On 6-2-2013 12:13, Henry Vermaak wrote:
What I'm trying to say with this (admittedly contrived) example is
that when you are forced to read the docs to find out which functions
you can use for converting numbers to strings, you'll probably
discover functions like Format. At least in my case, th
06.02.13, 21:51, Alexander Klenin пишет:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
point.x := x;
point.y := y;
s := point.ToString;
or
s := (x,y).ToString;
Has there not recently been a discussion on Tupels ?!?!?! :-)
At least according to my proposal, tuples wil
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
>> point.x := x;
>> point.y := y;
>> s := point.ToString;
>>
> or
> s := (x,y).ToString;
>
> Has there not recently been a discussion on Tupels ?!?!?! :-)
>
At least according to my proposal, tuples will not be a type,
so you'll have
Ludo Brands wrote:
Funny to see that all these fans of a strongly typed pascal prefer
Format() that is using variants, has an undetermined number of
parameters, doesn't give the compiler any opportunity to check the types
used and causes runtime errors when a wrong type or a wrong number of
para
Am 06.02.2013 12:54, schrieb Paul Ishenin:
06.02.13, 19:29, Michael Schnell пишет:
but I feel
point.x := x;
point.y := y;
s := point.ToString;
is most clear.
This is what you can already do in FPC 2.6.0 with advanced records
feature active.
Or by using record helpers if one can
Am 06.02.2013 14:03, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:12:59PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 06.02.2013 12:13, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
Thanks for pointing out the advantages. I can see the point, but can't
help to think that I'll be reading code like this soon:
s := '(' + x.ToStr
Am 06.02.2013 14:26, schrieb Ludo Brands:
On 02/06/2013 01:12 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 06.02.2013 12:13, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
Thanks for pointing out the advantages. I can see the point, but can't
help to think that I'll be reading code like this soon:
s := '(' + x.ToString + ', ' + y.ToStr
On 02/06/2013 01:12 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
> Am 06.02.2013 12:13, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
>> Thanks for pointing out the advantages. I can see the point, but can't
>> help to think that I'll be reading code like this soon:
>>
>> s := '(' + x.ToString + ', ' + y.ToString + ')';
>>
>> Instead of
>>
>
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:12:59PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
> Am 06.02.2013 12:13, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
> >Thanks for pointing out the advantages. I can see the point, but can't
> >help to think that I'll be reading code like this soon:
> >
> >s := '(' + x.ToString + ', ' + y.ToString + ')';
> >
Am 06.02.2013 12:13, schrieb Henry Vermaak:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
If we're
Am 06.02.2013 11:29, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt:
We'll have to make some units with 'standard' helpers.
I agree.
I assume Delphi XE3 has such a unit, we can use that for inspiration.
The problem is that Delphi stuffs all helpers into the main units...
e.g. TStringHelper and TDateTimeHelper
Am 06.02.2013 10:58, schrieb Mattias Gaertner:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:49:36 +0100
Sven Barth wrote:
[...] Hello Free Pascal community!
=== example begin ===
var
i: LongInt;
begin
Writeln(i.ToString);
end.
And how is toString declared?
I've mentioned it directly above the example in
06.02.13, 19:29, Michael Schnell пишет:
but I feel
point.x := x;
point.y := y;
s := point.ToString;
is most clear.
This is what you can already do in FPC 2.6.0 with advanced records
feature active.
Best regards,
Paul Ishenin
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On 02/06/2013 12:29 PM, Michael Schnell wrote:
point.x := x;
point.y := y;
s := point.ToString;
or
s := (x,y).ToString;
Has there not recently been a discussion on Tupels ?!?!?! :-)
-Michael
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On 02/06/2013 12:26 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
One can wonder whether
s:='(%d, %d)'.format([x, y]);
is more or less clear than
s := Format('(%d, %d)', [x, y]);
but I feel
point.x := x;
point.y := y;
s := point.ToString;
is most clear.
-Michael
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Henry Vermaak wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
If we're
On 02/06/2013 12:13 PM, Henry Vermaak wrote:
I can see the point, but can't
help to think that I'll be reading code like this soon:
s := '(' + x.ToString + ', ' + y.ToString + ')';
Instead of
s := Format('(%d, %d)', [x, y]);
In fact to me the first expression does look really nice (even thou
2013/2/6 Michael Van Canneyt
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> Anyway, I just wanted to point out which advantages I see (or do not see)
> in type helpers.
>
> By themselves, I think they are worthless.
>
>
If used appropriately, they can improve the readability.
R#
> Mic
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
>
> >In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> >>>Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
> >>
> >>If we're talking newbies and IDE:
> >>
Michael Van Canneyt hat am 6. Februar 2013 um 11:38
geschrieben:
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
>
> > In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> >> With helpers you can do
> >> i.
> >> and get a list of methods, for example ToString;
> >>
> >> Which, for newbies, is
Marco van de Voort hat am 6. Februar 2013 um 11:41
geschrieben:
> In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> > > Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
> >
> > If we're talking newbies and IDE:
> >
> > They don't need to, if the IDE puts the unit in the
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
If we're talking newbies and IDE:
They don't need to, if the IDE puts the unit in the uses clause to start with...
Tha
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> > Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing what is which unit either :-)
>
> If we're talking newbies and IDE:
>
> They don't need to, if the IDE puts the unit in the uses clause to start
> with...
That's completely new functionality. Afaik
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
With helpers you can do
i.
and get a list of methods, for example ToString;
Which, for newbies, is easier than guessing IntToStr()
We'll have to make some units with 'standard' helpers.
W
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said:
> With helpers you can do
>i.
> and get a list of methods, for example ToString;
>
> Which, for newbies, is easier than guessing IntToStr()
> We'll have to make some units with 'standard' helpers.
Well, newbies are not to strong in knowing w
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 06.02.2013 11:03, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Sven Barth wrote:
Hello Free Pascal community!
I'm pleased to announce the addition of type helpers which extend the
existing helper concept with the ability to extend primitive t
Am 06.02.2013 11:03, schrieb Michael Van Canneyt:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Sven Barth wrote:
Hello Free Pascal community!
I'm pleased to announce the addition of type helpers which extend the
existing helper concept with the ability to extend primitive types.
Haha, finally after 7 years of wai
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Sven Barth wrote:
Hello Free Pascal community!
I'm pleased to announce the addition of type helpers which extend the
existing helper concept with the ability to extend primitive types.
Haha, finally after 7 years of waiting we catch up with Morfik...
Thank you very muc
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:49:36 +0100
Sven Barth wrote:
[...] Hello Free Pascal community!
=== example begin ===
var
i: LongInt;
begin
Writeln(i.ToString);
end.
And how is toString declared?
Something like
type
TLongIntHelper = type
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:49:36 +0100
Sven Barth wrote:
>[...] Hello Free Pascal community!
> === example begin ===
>
> var
>i: LongInt;
> begin
> Writeln(i.ToString);
> end.
And how is toString declared?
Mattias
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