Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jalo wrote: > To me, it works. Which browser are you using? Firefox 7.0.1 on OS X 10.6.6, not logged into anything. Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikim

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:47 PM, The Cunctator wrote: > On 10/4/11, Mathias Schindler wrote: >> How many inches are we away from keeping a list of politicians and >> parties we endorse in national, state and regional elections? > > That's stupid. I think that was his point. Austin _

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > Make a logout and after make a new login. I wasn't logged in, to begin with. I was looking at it as any casual reader would. Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > There seems to be a situation developing at Italian Wikipedia related to a > local law that would infringe neutrality on Wikipedia. The discussions even > mention a possible blackout/lockdown in reaction. Currently, anything I try to access at it

Re: [Foundation-l] Showdown

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > The evidence is in. > > Wanton > vandalism > > Your move. I'm not sure whose move it is, exact

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Domas Mituzas wrote: >>> I'm told volunteers are capable of editing wiki pages and posting to >>> mailing lists. I haven't been able to independently verify this, though. >> >> I'm told that some volunteers can be extremely obnoxious too. > > Eh,

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: > As the Board Liaison for the election committee I would like to ask for a > little more patience on their behalf. > > Our chosen election system has several checks and balances and it does not > help matters that we are making use of a

[Foundation-l] Election results?

It's now the afternoon of the 17th (UTC), and this list—of which I have the dubious distinction of being custodian—hasn't seen a single thread about the WMF board election results. I'm honestly not sure if I should be proud of or disappointed with you guys. In any case, I beg your forgiveness when

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > This is the error message that appeared for me (and apparently others): > http://nomulous.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/wikipedia_error.png I won't continue arguing about whether or not it should say "planned," but I do have to say th

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: > That's interesting, what was the wording for the maintenance message? I only > ever saw the default "our servers are experiencing a technical problem" > error page. I could be misremembering, because I honestly didn't care that much, but I

Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects on May 24

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:32 AM, FT2 wrote: > I don't get this. > > Would it be possible in future, if the sites are unresponsive, or will be > unresponsive due to planned maintenance, to establish a fallback that simply > displays an explanatory status message to the public? Would it have change

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for moderation of Dan Rosenthal and Andrew Garrett

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > After a cool off period of about 48 hours and considerable > reflection, it is my conviction that the posts of two above mentioned > editors should be moderated from now on. As administrators, it's our policy not to take punitive act

Re: [Foundation-l] BNR: "Less writers on wikipedia due to agression" (dutch)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > See >         > http://www.bnr.nl/programma/bnrdigitaal/2011/03/30/minder-schrijvers-wikipedia-door-agressie1 Dit is niet nieuw, natuurlijk. I've lived in the Netherlands for a year, now, and I've never heard of BNR—but then, I don't listen

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia ZA] Wikimedia ZA APPROVED!

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Lourie Pieterse > Date: Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:44 AM > Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Wikimedia ZA APPROVED! > To: WikimediaZA > > The chapter just got approved by the WMF! > > http://wikimediafoun

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Austin Hair wrote: > 2011/3/20 Jon Harald Søby : >> Input can be posted here, on [[m:Talk:Board >> elections/2011]]<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Board_elections/2011>or >> to the board elections list, >> board-electi...@l

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed

2011/3/20 Jon Harald Søby : > Input can be posted here, on [[m:Talk:Board > elections/2011]]or > to the board elections list, > board-electi...@lists.wikimedia.org. We're looking forward to hearing your > thoughts on the matter! So, Jon pos

Re: [Foundation-l] 2011 Board Elections: Input needed

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Harel Cain wrote: > Before we start extending the right to vote to ever wider groups of people, > we should ask ourselves how much this right is exercised by those already > entitled to it, and how many of those proposed to be granted the right to > vote are expec

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > However... wikies-l is about spanish wikipedia issues, and certainly > not the place to talk with people related to foundation/wikimedia > global matters. No, certainly not. But given that she typed "NO ENTIENDO" several times, in all caps,

