on 3/14/12 1:54 PM, Kim Bruning at k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote:
The CBC is getting rid of its physical music collections in Vancouver and
other sites across the country, a treasure
trove of over 100,000 artifacts amassed over decades. Valuable, rare and
historic recordings on vinyl and tape
the phrase bible belt with
anti-Americanism?
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content?
All knowledge - or none.
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I will be intelligent enough to know that little can be known; inquisitive
enough never to stop learning, and perceptive enough to understand that all
things and all events contain infinite possibilities. - MR
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:51:13 -0500, Marc Riddell
michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
It's really unfortunate that blacking out Wikimedia projects is
becoming
an
accepted method of protest. Maybe we should start keeping track of how
often different projects are blacked out, and for what
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-
key-senators-change-course.html?_r=1nl=afternoonupdateemc=aua2
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On 18 January 2012 23:08, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/19/technology/web-protests-piracy-bill-and-2-
key-senators-change-course.html?_r=1nl=afternoonupdateemc=aua2
on 1/18/12 6:16 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Call me
is important:
Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear,
intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance,
nothing is born.
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our decisions to you makes a farce (or worse) of any
claim of such collaboration. And the more silent they remain about the
reasoning behind their decisions, the louder the suspicions become about
that silence - and the motives behind it.
Marc Riddell
on 6/25/11 2:18 PM, Milos Rancic at mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/25/2011 07:35 PM, birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
To clarify my position, I found the procedure as designed for handling
appointed seats to be inherently unworkable. I don't think the procedures
could have been followed during my
Hi. I realize this has nothing directly to do with the WP Project, but
here's an article I thought many of you might find interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/health/07learn.html?emc=tnttntemail0=y
Enjoy.
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understand what you wrote :-).
Be healthy,
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I posted this on the English WP on April 11:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2011-April/108899.html
The responses I received suggested it might be a problem with my provider. I
spoke with a Comcast tech. She considered the problem and concluded that I
needed to clear my cache
of it.
Marc Riddell, Ph.D.
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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 18:20, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Going along with this
theory that we've brought in a majority of the people who are willing to
work on these free projects already, perhaps the focus should shift to
making their lives easier? And maybe from there, the pool
It's the oldest temptation. Not gold or the power it can buy, not love, not
even the deep, drumming fires of lust: What we coveted first was knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Lee_Carrell
Haunt Me Still
Chapter 1
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with another
person in a civil manner should be a requirement for everyone working on the
Project. It then becomes the hallmark, the distinguishing feature of a
Wikipedian.
Marc Riddell
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
Here are some more details to flesh
!
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:34:48 -0500
To: Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Nine Reasons Women Don't Edit Wikipedia
On 20 February 2011 14:24, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
Sue, as you know
All,
Familiar points to ponder.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/us/politics/21civility.html?nl=todaysheadl
inesemc=tha23
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Familiar points to ponder.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/us/politics/21civility.html?nl=todaysheadl
inesemc=tha23
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not to suggest that anyone is a troll, except for Domas (he likes
it).
Yes. Often a person with a need to control a conversation or discussion will
resort to that name-calling tactic. They don't like the POV the messenger is
bringing so they try to discredit them.
Marc Riddell
have been trying to call attention to this problem
of a dysfunctional culture in the Project for 4 years now. However, the
initiative for change, and the know-how to create it, doesn't appear to
exist at the highest levels of the Project. Pity.
To Samuel: And, so do I.
Marc Riddell
Welcome to you, Goeff. Your academic and work credentials and experience are
impressive. Congratulations. I especially like your background as a busker.
And your bringing your music to work. You should be a healthy addition to
the Wikimedia staff.
Marc Riddell
on 2/5/11 3:11 PM, Theo10011
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 15:34, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote:
the Wikimedia movement is like a big family. Even though we sometimes
quarry with each other but especially in time like this we are all with
you. In the last days I often think back of the hospitality from all of
you to so
on 1/26/11 7:09 PM, SlimVirgin at slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
A few editors on the English Wikipedia have been noticing a problem since
around January 15 of connection timed out messages, very slow performance,
and being logged out.
Preview is getting hard to use because so slow, or failing
On 19/12/2010 23:07, Fred Bauder wrote:
There can be no viable alternative to Wikipedia.
This is the type of thinking that sets you up to being blindsided.
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an environment like this don't
know the first thing about working constructively with other people. And
that's the way it will be until it can't afford to be that way anymore.
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on 11/24/10 6:10 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
Would this project answer the question I am trying to address today?
Which American actors died in 1970?
There does not appear to me, to be any obvious way of using the built-in
search engine to answer this question.
on 11/24/10 6:33 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/24/2010 3:29:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
michaeldavi...@comcast.net writes:
Could it de done with a Category: 1970 Deaths - Actors, or some such
thing?
