wrote at 17 Dec 2002 17:40:11 -0500:
Perhaps Tony knows better
But it was plausible. :-)
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Then I retract the suggestion.
Pat
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and details of the Sun XSL Formatter will be known,
consequences for FOP may be discussed on a productive way.
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Arved Sandstrom wrote at 14 Dec 2002 15:05:05 -0400:
No bitterness at all, actually, Peter. It takes a bit of wind out of my
Perhaps Tony knows better, but I have a potentially plausible explanation
for Sun being secretive about their project: it may not initially have
been intended for eventual open source development. In other words, it
could be a failed internal project to create a commercial product.
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 20:01, Victor Mote wrote:
Peter S. Housel wrote:
Looks like they want to donate it to Gnome, not Apache.
AFAIR, the BSD license is pretty incompatible with the Apache license. One
of the reasons that the xmlroff announcement doesn't change my commitment to
FOP is
Arved Sandstrom wrote at 14 Dec 2002 15:05:05 -0400:
No bitterness at all, actually, Peter. It takes a bit of wind out of my
sails, sure, since xmlroff is so similar to the project that Eric Bischoff
and myself were working on. Tony has certainly been aware of that for quite
a long time -
Arved Sandstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, Java or C or C++ or Haskell, it would have been nice to have a clue.
We have an ASF tradition of developing communities...this kind of stuff
that
Sun and IBM does is getting old. Don't open-source it; sell it. I will
argue
against its adoption
Peter S. Housel wrote:
Looks like they want to donate it to Gnome, not Apache.
AFAIR, the BSD license is pretty incompatible with the Apache license. One
of the reasons that the xmlroff announcement doesn't change my commitment to
FOP is that, for my interests anyway, the Apache license is
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Arved Sandstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, Java or C or C++ or Haskell, it would have been nice to
have a clue.
We
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Peter S. Housel wrote:
Looks like they want to donate it to Gnome, not Apache.
AFAIR, the BSD license is pretty incompatible
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Victor, I
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Arved Sandstrom wrote:
But can I point out that C is about as portable as it gets?
Maybe someone on this list has time to throw
Peter S. Housel wrote:
Arved Sandstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, Java or C or C++ or Haskell, it would have been nice to have a clue.
We have an ASF tradition of developing communities...this kind of stuff
that
Sun and IBM does is getting old. Don't open-source it; sell it. I will
Response below.
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Sure, in a narrow
Peter did ask...
The Sun xmlroff XSL formatter is written in C, and it uses libxml2 and libxslt plus
the GLib, GObject, and Pango libraries that underlie GTK+ and GNOME (although it does
not require either GTK+ or GNOME).
The formatter currently
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 13, 2002 12:09 PM
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Peter did ask...
The Sun xmlroff XSL formatter is written in C, and it uses
libxml2 and libxslt plus the GLib
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Peter did ask...
Tony,
Thanks for the response. I must say, though, that had the product been
written in Java, I would have been asking the same question as Arved.
Peter
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From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: December 13, 2002 8:43 PM
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Arved Sandstrom wrote:
Not to sound bitter, but it would have been nice to know about
this sooner.
This pretty much usurps what I and Eric Bischoff have
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 09:18, Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
Hello there!
Nikolai Grigoriev discovered new xsl formatter becoming open source ;)
http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/2002/thursday.asp#vp5
Comments? Does anybody plan to participate xml 2002? Some people even
suggest it's Apache where
Keiron Liddle wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 09:18, Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
Hello there!
Nikolai Grigoriev discovered new xsl formatter becoming open source ;)
http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/2002/thursday.asp#vp5
Comments? Does anybody plan to participate xml 2002? Some people even
suggest
Keiron Liddle wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 09:18, Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
Hello there!
Nikolai Grigoriev discovered new xsl formatter becoming open source ;)
http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/2002/thursday.asp#vp5
Comments? Does anybody plan to participate xml 2002? Some people even
suggest
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