Re: Flame-fodder: Thinking about starting to release again....

2005-07-27 Thread Christian Geisert
J.Pietschmann schrieb: Jeremias Maerki wrote: I don't know of any such convention. I've seen various variants: rc, beta, previews etc. I think we're free to choose. I'd rather go for "alpha". "rc" means "release candidate", meaning Yes 0.90-alpha sounds like version number Christian

Re: Element list generation for tables (special case)

2005-07-27 Thread Andreas L Delmelle
Sorry, forgot the attachment... table-body4b.xml.head.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document On Jul 27, 2005, at 23:26, Andreas L Delmelle wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 20:45, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi, I got a test case for tables which raises not a technical but rather a interesting concept

Re: Element list generation for tables (special case)

2005-07-27 Thread Andreas L Delmelle
On Jul 27, 2005, at 20:45, Jeremias Maerki wrote: Hi, I got a test case for tables which raises not a technical but rather a interesting conceptual question. Please have a look at the attached test case. It defines a table with two columns and two rows. In the given setup the second row crea

Re: Element list generation for tables (special case)

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I was under the impression that the breaker automatically favors break decisions that take up less space. It even goes so far that if you have a minimum="0pt" and an optimum="2opt" on a space-before, that it currently chooses "0pt" which is not so good, actually. Well, we have several documented e

Re: getPageCount and FOP 1.0dev

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Right. I forgot that the AreaTreeModel keeps track of the page sequences. On 27.07.2005 21:41:27 Simon Pepping wrote: > Don't AreaTreeModel.getPageSequenceCount() and > AreaTreeModel.getPageCount(int seq) do this? AreaTreeHandler.model is > the AreaTreeModel object. > > Simon > > On Wed, Jul 27,

Re: getPageCount and FOP 1.0dev

2005-07-27 Thread Simon Pepping
Don't AreaTreeModel.getPageSequenceCount() and AreaTreeModel.getPageCount(int seq) do this? AreaTreeHandler.model is the AreaTreeModel object. Simon On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:43:50AM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Manuel, > > thanks for grabbing this. I think the easiest thing will be to recre

Re: Element list generation for tables (special case)

2005-07-27 Thread Simon Pepping
One thing that IMHO is still lacking in the table breaking code is penalty values. ATM all penalties are 0. I believe the penalty value should depend on the extra vertical size that the break contributes, that is, on the penalty's width. I have no idea about the multiplication constant, nor if it s

Element list generation for tables (special case)

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I got a test case for tables which raises not a technical but rather a interesting conceptual question. Please have a look at the attached test case. It defines a table with two columns and two rows. In the given setup the second row creates an break decision with the current code that can be argue

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 27.07.2005 15:49:02 Siarhei Baidun wrote: > Jeremias, > we consider the signing of the CCLA (corporate) , not ICLA (individual). The ICLA is mandatory for each person that intends to submit a contribution to an ASF project. The CCLA is only necessary if you work for a company and you want to m

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Siarhei Baidun
Jeremias, we consider the signing of the CCLA (corporate) , not ICLA (individual). Could you please advise if ICLAs have to be signed along with CCLA for those employees who would commit to Apache? -- Thanks, Siarhei Baidun

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Siarhei Baidun
I've just had a closer look into the JEuclid project. There seems absolutely no activity lately. That's true I'd recommend the following approach: Contact the original authors and tell them that there is interest to do some work on JEuclid, mainly to make it fit for use in FOP and to address

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I've just had a closer look into the JEuclid project. There seems absolutely no activity lately. I'd recommend the following approach: Contact the original authors and tell them that there is interest to do some work on JEuclid, mainly to make it fit for use in FOP and to address the additional re

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Siarhei Baidun
Right. For example we could provide an additional extension element under fo:root which would involve extending its contents from: (layout-master-set,declarations?,page-sequence+) to: (layout-master-set,declarations?,(page-sequence|fox:external-document)+) This way it would be possible to free

Re: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
That was to be expected. Run a "svn revert -R .". This will revert all the files to the state in the repository. Note that you will lose any changes that you made since you sent the patch. HTH. On 27.07.2005 14:17:17 Bielik, Robert wrote: > You're welcome :) However, I did a "svn up" and several .

