On 24 Sep 2012, at 16:16, Cephas Atheos wrote:
> [My apologies for the previous message attempt - obviously the list server
> doesn't handle html at all, and I could have checked for that first. Sorry
> for the block of base64!]
The problem is that both in your previous and in your current messa
Am 25.09.2012 00:15, schrieb Jonas Maebe:
Again, that's one proper list address and two invalid ones. Additionally,
fpc-announce is a list on which pretty much only announces about new FPC
releases are distributed. Finally, you are not subscribed to any FPC list using
the address uncleb...@gma
Op Tue, 25 Sep 2012, schreef Cephas Atheos:
[My apologies for the previous message attempt - obviously the list server
doesn't handle html at all, and I could have checked for that first. Sorry
for the block of base64!]
G'day everyone,
As you may be aware, there are a number of significant p
On 25/09/12 8:15 AM, "Jonas Maebe" wrote:
>
>The problem is that both in your previous and in your current message,
>you are sending the mail to one correct list address and to two invalid
>ones.
Thanks for clarifying that, Jonas. That would explain why I got 2
administrative replies telling me a
I'm seeing some traffic on fpc-devel and the other legitimate lists, and I
did get a success message when I reposted my original message, so some
things are getting through. I think you're right though, I need to change
my response address.
I forgot the banal horrors of mailing lists and reply-to
Am 25.09.2012 09:33, schrieb Cephas Atheos:
I'm seeing some traffic on fpc-devel and the other legitimate lists, and I
did get a success message when I reposted my original message, so some
things are getting through. I think you're right though, I need to change
my response address.
I forgot th
Am 25.09.2012 02:39, schrieb Cephas Atheos:
On a related noteŠ The website looks really quiet, with maybe 3 or 4
requests per month. Is there a link between the site and the formal
mailing lists? Or does the website work off its own set of lists? I
noticed while looking through these list archive
G'day Daniël,
On 25/09/12 5:35 PM, "Daniël Mantione"
wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I'm fully aware of limitations, and happy to take take help, but please
>understand I am skeptical to plans like "let's install PhpBB" and those
>are not fundamental plans.
I agree, change for changes' sake is just frustrating t
On 2012-09-25 09:01, Cephas Atheos wrote:
I mentioned PHPBB because it's incredibly robust, widely used, has good
security, is minimally invasive to manage, can be scaled reasonably well,
people are familiar with it, and it works.
My personal opinion is that I hate web forums! They are hard to
On 09/25/2012 10:29 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
NNTP is still the most used public discussion medium on the internet,
and for good reason - it works very well.
+1
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I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here in the US, more and more ISPs
are eliminating Usenet access completely. Do you mean an NNTP server for
FPC that people could access directly using a client like Agent or Pan?
(In other words, without being part of the newsfeed.)
I've used Usenet off a
On 09/25/2012 09:14 PM, Jeff Duntemann wrote:
I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here in the US, more and more
ISPs are eliminating Usenet access completely.
Same in Germany.
Deutsche Telekom silently did that about a year ago.
AFAIK, there is a number of rather cheap payed services for tha
On 2012-09-25 20:14, Jeff Duntemann wrote:
I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here in the US, more and more ISPs
are eliminating Usenet access completely. Do you mean an NNTP server for
Yes, Usenet is not the only NNTP servers & newsgroups on the internet.
For example, I host a couple of ne
Am 26.09.2012 14:36, schrieb Kostas Michalopoulos:
Then is community - FreePascal's current forums are awful and because
of that, dead. I'd suggest to archive them and install a modern board
that follows all the conventions that people have learned from the
hundreds of thousands of other forums o
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
> > If possible the FreePascal forums should be merged with the Lazarus
> > forums (but **NOT** in the current dreadful Lazarus site!) since,
> > honestly, a lot of people look for FreePascal via Lazarus. While
> > they're technically different projects, fr
On 2012-09-26 14:10, Marco van de Voort wrote:
I asked Lazarus devels about that a fat year ago. (at the lazarus day),
and IIRC Marc wanted to update the forum software (version) first.
Why not do the best of both worlds. Setup a NNTP server, then use fpWeb
(or even plain CGI will do) to crea
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
> > I asked Lazarus devels about that a fat year ago. (at the lazarus day),
> > and IIRC Marc wanted to update the forum software (version) first.
>
> Why not do the best of both worlds.
In whose opinion?
> Setup a NNTP server, then use fpWeb (or
On 2012-09-26 14:33, Marco van de Voort wrote:
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
Why not do the best of both worlds.
In whose opinion?
I thought it would have been obvious.
I'm not ready yet to declare FPC/Lazarus as an oldtimers only fad.
I'm afraid I don't understand y
On 26/09/12 10:58 PM, "Sven Barth" wrote:
>Regarding mailing lists: If I know that certain content was sent since
>I'm registered I'll use my mailing client's search otherwise I do a
>"searchterm site:freepascal.org" in Google. ;)
Ah, yes, see that's exactly what I'm hoping to stop ever happenin
On 27/09/12 12:26 AM, "Cephas Atheos" wrote:
>I think that Greg must have had an horrific experience with a forum at
>some time, I hope it hasn't scarred you for life, mate! ;)
Aaaargh I meant "Graeme", not "Greg", my apologies, Graeme.