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> Do we have a multilingual mailing list? >> >> I think it would be a good idea to have a general discussion list >> where anyone, especially newbies, can write in their preferred >> lang

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM, MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA wrote: >  NO ENTIENDO INGLES . POR FAVOR ESPAÑOL...GRACIAS Hola, Maria, Hablamos inglés en esta lista. Quizás usted prefiere la lista de la Wikipedia en español, que se encuentra en https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/w

Re: [Foundation-l] The matrix, reloaded (movement roles, or who does what in Wikimedia?)

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > I left a message on the talk page about the definition of "groups" in the > context of Movement Roles Project last week. I also brought this up in the > IRC hour a week ago. I know the intention here is to be as inclusive as > possible, but can w

Re: [Foundation-l] The matrix, reloaded (movement roles, or who does what in Wikimedia?)

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:54 PM, FT2 wrote: > Apologies for my unusual denseness here, but this matrix makes no sense to > me, and lacks any information needed for constructive improvement. > > What I'd be looking for is a description of what the role and responsibility > is, in each box. Knowing

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >> Lodewijk: Gerard, this wouldn't really help to attract more new female >> users. > > Could you please tell me why? I can set my preferences to "male" or > "female", but i can't see my "user" page with my real gender. And yes, that > is a matte

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > And do you want it to be implemented :) But that question is to be > answered on a community level of course - but I guess there are a few > potential reasons why they might not want to implement it: [...] > * Although grammatically correct, I wo

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes to the identification policies and procedures

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: >> From: Steven Walling >> Demanding  answers on Foundation-l is a lot different than the news about an >> upcoming  change trickling out into the community prior to an official >> announcement.  The latter does no harm. The former can derail a p

Re: [Foundation-l] Downtime error message turned into monolingual

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Domas Mituzas wrote: >> Like you say, though, it's definitely a technical issue to be taken up >> elsewhere. > > Where you will be told that this is 'working as intended'. & is usually > sent in URLs by broken clients, so we block them as early as possible. With

Re: [Foundation-l] Downtime error message turned into monolingual

2010/12/10 KIZU Naoko : > And thank you for noticing me/us it's somehow weird. Without the > entity "&" it works - so we might find two things to fix. I'll > later file the bug on the entity related thing, it seems a pure > technical thing and need to dig up further here. The issue there is that y

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Executive Director?

2010/12/9 Huib Laurens : > Am I placed on moderation? all my previous emails seem to fail? You are definitely not on moderation, and I don't see any record of you ever being on moderation. If you have any doubts about whether a message of yours has gone through, you can contact me or any other ad

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Executive Director?

2010/12/9 KIZU Naoko : > I don't support this word choice: on twitter.com Japanese speaking > reader mistook it as "one of English Wikipedia admins" "someone who > writes articles" etc. > > Not only "smaller" projects but also on the Wikipedia, this factual > error is better to correct I think. I h

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 81, Issue 3

2010/12/3 Huib Laurens : > I mailed to all moderators but I guess none of them are online in this > timezone? Sorry about that. I was awake (I'm in CET), but I hadn't looked at my e-mail in 30 minutes or so. I suspect we'll never hear from him again, but if he does manage to write something cohe

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 81, Issue 1

o approve any e-mail you send to the list as long as we believe you're going to continue posting in this way. Cheers, Austin Hair List administrator 2010/12/3 Корецкий Богдан : > 1: Maybe. > 2: Maybe. > 3: Maybe. > 4: Maybe. > 5: M

[Foundation-l] Movement roles

Hi all, The Movement Roles project continues, and many people with many unique perspectives are already actively participating. For those of you not closely following our work on the wiki[0], I want to bring two things to your attention: 1. We will have a meeting on IRC[1] today, 5 November, at

