Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Gour
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 16:07:56 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. OK, no problem. I,

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. OK, no problem. I, somehow,

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: OK, no problem. I, somehow, thought that teaching Fossil to just render using JS in the browser should not be so hard... It can do so already, but...

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Stephan Beal
Note that wiki links are generated in many places, most notably the timeline, and if those links also have to work or the solution is only a partial one. (sent from a mobile device - please excuse brevity, typos, and top-posting) - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net On Oct 3, 2014 6:02

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Note that wiki links are generated in many places, most notably the timeline, and if those links also have to work or the solution is only a partial one. I think an example of what I mean would be helpful. If I go to

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Gour
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:48:55 -0400 Trevor tre...@breksta.com wrote: Markdown is versatile, simple format but the multiplicity of standards limits its universality. I hope you can contribute to the making of such a standard. I read a bit about the endeavour to make standard version of

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
i hear you ;), but as i said at the start of this thread, i am ambivalent about which format(s) fossil supports, which may be interpreted as i don't care, as long as someone else implements it ;). That said... If you have suggestions for a generic api for arbitrary wiki parsers/filters for

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Gour
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:43:50 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: i hear you ;), but as i said at the start of this thread, i am ambivalent about which format(s) fossil supports, which may be interpreted as i don't care, as long as someone else implements it ;). Well, I am thinking

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. - stephan Sent from a mobile device, possibly from bed. Please excuse brevity and typos. On Oct 2,

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:43:50 +0200 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: That said... If you have suggestions for a generic api for arbitrary wiki parsers/filters for libfossil, i am all ears. :) As I wrote above, no

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: As for supporting in-browser wiki rendering, how about adding an option on the New Wiki Page and Edit Wiki Page pages to choose in-browser rendering? Then wrap the raw wiki mark-up with div class=wiki.raw and /div when

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: As for supporting in-browser wiki rendering, how about adding an option on the New Wiki Page and Edit Wiki Page pages to choose in-browser rendering?

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: as you might already know, I'm the primary author of libsoldout and its integration into fossil to perform markdown-to-html conversion. If you followed recent news, you might have heard of CommonMark[1], ...

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
A PS to my previous post: Maybe could call the mark up implemented by libsoldout SoldOut, a safe subset of MarkDown / CommonMark. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

[fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, as you might already know, I'm the primary author of libsoldout and its integration into fossil to perform markdown-to-html conversion. If you followed recent news, you might have heard of CommonMark[1], which is an attempt to unify most implementations and extensions of Markdown, by

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: authors hope). Fortunately, there is no rush to take such a decision, as a community we can reasonably to wait and see how CommonMark adoption pans out. [1]: http://commonmark.org/ i am completely ambivalent on

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, on Sunday 28 September 2014 at 17:58, Stephan Beal wrote: - Wiki syntaxes have always been a matter of personal taste, and there are no less than 100 different ones out there in use. To anyone who believes they can convince people to switch to a common dialect... i've got a bridge in

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: I completely share the opinion above, except I'm afraid you have misunderstood the goal of CommonMark: it's not about unifying or standardizing wiki format, only unifying Markdown. i understand that, but there are

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Hipp
http://xkcd.com/927/ -- D. Richard Hipp Sent from phone - Excuse brevity On Sep 28, 2014 12:46 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: I completely share the opinion above, except I'm afraid you have

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Trevor
Hello: Thanks Natasha, for reviewing the CommonMark specification and identifying issues applicable to your Fossil - Markdown parser. Your arguments are persuasive. Your obvious skill and knowledge about markdown and general text parsing would be of high value to the CommonMark group and I think

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Richie Adler
Stephan Beal decía, en el mensaje Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil del domingo, 28 de septiembre de 2014 13:45:58: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté nata...@instinctive.eu mailto:nata...@instinctive.eu wrote: But this is still about disambiguating