Sheesh. I can't even get a name right
-Pete
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Cephas Atheos wrote:
A time-and-motion guy a few years ago (when I worked in HP) told us that
for every extra click our customers had to do to get what they wanted on a
website, we lost half of those customers. Four clicks is three clicks too
many!
Out of curiosity, was this before or after "r
Am 26.09.2012 16:42, schrieb Vincent Snijders:
2012/9/26 Cephas Atheos :
What
would _you_ want to be able to do in one click (or less)?
Go to http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/
This (although I'm mostly using URL completion for it...) and the following:
* http://wiki.freepascal.or
G'day Mark!
On 27/09/12 12:40 AM, "Mark Morgan Lloyd"
wrote:
>Out of curiosity, was this before or after "real HP" got spun off as
>Agilent, and what part of the company were you in? (I'm just interested
>to know if your background is computers, chromatography, or electron
>tubes, if you get my
Am 26.09.2012 16:26, schrieb Cephas Atheos:
Kostas and Doug, I agree that even a few little things (like the, er,
"distracting" running pussycat thing) can make a huge difference.
It's a Cheetah and the official FPC mascot. So don't say anything wrong
about it ;P
Regards,
Sven
_
It should run only as an easter egg when you move the mouse over it,
not all the time :-P
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
> Am 26.09.2012 16:26, schrieb Cephas Atheos:
>
>> Kostas and Doug, I agree that even a few little things (like the, er,
>> "distracting" running pussycat t
On 2012-09-26 16:18, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:
It should run only as an easter egg when you move the mouse over it,
not all the time :-P
I feel like I went back in time to the early 90's every time I see that.
Those animations were the "in thing" then. :)
Regards,
- Graeme -
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On 27/09/12 12:42 AM, "Vincent Snijders"
wrote:
>2012/9/26 Cephas Atheos :
>> What
>> would _you_ want to be able to do in one click (or less)?
>
>Go to http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/
! That scared the HELL out of me! :D
Oh my goodness, that's a huge scary webpage. Nobody
On 27/09/12 1:11 AM, "Sven Barth" wrote:
>This (although I'm mostly using URL completion for it...) and the
>following:
>* http://wiki.freepascal.org/
>* http://www.freepascal.org/docs.var
>* ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/snapshot/trunk/
>* http://bugs.freepascal.org
Oh, Sven, Sven, Sven I a
2012/9/26 Cephas Atheos :
> On 27/09/12 12:42 AM, "Vincent Snijders"
> wrote:
>
>>2012/9/26 Cephas Atheos :
>>> What
>>> would _you_ want to be able to do in one click (or less)?
>>
>>Go to http://svn.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/
>
> ! That scared the HELL out of me! :D
>
> Oh my goo
On 27 Sep 12, at 1:56, Cephas Atheos wrote:
.
.
> I hope this makes sense. And I do hope everyone's taking my attitude in
> the spirit it's intended, I'm not trying to be a bastard, really. I know
> you guys can pull all this together, you really don't need me to tell you
> this. But I'm gonna ke
Thanks guys, I'll move the discussion to the "other" list.
I was going to write more, but I'll leave it for the time being.
Thanks for your valuable help and perspectives.
Pete
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On Wednesday 26 September 2012 16:02:31 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 2012-09-26 14:33, Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
> >> Why not do the best of both worlds.
> >
> > In whose opinion?
>
> I thought it would have been obvious.
>
> > I'm not ready yet
On 2012-09-27 08:22, Martin Schreiber wrote:
I'm not ready yet to declare FPC/Lazarus as an oldtimers only fad.
I'm afraid I don't understand your reply.
People who prefer NNTP over a nice and modern WEB-forum are dumb oldtimers.
Then that is me. :) Fine, but I did also mention a "web forum
Martin Schreiber wrote:
I'm not ready yet to declare FPC/Lazarus as an oldtimers only fad.
I'm afraid I don't understand your reply.
People who prefer NNTP over a nice and modern WEB-forum are dumb oldtimers. So
I am a dumb oldtimer too. I hate WEB-forums and think NNTP is the most
convenien
In our previous episode, Martin Schreiber said:
> >
> > > I'm not ready yet to declare FPC/Lazarus as an oldtimers only fad.
> >
> > I'm afraid I don't understand your reply.
> >
> People who prefer NNTP over a nice and modern WEB-forum are dumb oldtimers.
No. People that try to push such preferen
On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> Why not do the best of both worlds. Setup a NNTP server, then use fpWeb (or
> even plain CGI will do) to create a NNTP Web Client (aka Web Forum). Now all
> based are covered - users can use the communication medium they prefer, and
>
On 2012-09-27 09:56, Marco van de Voort wrote:
So having a preference is not the problem (and I prefer NNTP too), but pushing
it when it is a lost cause is.
So you give up that easy. Personally, I don't tend to be a lemming and
always follow the "flavour of the month".
G.
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On 2012-09-26 14:36, Andrew Brunner wrote:
Interoperability seems to have lost luster recently.
+1
I think it should at least be professional looking. Taking a
minimalist view would only bring the same complaints.
Hey, minimalist is the "flavour of the month", just look at Microsoft's
Me
Guys, I'm sorry if this has re-opened old memories of the "NNTP wars" and
the "Great Listserv Battle", and caused flashbacks and
"post-http-stress-disorder"! :)
That wasn't my intention, I swear!
Of course, it would be naïve of me to think that any urge to fix and
update (or "change", as it's cal
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