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban

Just for your information, Houston Navarro has been moderated for being Greg Kohs. Pro tip: bcc'ing a bunch of list subscribers with a fake "[Foundation-l]" subject isn't very sneaky, particularly when the return-path header says "thekoh...@gmail.com." Greg, the sooner you grow up, the happier th

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Austin Hair wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Anthony wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Austin Hair wrote: >>>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Anthony wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Austin Hair wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Anthony wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM,   wrote: >>>> On 24/10/2010 14:20, Fred Bauder wrote: >>>>&

Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM,   wrote: >> On 24/10/2010 14:20, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> Taking this problem seriously, how can we mitigate misplaced reliance? >> >> Well you could put a banner above every article that read "The >> information con

Re: [Foundation-l] Ban and moderate

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell wrote: > I am listening, and do hear what you are saying, Fred. But banishment from > something, whether it be from a working project or a country, means that > person is being openly, or even surreptitiously, destructive of the body, > the substance,

Re: [Foundation-l] Attack pages at Encyc. Dramatica

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, James Heilman wrote: > Encyc. Dramatica seems too take pride in creating attack pages regarding > Wikipedians. Of course they are exposing themselves to libel suits but > looking at some of the rest of their site this seems to be the least of > their worries with a

Re: [Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Nathan wrote: > If it pleases the moderators, might we know on what basis Greg was > banned and Peter indefinitely muzzled? Greg Kohs was banned for the same reason that he's been on moderation for the better part of the past year—namely, that he was completely un

[Foundation-l] Movement roles update and meeting on 21 October

t_roles_project. We are particularly interested to hear your answers to the list of questions we plan to ask Wikimedians, which you can see at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_project/Questionnaire On behalf of the working group, Austin Hair _

[Foundation-l] Greg Kohs and Peter Damian

Hi guys, After extensive discussion among the list administrators, we've enacted, for the first time, a permanent ban of a mailing list member. Greg Kohs is no longer welcome to participate on Foundation-l. Peter Damian has also been moderated once again, and will remain on moderation for the in

Re: [Foundation-l] Liu Xiaobo

Peter has been placed on moderation as a preventive measure. If future posts are still civil, irrespective of sanity considerations, we'll let them through. Austin On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Peter Damian wrote: > I don't know why such fuss has been made in the media about this.  Under >  

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Kosovo Chapter? Re: Fwd: SFK100 Press Release

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > Plus to convince voting ChapCom members enough that it is good idea to > convince WM Serbia that it is a good idea. > > As a non-voting member of ChapCom and Board member of WM RS I can > confirm that the harder task is to convince ChapCom. A

[Foundation-l] Movement roles

For those who haven't been following the movement roles work on meta[0], I wanted to take a minute for blatant self-promotion. Of particular note is the initial proposal[1], which we're trying to wrap up before the WMF Board meeting in just over a week. Those of you thinking that this is happenin

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, geni wrote: > On 22 September 2010 13:26, Austin Hair wrote: >> This process will be transparent, and open to input from anyone >> interested.  It's planned to take approximately one year, with regular >> milestones along the

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > thanks for sending around. Could you just give a link to where exactly on > the wiki you would "the discussion" (very broad term :) ) like to take > place? Which topics do you especially invite people to discuss /now/? Great questions, Lodewijk.

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia movement roles project

will be tasked with ensuring that steady progress is being made toward those milestones. Although the exact makeup of the group may change as specific needs are reevaluated, this working group currently comprises: * Alice Wiegand * Arne Klempert * Austin Hair (facilitator and adviser) * Barry N

Re: [Foundation-l] Why should Wikimedians meet?

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 31 July 2010 16:27, David Gerard wrote: >> On 31 July 2010 16:21, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> >>> But all of the above are nice dreams about the future. Is there any >>> proven experience from the past that demonstrates why personal >>> me

Re: [Foundation-l] Boycott in a...@wiki

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > The Acehnese Wikipedia is a young project. They are entitled to their > mistakes. It is for this reason important that we first talk with them about > what it is that they do. We should not start talking TO them about what they > are to do.

Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to Foundation Website

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Mike Godwin wrote: > I've never known a VIP environment that would accept me as a member. And you'd presumably never want to belong to a VIP environment that would accept you as a member.[1] Austin [1] http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Groucho_Marx _

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > I don't know why you bothered putting him on moderation if you were > just going to forward all of his emails to the list. Please, keep the > discussion off this list, in order to prevent the disruption which you > sought to limit by placin

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Rich Holton wrote: > Please, someone confirm for me that he was not put on moderation because of > his views, but rather because of his behavior! Yes, and I think I said as much at the time. Austin ___ foundation-l mai

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l

Andre, I think you and I are doomed to be forever confused with each other. Austin -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeffrey Peters <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> Date: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM Subject: Foundation-l To: adh...@gmail.com Dear Andre, I already removed my access

Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Andre Engels wrote: > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters > <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: >> Austin, >> >> Maybe you didn't realize but I am the top organizer of Wikiversity. Gerard's >> call for political activism against that organization is

Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Jeffrey Peters <17pet...@cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: > David Gerard, > > This list is not for your political advocacy. > > Now, stop trolling. > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122367645363324303.html > > The founder of Creative Commons is a very prominent pirat

Re: [Foundation-l] Community, collaboration, and cognitive biases

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > 2) Make sure that every paid developer spends time dealing with the > community.  This can include giving support to end users, discussing > things with volunteers, reviewing patches, etc.  They should be doing > this on paid time, and they sh

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Chad wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Birgitte SB wrote: >> --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Victor Vasiliev wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:42 AM, >>> Michael Snow >>> wrote: >>> > If you don't know the history of racial issues in the >>> US, you might not >>> >

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > In short, there is little reason for a sophisticated user to complain > about this for their own benefit. > > I think the people here are speaking up for the sake of the readers, > and for the sake of preserving the best of the existing des

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a BadIdea, part 2

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:03 PM, wrote: > Austin, think about who "everyone" is.  The folks here on foundation-l are > not representative of readers.  The job of the user experience team is to try > to balance all readers' needs, which is not easy, and will sometimes involve > making decisions

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:47 PM, David Levy wrote: > Austin Hair wrote: > >> And yes, I'll echo others when I question the original rationale and >> suggest that the interpretation of what very little data was collected >> is completely wrong, but I think I'll dir

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:30 AM, David Levy wrote: > Howie Fung wrote: >> While we did not explicitly test for this during our usability studies >> (e.g., it wasn't included as a major design question), we did exercise >> judgement in identifying this as a problem, based partly on the applying >> t

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

2010/6/4 Jon Harald Søby : > When you are monolingual and are already on your > native language Wikipedia there isn't really a lot of use in going to > another language. What's more, when that language is the one with the largest Wikipedia, you're likely to find the most comprehensive article of a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > This entire thread is giving me an inferiority complex. > > Luckily, I claim Canada because my family is from there a couple > generations back. I once dated a girl from Minnesota—that's like the same thing, right? Austin _

Re: [Foundation-l] hiding interlanguage links by default is a Bad Idea, part 2

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > Who cares if people click them a lot?  The space they formally > occupied is filled with nothing now. > > They were equally valuable as a marketing statement about the breadth > and inclusiveness of our project as they were as a navigational

Re: [Foundation-l] The new Wikipedia logo-v2 is ugly

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Teofilo wrote: > When I read and edited the English language wikipedia this morning, I > saw that the logo had changed. I had a strange feeling, at first not > being sure if this was only a feeling of surprise or if there was some > real problem with that new logo

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Austin Hair wrote: >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: >>> I think you missed it because it wasn't really discussed before as >>> part of the vector u

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > I think you missed it because it wasn't really discussed before as > part of the vector update... right? I admit I didn't read all the > announcements, but was this discussed/announced earlier? That's the point I was trying not to be a jerk a