RE: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Bielik, Robert
You're welcome :) However, I did a "svn up" and several .java files had conflict resolve markers in them (< = >). I'm not used to svn, is there something more I need to do? /Robert > -Original Message- > From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 27.07.2005 12:35:16 Siarhei Baidun wrote: > > Ah, I see. But in that case external-graphic is probably not the right > > element to use as it is an inline-level element. > > Any other ideas? > The problem is XSL-FO specification does not describes the case of embedding > external PDF files, s

Re: AW: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Please don't work on private channels. You can use the fop-dev mailing list to discuss stuff around MathML as long as there is some relation to FOP. I wasn't aware of the advanced requirements like baseline alignment and such. At any rate, the new FOP has the ideal infrastructure to handle cases l

AW: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Norman Markgraf
Thank you, Siarhei, for the explanation of the interrelationship between JEuclid and FOP. In fact that was roughly what I mean by "image". As I explained, I am not in the details. The words by Jeremias, that you can not place all element properly, might be the point that sounds the most important

Re: fop contribution

2005-07-27 Thread Siarhei Baidun
Ah, I see. But in that case external-graphic is probably not the right element to use as it is an inline-level element. Any other ideas? The problem is XSL-FO specification does not describes the case of embedding external PDF files, so there is no special element there. iText is able to han

Re: AW: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Vincent Hennebert
While we are speaking of that, If I may give my opinion: I agree with Norman that using images to render maths isn't a good solution in the long-term. The fact that it is SVG improves the situation a bit because fonts will be rendered fine, but there are other problems to address: for example it

Re: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Siarhei Baidun
Sorry to interrupt you all. But I have so concerns using JEuclid for MathML. I'm not sure if I have the permission to post here, but maybe you will excuse my post if so. I am not sure if using JEuclid is the right way to deal with MathML. As far as I understand JEuclid transforms a MathML expr

Re: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Thanks a lot, Robert. This saved me a lot of time. I've committed your patch to the repository. http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=225486&view=rev On 27.07.2005 10:56:19 Bielik, Robert wrote: > Ok, diff file is attached. build.properties and build.xml is included in it > but > I guess you can scr

Re: AW: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
The MathML extension uses JEuclid to convert the MathML to SVG internally so we get quite good quality. I don't think it is possible to create XSL-FO code from MathML because you can't properly place all the elements. Doing that with SVG is a lot better. On 27.07.2005 10:54:45 Norman Markgraf wrot

AW: MathML and barcode support for FOP

2005-07-27 Thread Norman Markgraf
Sorry to interrupt you all. But I have so concerns using JEuclid for MathML. I'm not sure if I have the permission to post here, but maybe you will excuse my post if so. I am not sure if using JEuclid is the right way to deal with MathML. As far as I understand JEuclid transforms a MathML expressi

RE: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Bielik, Robert
Ok, diff file is attached. build.properties and build.xml is included in it but I guess you can scrap that part... Regards, /Robert > -Original Message- > From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:50 AM > To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org > Subje

Re: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I see. So, do you know how to create a patch? Just run "svn diff >mydiff.txt" and send us the file. That way I don't have to recreate all your changes. Thanks in advance! On 27.07.2005 10:44:54 Bielik, Robert wrote: > No, there were a couple of other changes. They were as follows: > > 1) In PageS

RE: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Bielik, Robert
No, there were a couple of other changes. They were as follows: 1) In PageSequenceLayoutManager.java inner class PageBreaker, all 'log.' were changed to 'pslm.log.' so that the log instance in PageSeq...Manager.java is called. 2) In org.apache.fop.render.bitmap.TIFFRenderer the getLogger() call

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35534] - fo document output is placed in page margins

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Yes, please! :-) Thanks Luca. On 27.07.2005 10:21:14 Luca Furini wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > > The situation is now improved here. The missing glues are now produced but > > if there are shrink and stretch possibilities the spaces are currently not > > adjusted, i.e. differing .minimum/.o

Re: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Thanks for taking the time. Are you sure that these are all the changes that were necessary? When I change what you indicated here, I still get a few other errors. If you made more than just these modifications would you please send us a patch so I can put the changes into the repository? The thin

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35534] - fo document output is placed in page margins

2005-07-27 Thread Luca Furini
Jeremias Maerki wrote: The situation is now improved here. The missing glues are now produced but if there are shrink and stretch possibilities the spaces are currently not adjusted, i.e. differing .minimum/.optimum/.maximum values on space-before and space-after may produce undesirable results.

RE: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Bielik, Robert
Ok, I've now managed to get everything to compile alright. It wasn't really any large problems. However, there is one in Java2DRenderer.java regarding ColorModel: Original code (1001): ColorModel cm = new ComponentColorModel(ColorSpace. getInstance(ColorSpace.CS_L

Re: Building Fop 1.0dev with JDK 1.3 ??

2005-07-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 27.07.2005 08:54:27 Bielik, Robert wrote: > Phew... OK, I'll try. Though I have very limited insight into FOP to know > what my > changes would incur, and unfortunately _very_ limited time so I don't want > you to > count on me... ;) If you have very limited time then it's probably too soon

Re: getPageCount and FOP 1.0dev

2005-07-27 Thread Manuel Mall
Jeremias, Excellent, thanks for the pointers. I'll have a go at it over the coming weekend as I am going away for a few days now. Manuel On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 02:43 pm, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > Manuel, > > thanks for grabbing this. I think the easiest thing will be to recreate > what was in 0.20.5