Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
Please don't assume I disagree with all objections that could possibly be made, just because I disagree that the one's which had been presented so far are very significant. I sincerely hope this program is more decentralized then any other program being run right now. It seems to be in rather

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-27 Thread Birgitte_sb
It seems to me that there has been a quite a variety of results to booster activities, and that the poorest results have come from random educators who decide to make a Wikipedia class project without consulting any veteran editors rather than from people more thoroughly exposed to the sausage

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-25 Thread Birgitte_sb
Hi Birgitte I greatly respect your opinion, and rarely found myself disagreeing with you. I didn't want to reply in-line because I believe majority of your opinions stem from the wisdom of the crowd model, which might best describe the wiki model and the assumption that, it will continue

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:07 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation in Wikimedia's projects is our top

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-21 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:53 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: Everybody knows that reversing stagnating/declining participation in Wikimedia's projects is our top priority. Thank you for sharing this. How much discussion has there been internally about this

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter

2012-03-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Neil Babbage n...@thebabbages.com wrote: If you ran a charity store committed to providing educational products free to all who needed them you wouldn't get many children as customers

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/9/11 3:47 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: It seems to me that these changes are about making chapters more into franchises. Which I find to be exactly backwards. It would be, if that's what it were about. But I can say

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: Redefining the chapters who participated in a joint fundraiser with WMF as WMF's payment processors is straight-up insulting. Whoa, please slow down! No one has said anything like that, and it isn't how the term is

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:22 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't care what people spoke of, nor of what they desire, nor what their agenda is. I never supposed that people were conspiring to fail. I care what effect

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think chapters are being cut off I think they are being centralized. Centralization, not lack of funding, is what I believe will make

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 8, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:39 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: Decentralization isn't some random choice that somehow was attached to this movement; it is the only way the program functions at all. WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: Nor does off-wiki collaboration require that a formal entity be in existence. Off-wiki activities -- whether social meetups or more formal outreach efforts to GLAM institutions and elsewhere -- are no less effective

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.loks...@gmail.com wrote: Writing about ethical concerns while at same time being blind to anything that does not maximize donations is laughable. The obvious solution to the stated concern that is being raised is returning to the split

[Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-08 Thread Birgitte_sb
I have realized that WMF seems to seriously misunderstand the role of chapters. I say this as someone who has always had a somewhat conservative view of chapters to begin with. But underneath the current rift is a serious disconnect between WMF professionals and how this whole program actually

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-06 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 6, 2011, at 2:41 AM, Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu wrote: Hello Birgitte, Thank you for these comments and edits/suggestions. [all: please also post suggestions on Meta. most people are not subscribed to this list.] This Board letter was published on short notice.

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-06 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Hello MZM, thanks for taking a start at new pages to illustrate the discussion on Meta. MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com writes: . Anyone who thinks that this particular issue is outside of this list's scope is insane.

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:45 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: . People bring up the forum because this (foundation-l) is the central list for the Wikimedia Foundation. Anyone who thinks that this particular issue is outside of this list's scope is insane. Using internal-l as a

[Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
Sorry if this a duplicate but I didn't receive it even though my later email came through Begin forwarded message: From: birgitte...@yahoo.com Date: August 5, 2011 7:07:02 PM CDT To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Board

Re: [Foundation-l] Board letter about fundraising and chapters

2011-08-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 5, 2011, at 3:32 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: ==Design principles==* Our design principles for improving the fundraising model are: * We are deeply committed to decentralized pursuit of our mission and to supporting the long-term sustainability of chapters

Re: [Foundation-l] Privacy concerns

2011-07-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
Do they have notaries in the Netherlands? Why not simply ask them to mail a notarized statement that I am Foo at such an address and request an ublock so I may edit as Bar? I still am not sure if this is something I would completely endorse, but at least it would be meaningful and not so

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/9 birgitte...@yahoo.com Snip Having a corpus with some depth on Wikisource will open up a much different reading experience than an index of PDFs, even though the words all match. Just look at what is

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-07-08 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jul 7, 2011, at 2:50 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/7 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de On de.wikisource.org they scan every page of the original text, upload the scan on Commons and show the scan on the right part of every page as an image. It is even obligatory

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Mike Godwin mnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Snow writes: And for people who were worrying about the implications, I think setting things up in stages is just as likely to make it look worse as to make it look better. I think Michael's point here

Re: [Foundation-l] Seat and Donations (SPLIT from: EFF Bitcoins)

2011-06-24 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:58 AM, Kat Walsh wrote: It also wasn't an easy decision to make. The question came down to this one: do we necessarily refuse someone as a candidate solely because they were proposed by a funder? As a

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
Yes I eventually found that app. And it is much superior to editing from the browser. But it doesn't support ProofreadPage extension. Still between the app and browser it is definitely workable with two edits. My concern is much more that the reading/navigation experience seems to be driving

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
You are third person to respond as if my email was about me personally looking for help editing. And the second to snip my writing out of all context. Steven seemed to actually get what my concern was. You can hate whatever you like, or dislike as the case may be. It is not going to help WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Birgitte_sb
I forgot to say there are not website bugs, so much as browser bugs. Or just an extremely different interface. Perhaps a great mobile browser could be built to effectively kill apps. But is not something website changes could address. IMHO BirgitteSB Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2011, at

[Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
I am getting ready do to a little traveling. It works out that traveling light is going to be my best bet for various reasons. As I don't want to carry around the weight of a laptop; I have purchased a little closer to the cutting edge than I generally do. In setting up my iPad this is what

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-09 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:23 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: Why couldn't you edit it with the normal web browser in the ipad? ___ I could edit from a browser, but it was rather difficult. That difficulty wasn't really important, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Principle and pragmatism with nudity and sexual content

2009-04-21 Thread birgitte_sb
--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Principle and pragmatism with nudity and sexual content To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 6:26 PM