[fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-04 Thread Ramon Ribó
Dear list members, We are currently using cvs to maintain many different projects in our company. After reviewing fossil, it looks as a very nice piece of software that can make a much better job than cvs for our development needs. So, we are considering the possibility of moving into fossil

[fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Ramon Ribó
1- If someone wants to create a new cvs2fossil, what command can be used to commit a file with an ancient date? 2- How to revert a file to a different version but saving with a different name? ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-04 Thread D. Richard Hipp
On Oct 4, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Ramon Ribó wrote: > > 2- Why is it not possible to start a new fossil directory inside a > subdirectory of another fossil directory? This is a structure that we >use very often with cvs. I do not see the technical difficulties > for this. Just when descending or asc

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-04 Thread Ramon Ribó
Thanks for the answers. More comments: > Why not just check out the whole thing?  What is the point of checking > out a partial tree?  Are you really that short of disk space? Of course, this is not a disk space issue. There are several reasons to consider it as an advantage: - Some packages are

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread D. Richard Hipp
On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Ramon Ribó wrote: > 1- If someone wants to create a new cvs2fossil, what command can be > used to commit a > file with an ancient date? Use undocumented flags to commit: --date-override 2009-10-06T12:34:56 --user-override userid > > 2- How to revert a

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Andreas Kupries
D. Richard Hipp wrote: > On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Ramon Ribó wrote: > >> 1- If someone wants to create a new cvs2fossil, what command can be >> used to commit a >> file with an ancient date? > > Use undocumented flags to commit: > > --date-override 2009-10-06T12:34:56 > --user-ov

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Ramon Ribó
> Oh. I didn't know about these (while writing cvs2fossil). Which is why I put > this information into the new commit message. Since when do they exist ? Andreas, I see that you are the developer of cvs2fossil. I have tried it and I have had some problems with it (the details are in another mess

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Andreas Kupries
Ramon Ribó wrote: >> Oh. I didn't know about these (while writing cvs2fossil). Which is why I put >> this information into the new commit message. Since when do they exist ? > > Andreas, I see that you are the developer of cvs2fossil. I have tried it > and I > have had some problems with it (th

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Ramon Ribó
Andreas, The problems were: 1- I have been trying to use the tool cvs2fossil with a simple, few files, no branches, small cvs project. For testing. Results: a) changed tag branch ---> branch new in file c2f_fossil.tcl (this error has been discussed in the list but is not corrected in the

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil

2009-10-07 Thread Daniel Clark
Andreas Kupries wrote: > Ramon Ribó wrote: > What about the third option ? I.e. editing cvs2fossil instead of developing > from scratch ? Another option: write fossil support for tailor - http://progetti.arstecnica.it/tailor - which would give migration support to a large number of other VCS / D

[fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-15 Thread Carson Chittom
While I realize that this is a somewhat different emphasis than fossil's usual orientation, I have suggested to my work superiors that fossil may be usable for us as a document repository, given its (lack of) cost and its additional features we could leverage. Almost exclusively, the documents we

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-07 Thread Rene de Zwart
I wonder what the sequence is for importing cvs files into fossil. I tried to get it from cvs2fossil but got lost. first you need to get a commit identifier? assume the following cvs-repository 'example' first.c with rev 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 second.c with rev 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 and only one user user1 co

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-07 Thread Andreas Kupries
Rene de Zwart wrote: > I wonder what the sequence is for importing cvs files into fossil. I tried > to get it from cvs2fossil but got lost. > > first you need to get a commit identifier? > assume the following cvs-repository 'example' > first.c with rev 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 > second.c with rev 1.1 1.2

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-07 Thread Andreas Kupries
Andreas Kupries wrote: > See file > c2f_fossil.tcl > > That contains the code exec'ing fossil. > Look for the 'Do ...' calls. > > cvs2fossil basically imports the files first, by revision, using some test- > commands to setup the delta-chain. Then it uses some more test- commands to > im

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-08 Thread Rene de Zwart
> Andreas Kupries wrote: > >> See file >> c2f_fossil.tcl >> >> That contains the code exec'ing fossil. >> Look for the 'Do ...' calls. >> >> cvs2fossil basically imports the files first, by revision, using some >> test- >> commands to setup the delta-chain. Then it uses some more test- command

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-08 Thread Andreas Kupries
Rene de Zwart wrote: >> Andreas Kupries wrote: >>> See file >>> c2f_fossil.tcl >> #!/bin/sh > echo fossil $* >> /your/log/file > rc=`__fossil $*` > echo $rc >> /your/log/file > echo $rc Right, the result of the command can be of interest too. And the $? vari