Marc
Evidently the phrase Category:
on 11/24/10 6:59 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/24/2010 3:56:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
phn...@blueyonder.co.uk writes:
Try http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php
plug in values en, Deaths in 1970 and American Actors.
on 11/24/10 7:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com at wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/24/2010 4:11:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
michaeldavi...@comcast.net writes:
I just pulled up the Articles on two actors who I know died in 1970. One
was
in the Category English Film Actors and the
guarantee that each page load contains the accurate
information then one shouldn't be pretending that it is in any way
authoritative.
Very well put. I agree with you completely.
Marc Riddell, Ph.D.
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on 10/22/10 8:49 AM, Gerard Meijssen at gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
People who appreciate an upgrade from totally useless... obviously...
Thanks,
GerardM
To what use are you talking about, Gerard; groupthink-l?
Marc Riddell
On 22 October 2010 14:27, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org
on 10/22/10 10:11 AM, Fred Bauder at fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
This is a public list for discussion of matters which concern and affect
the Wikimedia Foundation. It is open to supporters and critics of our
projects; to novices and old hands.
I am listening, and do hear what you are
ironically, create the substance of the
thing that makes the first three possible. This setup sounds achingly
familiar. And, like all similar setups throughout history, is set up to
fail.
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be able to
openly discuss all of the laundry that belongs to it - both clean and dirty.
This way, we may not always like what we hear, but we can always trust that
we are hearing it all.
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that Wikimedians
are sensitive to unfavorable comparisons would have been sufficient.
Excellent observation, Nathan. Moderation (which is merely the denial term
for censorship) in an open discussion forum such as this should be extremely
rare. Wisdom, not power, is called for here.
Marc Riddell
of collaboration. The facts of
something can have very different appearances depending on the angle of
sight - what's most important is the dialogue those different angles
produce. It's also wise to know that there are things you are never going to
know.
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that reading books or papers about the
subject is unnecessary. I'm sure the biology experts would give up too
if their area of expertise were undermined in such a basic way.
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net
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Very well said, SV. I encounter the same thing
something they
think they already know.
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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] How bureaucracy works: the example
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TO them about what they
are to do.
The current talking TO them is not polite and will not lead to positive
results.
Yes! Talk WITH not TO. That's what collaboration is all about.
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insight, David.
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted
awards.
Person-to-person affirmation goes a very long way; and is what collaboration
community should be based upon. Give them the climate, and they will give
you the culture.
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to broaden the base of our
volunteers.
Sydney Poore
(FloNight)
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Marc Riddell
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on 6/19/10 4:58 PM, Keegan Peterzell at keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
snip.
There was a great TED speech that I need to look up but don't have
on 6/17/10 9:47 AM, Nathan at nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, this thread just needs to end.
Nathan
Interesting, Nathan. Needs to end for whom?
Would you say the same thing if this were a live in-person discussion?
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Marc Riddell writes:
Mike, please stop and listen. The Community, which is the heart and soul of
this very Project, is ventilating, and making some extremely important
points. Please stop trying to control, and re-direct, this dialogue in a
more Foundation-comfortable direction. Listen
, Tim.
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try again.
Marc Riddell
On Nov 26, 2009 8:56 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
I already pointed out that you cannot impose friendliness. Our current
state is one in which any particular admin may sit on any particular editor
with or without adequate cause and that editor has nearly no power
regarding said usage
on the basis of a single culture's sensibilities on children and
sexuality, especially sensibilities as baseless and harmful as this one.
--
Andrew Garrett
Yes. Very well said, Andrew.
Marc Riddell, Ph.D.
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, it is not anti-wikipedia to recognize and understand the difference
between information and knowledge.
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2009/10/10 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
Geni, it is not anti-wikipedia to recognize and understand the difference
between information and knowledge.
on 10/10/09 11:36 AM, geni at geni...@gmail.com wrote:
That enitrely depends on context. In the context of the sentence
2009/10/10 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
I'm sorry; I can understand those sentences separately, but not when
they are combined. Wikipedia is a way to take knowledge (and the
spread of knowledge) seriously. That's why I'm here.
I would hope that being anti-wikipedia (or anti-knowledge)
wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
The entire page is founded on unsubstantiated and generic complaints
which all lists share. I'm on moderated lists which are completely horrible.
And I'm on unmoderated lists which are absolutely excellent.
Jimmy Wales himself has stated, and I've quoted him in one
on 9/21/09 7:00 PM, Philippe Beaudette at pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Just to follow up - I just sent a test submit, and it acted correctly,
and sent me to application submission successful.
Philippe,
Did you receive my application successfully?
Marc Riddell
. Churchill when he said,
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.
