Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Jy V
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Leif Ekblad wrote: > A switch to UTF-8 only affects a > small amount of the code-base, and doesn't break string references. > I do agree with your point of view, I also see that major Pascal/Delphi frameworks have chosen UTF-8 for string such as XMLRAD and mORMo

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 24 December 2012 17:45:34 Henry Vermaak wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:19:58PM +0100, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > BTW, I actually think about to fork Free Pascal. Not in the near future > > but the primary goals are defined already: > > > > - Back to the roots. > > What are the roots

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Henry Vermaak
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:19:58PM +0100, Martin Schreiber wrote: > BTW, I actually think about to fork Free Pascal. Not in the near future but > the primary goals are defined already: > > - Back to the roots. What are the roots? > - Add the necessary to build the most productive universal prog

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 21 December 2012 18:16:06 Florian Klämpfl wrote: > > If nobody is interested in features you need, bad luck for you, you have > three possibilities: develop them yourself, pay somebody to develop them > or use another compiler. BTW, I actually think about to fork Free Pascal. Not in the

Re: Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Martin
On 24/12/2012 13:05, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Martin said: Hm that makes it easy to have an incomplete list, that could later become a problem half-width spaces etc..., control chars (RTL/LTR...), currently unused codepoints (that could become anything in future...) S

Re: [fpc-devel] registry changes

2012-12-24 Thread Yury Sidorov
Hi, OK. I'll add needed defines to registry unit for Windows using this method: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE= windows.HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE Yury Sidorov, j...@cp-lab.com - Original Message - From: Martin To: FPC developers' list Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 1:13 PM Subject: [fpc-devel]

Re: [fpc-devel] mips-linux and mipsel-linux snapshots available

2012-12-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Nikolai Zhubr wrote: Hi Sergei and Mark, 16.12.2012 12:41, Sergei Gorelkin: [...] This was caused by insufficient alignment of Double-typed temp variables, fixed in r23146. Moreover, it appeared that function UnixToWinAge wasn't doing anything useful since year 2005, so it was removed in r23145,

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Hans-Peter Diettrich said: > >> and component libraries to the new strings, RTL and LCL? IMO a typical > >> loose-loose situation :-( > > > > ? No, the old RTL will remain maintained. It's the same codebase, just > > recompiled. > > Sorry, I doubt that it is so easy :-(

Re: Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 24/12/12 11:22, Martin wrote: > > half-width spaces etc..., control chars (RTL/LTR...), currently unused > codepoints (that could become anything in future...) As Marco said, the list will be smaller than the "allowed list". Also the Unicode specification defines blocks or categories for cod

Re: Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Martin said: > > Hm that makes it easy to have an incomplete list, that could later > become a problem > > half-width spaces etc..., control chars (RTL/LTR...), currently unused > codepoints (that could become anything in future...) Still shorter than what is allowed.

Re: Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Martin
On 24/12/2012 12:17, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: too. So if somebody implements non ASCII identifiers because he needs a second source Delphi compiler it will be merged because the addition does not break existing code. I assume utf-8 identifiers wo

Re: Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: > > too. So if somebody implements non ASCII identifiers because he needs a > > second source Delphi compiler it will be merged because the addition does > > not > > break existing code. I assume utf-8 identifiers would not be very difficult > >

[fpc-devel] registry changes

2012-12-24 Thread Martin
Writing this from my laptop I do not currently have all the various checkouts to look at the exact changes myself. But enquiring based on the reports I have read. http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=23523 From FPC trunk r23202 log: * Include regdef.inc only if XMLREG is defined (non-Wi

Non-ASCII identifiers (was: Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status)

2012-12-24 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Martin Schreiber wrote: On Monday 24 December 2012 10:23:00 Sven Barth wrote: As I already wrote there are currently no plans to change that FPC supports only ASCII identifiers. I don't think we can trust on that. I hoped that FPC will not use cpstrnew too. So if somebody implements non ASC

Re: [fpc-devel] INCLUDESTRINGFILE patch.

2012-12-24 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012, Den wrote: Hi all,     I must say, it is actually quite fun to be a part of the FPC Developers mailing list, I don't know why I didn't join sooner.  Quite interesting conversations and ideas, a little bit of bickering but very understanding people in general, I like it.

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 24 December 2012 10:23:00 Sven Barth wrote: > Am 24.12.2012 07:48 schrieb "Martin Schreiber" : > > On Sunday 23 December 2012 17:44:53 Marco van de Voort wrote: > > > In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: > > > > > Do you know how RTTI will be encoded? > > > > > > > > I would

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Jeppe Græsdal Johansen
Den 24-12-2012 07:53, Martin Schreiber skrev: On Sunday 23 December 2012 17:44:53 Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: Do you know how RTTI will be encoded? I would guess short/ansistrings, since pascal identifiers must be a subset of ASCII anyway. Not

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-24 Thread Sven Barth
Am 24.12.2012 07:48 schrieb "Martin Schreiber" : > > On Sunday 23 December 2012 17:44:53 Marco van de Voort wrote: > > In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: > > > > Do you know how RTTI will be encoded? > > > > > > I would guess short/ansistrings, since pascal identifiers must be a > >