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-08 Thread Rene de Zwart
> Rene de Zwart wrote: >>> Andreas Kupries wrote: See file c2f_fossil.tcl > >>> #!/bin/sh >> echo fossil $* >> /your/log/file >> rc=`__fossil $*` >> echo $rc >> /your/log/file >> echo $rc > > Right, the result of the command can be of interest too. > An

Re: [fossil-users] Some questions about fossil [importing cvs]

2009-10-08 Thread Andreas Kupries
Rene de Zwart wrote: > there is one slight problem ;-) > > fossil get feed with > fossil test-import-manifest 1255003794 By renez: example repostory -f > 2 example/first > > instead of > fossil test-import-manifest 1255003794 "By renez: example repostory" > -f 2 example/first Ok. This ma

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-16 Thread C. Thomas Stover
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:37:46 -0600 Carson Chittom wrote: > While I realize that this is a somewhat different emphasis than > fossil's usual orientation, I have suggested to my work superiors > that fossil may be usable for us as a document repository, given its > (lack of) cost and its additional

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-16 Thread Carson Chittom
"C. Thomas Stover" writes: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:37:46 -0600 > Carson Chittom wrote: > >> While I realize that this is a somewhat different emphasis than >> fossil's usual orientation, I have suggested to my work superiors >> that fossil may be usable for us as a document repository, given it

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-16 Thread C. Thomas Stover
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:11:49 -0600 Carson Chittom wrote: > Yes, basically, it's the "probably should save for later" need--mostly > for legal reasons. Currently all this is in hardcopy, as I mentioned, > the volume of which has reached such a level as to be simply > impenetrable; part of the rea

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-16 Thread Tomek Kott
t while viewing the original scanned copy. I do this for bills and such at home. I personally don't see fossil as the right tool for a document repo. Tomek > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:33:09 -0600 > From: c...@thomasstover.com > To: fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > Subject: Re

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-16 Thread Graeme Gill
C. Thomas Stover wrote: > On the other hand, if you are trying to do actual collaborative work on > documents, then it is absolutely critical that in addition to a SCM > system (fossil would be great), that you move to a text/source based > document generation technology. The real problem is a la

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread Carson Chittom
Tomek Kott writes: > Might I suggest the following two tools as better suited for this sort > of endeavor? > > 1) Zotero - http://www.zotero.org/ This looks very interesting, and I can see where I might find a use for it myself in my personal life. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be a sol

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread Carson Chittom
"C. Thomas Stover" writes: > Well if hardcopy means scanned paper (no ocr) then it sounds like a > very large binary file set. I'm showing my ignorance, but does OCR matter in this case? We already have OCR capabilities, and I had intended to scan in the documents using it--because, why not, i

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread C. Thomas Stover
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:55:09 -0600 Carson Chittom wrote: > "C. Thomas Stover" writes: > > > Well if hardcopy means scanned paper (no ocr) then it sounds like a > > very large binary file set. > > I'm showing my ignorance, but does OCR matter in this case? We > already have OCR capabilities,

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM, C. Thomas Stover wrote: > both images and text can be stored, the scanner software/firmware will > OCR what it can and then mix that with little cropped images. This of > course leads to the "your mileage may very" file sizes. > FWIW: if the documents are having t

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:53:43 +0100, C. Thomas Stover wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:55:09 -0600 Carson Chittom wrote: "C. Thomas Stover" writes: > Well if hardcopy means scanned paper (no ocr) then it sounds like a > very large binary file set. I'm showing my ignorance, but does OCR matt

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread C. Thomas Stover
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:48:20 +0100 Stephan Beal wrote: > FWIW: if the documents are having to be archived "for legal reasons" > then the OCR versions are essentially only useful for convenience in > searching, and not for legal purposes. that's good information to know On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:51

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread Carson Chittom
Stephan Beal writes: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM, C. Thomas Stover > wrote: > >> both images and text can be stored, the scanner software/firmware will >> OCR what it can and then mix that with little cropped images. This of >> course leads to the "your mileage may very" file sizes. >> > >

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread David Baxendale (GMail - Singapore)
ave found it an indispensable tool for managing and finding information. -- Regards, David Baxendale Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:31:59 -0500 From: Tomek Kott To: Fossil SCM user's discussion Subject: Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo Mess

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-17 Thread John Griessen
On 01/17/2013 02:29 PM, Carson Chittom wrote: But these are not "legal" documents in the sense I think you mean--contracts, etc. Our lawyer keeps those. Our use case is more of a question of one of our staff being able to find something that documents that previously we did x in case y, so if w

Re: [fossil-users] some questions about fossil-as-document-repo

2013-01-18 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 09:33:05AM +0800, David Baxendale (GMail - Singapore) wrote: > I don't think Fossil is the right tool for this, take a look at Calibre > (http://calibre-ebook.com/) as an Open Source document management > system, not just an e-book reader. Calibre can't handle severa