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > However, I am missing why it was decided to decrease the size of the > logo. It definitely looks more professional, but also somewhat less > friendly to me. Maybe it is just me, maybe not - I just would like to > understand the rationale first. >

[Foundation-l] Jimmy, Commons, and the discussion on Foundation-l

tio fairly high despite the large volume of messages. With this in mind, I'm hopeful that you can direct your energies in the most productive way possible. Thanks, Austin Hair List administration ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@list

Re: [Foundation-l] Copyrighted maps and Derived works from copyrighted sources.

u can find others willing to engage in reasonable discussion without repeating the same arguments ad infinitum. Regards, Austin Hair List Administrator ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Status report on logo copyright issues at Swedish Wikipedia

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:40 AM, David Castor wrote: > My name is David Castor and I am known on Swedish Wikipedia (and less known > but somewhat active on Commons and a few foreign language Wikipedias) by the > user name dcastor. I am one of the users who have been pushing for a change > in the

Re: [Foundation-l] How to reply to a mailing list thread

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Svip wrote: > Indeed, posting on a mailinglist is all about respect for the other > clients.  And boosting your own client as superior and thus not > needing to bother with etiquette seems a bit... ignorant or arrogant. > I can understand people not being aware of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is fun

a namespace on the English Wikipedia, and you're probably best off finding people who know where to direct you. Cheers, Austin Hair Foundation-l Administrator [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:17 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Erik Möller -- > > You're the second-in-command at the Wikimedia Foundation and one of the > people most directly responsible for Wikimedia's technology. > > FlaggedRevisions has been promised on the English Wikipedia for months and > months and m

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner, Erik Möller , Will iam Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:18 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > You're up. You're moderated. I gave you fair warning; I even acknowledged that you had a valid point to be made, if you just didn't act like a jerk about it. Even your new thread is plainly hostile, for reasons I don't claim to understand. Onc

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner, Erik Möller , Will iam Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?

MZMcBride, You raise a legitimate point, and I don't mean to silence discussion on the topic—I'm curious to know, myself—but please keep a civil tongue. As we've seen from the various replies, your approach is making for a hostile thread; this is not only unpleasant, but also extremely unproducti

Re: [Foundation-l] commercial use of wikipedia content

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Istvan Soos wrote: > I'm evaluating our legal options around commercially using wikipedia > content, if this is not the right forum, please let me know / forward > the question. It might be that the method I describe is not legally > possible, so if there is any si

Re: [Foundation-l] Everything okay?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > Internal-l is pretty active, with 5 posts in the same period, and > there's been a few topics on wikien-l in the last few days which might > have been posted here instead if they came up a week ago. I think > we're seeing more of a choice of f

Re: [Foundation-l] Everything okay?

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > No posts in over half a day. Is everyone simply scared? The list is open for traffic, and there are no pending moderation requests. I think everyone's simply respecting the now more heavily-enforced atmosphere of only posting when you have some

Re: [Foundation-l] List moderation

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > I'm taking the liberty of putting foundation-l on temporary moderation. > Seriously, guys -- take the "who's a bigger jerk" threads offlist. > > The regular list mods may reconfigure any way they like once they wake up. I woke up to this a cou

Re: [Foundation-l] Announce: Brion moving to StatusNet

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > (Remember when CompuServe and AOL users couldn't email each other? Hah!) Speaking as a former CompuServe user, I remember those days fondly... Austin ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lis

Re: [Foundation-l] Strategic planning task force application

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: > This is a textbook example of what does not belong on foundation-l. > Please feel free to send private emails when you have a message for just > one person, rather than sending it to approximately a thousand people. Mike, Did you get my me

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009-

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> Wow, that's... pretty offensive, actually. > > If you are offended by statements of fact, that is your problem. I think it's fairly clear that I dispute the factualness of your statement. > Last time I checked, being a non-profit (and a ch

