Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > Note that wiki links are generated in many places, most notably the > timeline, and if those links also have to work or the solution is only a > partial one. > I think an example of what I mean would be helpful. If I go to the New Wiki Page

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Stephan Beal
Note that wiki links are generated in many places, most notably the timeline, and if those links also have to work or the solution is only a partial one. (sent from a mobile device - please excuse brevity, typos, and top-posting) - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net On Oct 3, 2014 6:02 PM,

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Ron W
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gour wrote: > >> OK, no problem. I, somehow, thought that teaching Fossil to just render >> using JS in the browser should not be so hard... >> > > It can do so already, but... > ... > c) there isn't currently

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Gour wrote: > > That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards > > pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in > > general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. > > OK, no problem. I, somehow, thought that tea

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-03 Thread Gour
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 16:07:56 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: > That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards > pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in > general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. OK, no problem. I, somehow, thought that te

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron W wrote: > >> As for supporting in-browser wiki rendering, how about adding an option >> on the New Wiki Page and Edit Wiki Page pages to choose "in-browser >> rendering"? Then wrap the "raw" wiki mark-up

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Ron W wrote: > As for supporting in-browser wiki rendering, how about adding an option on > the New Wiki Page and Edit Wiki Page pages to choose "in-browser > rendering"? Then wrap the "raw" wiki mark-up with > and when "in-browser rendering" is chosen. > That's

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Ron W
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Gour wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:43:50 +0200 > Stephan Beal wrote: > > That said... If you have suggestions for a generic api for arbitrary > > wiki parsers/filters for libfossil, i am all ears. :) > > As I wrote above, no intention for providing general api no

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
That was unfortunately a bit optimistic of me (i tend towards pessimism in most estimates ;), for which i apologize. Wiki topics in general are way, way, way down on my list of eventual todos. - stephan Sent from a mobile device, possibly from bed. Please excuse brevity and typos. On Oct 2, 20

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Gour
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:43:50 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: > i hear you ;), but as i said at the start of this thread, i am > ambivalent about which format(s) fossil supports, which may be > interpreted as "i don't care, as long as someone else implements > it" ;). Well, I am thinking along these wor

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Stephan Beal
i hear you ;), but as i said at the start of this thread, i am ambivalent about which format(s) fossil supports, which may be interpreted as "i don't care, as long as someone else implements it" ;). That said... If you have suggestions for a generic api for arbitrary wiki parsers/filters for libfo

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-10-02 Thread Gour
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:48:55 -0400 Trevor wrote: > Markdown is versatile, simple format but the multiplicity of > "standards" limits its universality. I hope you can contribute > to the making of such a standard. I read a bit about the endeavour to make standard version of Markdown, but here I'd

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
A PS to my previous post: Maybe could call the mark up implemented by libsoldout "SoldOut, a safe subset of MarkDown / CommonMark". ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-29 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Natacha Porté wrote: > as you might already know, I'm the primary author of libsoldout and its > integration into fossil to perform markdown-to-html conversion. > > If you followed recent news, you might have heard of CommonMark[1], > ... > Unfortunately, the arc

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Richie Adler
Stephan Beal decía, en el mensaje "Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil" del domingo, 28 de septiembre de 2014 13:45:58: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté <mailto:nata...@instinctive.eu>> wrote: > But this is still about disambigu

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Trevor
Hello: Thanks Natasha, for reviewing the CommonMark specification and identifying issues applicable to your Fossil - Markdown parser. Your arguments are persuasive. Your obvious skill and knowledge about markdown and general text parsing would be of high value to the CommonMark group and I think

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Hipp
http://xkcd.com/927/ -- D. Richard Hipp Sent from phone - Excuse brevity On Sep 28, 2014 12:46 PM, "Stephan Beal" wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté > wrote: > >> I completely share the opinion above, except I'm afraid you have >> misunderstood the goal of CommonMark: it's

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Natacha Porté wrote: > I completely share the opinion above, except I'm afraid you have > misunderstood the goal of CommonMark: it's not about unifying or > standardizing wiki format, only unifying Markdown. > i understand that, but there are several competing di

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, on Sunday 28 September 2014 at 17:58, Stephan Beal wrote: > - Wiki syntaxes have always been a matter of personal taste, and there are > no less than 100 different ones out there in use. To anyone who believes > they can convince people to switch to a "common" dialect... i've got a > bridge

Re: [fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Natacha Porté wrote: > authors hope). Fortunately, there is no rush to take such a decision, as > a community we can reasonably to wait and see how CommonMark adoption > pans out. > > [1]: http://commonmark.org/ i am completely ambivalent on the topic of which w

[fossil-users] Pessimism about CommonMark in fossil

2014-09-28 Thread Natacha Porté
Hello, as you might already know, I'm the primary author of libsoldout and its integration into fossil to perform markdown-to-html conversion. If you followed recent news, you might have heard of CommonMark[1], which is an attempt to unify most implementations and extensions of Markdown, by provi