Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-23 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/22/2009 10:48:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, smole...@eunet.rs writes: Digitize them and publish them on the Internet, but insure them, so that if heirs ever appear a reasonable royalty may be paid to them. Heirs do not necessarily get any benefit from copyrighted

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2009/11/22 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net: Tomasz Ganicz wrote: The idea is to create a Staging Area - a wiki (or non-wiki) project which is not public and can be used for media and meta-data mass storage before sending the stuff to public projects. The idea is that all permissions and

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Judson Dunn
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Very simply. If an organisation is going to make a project it will get their own space on Staging Area and will upload their stuff there without any legal problems. Then, one or more editors must examine this stuff

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org: And in defense of the bureaucratic morons, you might be surprised the number of super positive generous people that want their work on Wikipedia that are completely unwilling to allow 3rd parties to use their work. I don't personally make people

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 3:05:02 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy 2009/11/22 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net: Tomasz Ganicz wrote: The idea is to create a Staging Area - a wiki (or non

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com: I see a lot of well meaning people responding here, but maybe its time to go back to the basics. No non free pictures, period. No more bureaucracy plus cost savings on not having to run the permissions systems. I submit that you aren't

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On 11/22/2009 05:57 PM, David Gerard wrote: 2009/11/22 Judson Dunn cohes...@sleepyhead.org: And in defense of the bureaucratic morons, you might be surprised the number of super positive generous people that want their work on Wikipedia that are completely unwilling to allow 3rd parties to

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: Keep in mind that this is not about non-free content, this is not about a possibility that professor didn't understand all consequences of his approval; this is just about The Form. The Bureaucracy. Note, also, that this cooperation exists for four

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Ray Saintonge
Geoffrey Plourde wrote: I see a lot of well meaning people responding here, but maybe its time to go back to the basics. No non free pictures, period. No more bureaucracy plus cost savings on not having to run the permissions systems. This is simplistic. No-one seriously here is opposed

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Ray Saintonge
Milos Rancic wrote: But, during the couple of previous days I've got one more contribution to our Monument. This kind of contributions make me to think that Wikipedia in English (not just en.wp for sure) is becoming -- slowly but surely -- the main problem in spreading free knowledge. ...

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2009/11/22 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: For some applications (though not necessarily all), it might help if the OTRS process was replaced by a standard online permission form rather than having Wikimedians negotiate with outsiders in the hope of getting them to say magic words. I might

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-22 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: snip So, the replacing current ugly-copyvio-template - OTRS scheme for something else must take into consideration various scenarios which are currently handled by that scheme in quite often teribbly unfriendly style

[Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-21 Thread Milos Rancic
A year or so ago I realized that it is better to make an auxiliary site to Wikipedia [in Serbian] than to spend a lot of time in explaining to students that everyone has to send to me the sentence I agree that all of my work is realized under It may be funny for the first couple of times, it

Re: [Foundation-l] Building The Great Monument of Bureaucracy

2009-11-21 Thread Ray Saintonge
Tomasz Ganicz wrote: The idea is to create a Staging Area - a wiki (or non-wiki) project which is not public and can be used for media and meta-data mass storage before sending the stuff to public projects. The idea is that all permissions and other legal stuff would be carefully solved