Re: [Foundation-l] Report to the Board of Trustees June 2009-

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > While that is true, it is also important to remember that most people > setting up a chapter have next to no experience of running a > non-profit. They don't know what is and isn't appropriate to spend > donations on, they don't necessarily k

Re: [Foundation-l] Moderate this list

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote: > A bit of an aside: One of the best ideas I've seen in a collaborative > tool in the past 10 years was in a project called H2O that came out of > the Berkman Center in its early days. The idea? People could only post > once a day. It's built

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Seems to me that the mailing list is working just fine, despite a few > people who complain far too much about the volume of traffic, or about > the occasional tendency to irrelevant comments. They need to exercise a > little more patience a

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Henning Schlottmann wrote: > Austin Hair wrote: >> My ideal, personally, is something more like nntp--and while I'm >> perfectly happy to turn over the list to some other technology, I >> don't know that this is the magic solution,

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> wine-users - http://forum.winehq.org/ >> >> It started as a mailing list, then the forum was set up with a two-way >> gateway. The forum is where most of the posters actually post from, >> but so far it works ... surprisi

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Brian wrote: > Austin, your page says nothing about the kinds of conversations you would > like to see on foundation-l. You're right, it doesn't. I don't see it as my place to dictate, and I'm looking for most of the input to come from others. I do, however, hope

Re: [Foundation-l] Use of moderation

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > I'd prefer that moderation of this list be used as a last resort to > maintain civil discourse and not as a tool to impose an external view > of the desired traffic volume and especially not in a way which could > be construed as prohibiting

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF seeking to sub-lease office space?

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Gregory Kohs wrote: > When the Watergate story broke, it was felt to be a largely "contained" > story. Leslie Stahl once commented, *"*CBS sent me. It was a measure of how > unimportant CBS thought the story was in the beginning." As more > information seeped out,

Re: [Foundation-l] Email list archives

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > I hope you don't mind my raising this issue here - it's a technical issue > affecting all wikimedia email lists so I thought this would be as good a > place as any. wikitech-l might be more appropriate, but I think I can shed some light on

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: >> [Greg] >> I'm interested in knowing the nature of the error (understanding is >> the key to avoidance in the future!) >> >> I'd also like to know if any users were denied the ability to vote who >> should have been permitted on account

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Election vote strikes

Forwarded from Betsy Megas, who's subscribed under a different address. Please read. Austin -- Forwarded message -- From: Betsy Megas Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:26 PM Subject: Election vote strikes To: "foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org" Due to an error in a script t

Re: [Foundation-l] presentations and marketing @ events

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > The annual report is pretty shiny. Did people like it? Who did that > layout and design? The 'news' parts of the annual would make for a > good one-pager in a modern kit. And a monthly summary of Signpost, > Kurier, and equivalent zines with

Re: [Foundation-l] presentations and marketing @ events

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Do we have a modern press kit? I was looking for one the other day... > Elian's is still up on meta, but not updated. That page should be > tagged with a link to the current equivalent, or at least marked > historical. Has anyone been workin

Re: [Foundation-l] Stevertigo

nted from posting to the list, only that we look at your posts before sending them on. Had you posted on another topic, your message would have been sent on within a few hours. > Also for the record, I emailed Austin Hair twice for an explanation of > the block, and his one terse reply indicate

Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: > The foundation is not really like en.WP bumped up another level. We rarely > get into policing such issues on this mailing list and that is nowhere near > past tolerance levels, because of among other things features in this medium > that ar

Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution mailing list

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:12 PM, stevertigo wrote: > I started a thread on Wikien-l last month suggesting we start a > dispute resolution mailing list: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2009-June/101428.html > > Responses were largely positive, and what little criticism the idea > got

Re: [Foundation-l] Goodbye

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Michael Bimmler wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to use this opportunity to say "Goodbye" to all of you, > because my involvement with Wikimedia is now coming to an end. Let me just repeat my thanks for all the work you've done, and say that you'll be missed.

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