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Thomas,
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
I have just received an email telling me I am eligible to vote in the
board elections when I have already voted. Please don't send
untargetted mass emails - they are spam.
on 8/9/09 5:15 PM, phoebe ayers
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Milos Rancicmill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Marc Riddellmichaeldavi...@comcast.net
wrote:
And it is this control group, this consolidation of power which was
described earlier in this discussion, that is keeping the Project from
, Brian. I, too, am concerned
about the consolidation of power; because it is power groups such as this
that set the values, direction, and very tone of a project community's
culture.
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, Birgitte. Both of these messages sound like
threats.
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family.
-Chad
This is, indeed, very sad news. I can still see in my mind's eye his very
moving announcement of the death of President Kennedy. His values were
unshakeable. He leaves quite a legacy.
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, but
it applies very much in the various Mailing Lists Talk Pages. Take a good
look.
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in size, but not in
depth.
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
I concur with Phil. That thing is more press stunt than it is a conclusive
scientific study. The key thing that makes me discount it is, just like in
a
survey
being?
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Civility, like courtesy, is contagious - it begins with you.
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, that all volunteers do not know better.
Just a sane thought to ponder.
Thank you, Jon. You are a part of the thinking and the culture that is going
to help this Project survive.
Be healthy,
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2009/2/8 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
on 2/8/09 2:41 PM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I've proposed something that may help in this matter on en:wp:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboar
d#
How_to_raise_the_tone_of_the_wiki
on 2/5/09 6:27 PM, Marc Riddell at michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
A lot of good input so far regarding the state of communication in the
wikis. I would like to take some time and construct a dialogue model for
discussing this issue further. I feel this would be better - more productive
, speaks volumes.
Marc Riddell
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:34:14 -0700
To: Wikinews mailing list wikinew...@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikinews-l] Increased incivility
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net
wrote:
When will you people finally acknowledge that there is something terribly
wrong with the deteriorating level of discourse occurring in the Projects?
And this trend is certainly not confined to Wikinews. Take
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Marc Riddell
michaeldavi...@comcast.net wrote:
I have been trying for over two years to bring this issue to the serious
attention of the powers that be in the English Wikipedia. My messages are
met either with a there he goes again attitude
Marc Riddell wrote:
It is clear that the Wikinews Project HAS come up with a successful model.
The question is: are the other Projects even listening?
Michael Snow wrote:
What are you suggesting is the successful model Wikinews has come up
with? I thought you were citing Wikinews
unfriendly and more inconsequential with
every passing day. It is no wonder more and more persons are avoiding it
like The Plague. The universes-of-one are sealing its fate.
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the community in the abstract, but don't
appear to want to put in the effort to actually work directly with the
people in said community.
2009/1/10 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
David, if you mean the endless, circular, defensive battles that go on in
the Talk Pages of the English
to improve
in that regard.
on 1/8/09 4:30 AM, Ray Saintonge at sainto...@telus.net wrote:
Calling it a 23-people organization suggests a growing chasm between
the volunteers and the hired hands.
And that chasm is growing wider in more ways than just numbers, Ray.
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of what they are there to do. And, without the
heart, it cannot live.
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Marc Riddell writes:
The Foundation - and those who represent it - seem to have forgotten
that
people are at the heart of what they are there to do. And, without the
heart, it cannot live.
on 1/8/09 4:22 PM, Mike Godwin at mgod...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is really an insupportable
A linguistic analysis by several experts in the
field concluded that you don't have a clue about effective group management.
on 1/8/09 8:41 PM, Thomas Dalton at thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
WMF
doesn't manage its volunteer base, it keeps its hands off and lets the
community sort itself
on 1/8/09 9:20 PM, Erik Moeller at e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2009/1/8 Marc Riddell michaeldavi...@comcast.net:
This is pure unsubstantiated rhetoric. There are real-life, real-time
problems - serious problems - that directly involve the people occurring in
the English Wikipedia for example
struggling to think of anything that could be done on a
foundation level that would be effective here.
Alex, your hostile attitude in both your responses prove my second point.
You, and attitudes like this, are a part of the problem.
Marc Riddell
Each one if you.
Have a healthy New Year.
Carpe diem,
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much
of a welcome in the Project. I know, I'm one of them. My professional :-)
guess is that it is fear by the larger Community that they will somehow take
over. This is unfortunate thinking. And I believe it is having a negative
effect on the overall depth and quality of the encyclopedia.
Marc
on 12/6/08 4:04 PM, Thomas Dalton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Discussions please. (Not denial that this problem is a problem, thanks.)
If you want to encourage discussion, don't start by restricting the
discussion to only people that agree with you. You won't get any
useful results that
with you. You won't get any
useful results that way.
Are you speaking hypothetically, or don't you think this is a problem?
What I hear in what he is saying is that your pathological need to control
is surfacing again.
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