Janice,
You wrote:
Thanks, Shlomo. I now understand it better now, and I think my department
is fine with it opening to the top of the page at this time. However,
when I changed the Reference Page from: gotopage
$relfilename:$pagenum to gotoObjectId $relfilename:$ObjectType
$ObjectId, it
Ron, I think it's going to depend a lot on what your final form
deliverable is --
FM, .PDF, HTML, something else... I haven't played with it, but I'd
guess that .PDF
may support it and I'd be surprised if HTML did because you'd have to
convert to another
format that would likely throw away the
Karen Mardahl wrote:
I am starting to pick up on this negative number trick. For my table
anchor, I had settled on a font at 7pt (I like seeing that tag!), and
the para catalog defaulted to line space 8 pt. No space above or
below. My tables are set to 0 pt above. The white space between a text
Hi, guys...I'm using Mif2Go (Version 3.3, Update 46) to convert to
HTML for the first time...I've been using it to convert to Word for
years. I've defined it to split at two headings, but it names them
with system names.
I'd like to have it name each htm file with something understandable,
like
Ron Teplitz wrote:
I'm told you can make a link in Visio so when you click on
something, another f ile opens, like with a Hypertext marker
in Frame. I want to preserve links from the Visio doc to
external files when the Visio doc gets imported into Frame. I
guess that has to be
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT), John Posada
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, guys...I'm using Mif2Go (Version 3.3, Update 46) to convert to
HTML for the first time...I've been using it to convert to Word for
years. I've defined it to split at two headings, but it names them
with system
OK...I'm getting therethis is good so far. One last question:
I'd like to have the downstream topics within a hierarchy
automatically appear at the end of a topic. At the bottom of the
style Title would be all the H1s until the next occurannce of the
style Title. At the bottom of the style H1
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time
Our new editor wants to add the word and to
such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah.
But that doesn't even make sense grammatically!
The closest thing I can find is in the Microsoft Manual of Style for
Technical Publications, it's the if/when/whether thing. I know that
doesn't
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah,
blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the
editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and.
Boy are you going to have fun with your new
Tammy,
It seems to me that and changes the meaning entirely!
When you say If A, then B. It means that if A occurs or exists, B will
follow or exist.
If you say If A, and then B. The sentence is rendered incomplete. It
makes B part of the original IF clause (I wouldn't use a comma when
anding
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go
produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather
than embedded graphics? This would be from a frame
file with referenced graphics.
It's possible, but not advisable. The
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word and to such
statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other
writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
no and.
Tammy,
I think your editor is overreacting
Hi Tammy,
Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of
Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further:
That style guide states that you should avoid the if...then
construction
One additional thought: Despite what I said in my previous post, I agree
with Jeremy. Your editor's construction is also not correct. You should
not be using either and OR then with conditional construct
statements. In this case, your editor's position (on reading closer) is
worse than the one you
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
For example: If the new editor prevails, and then the boss buys into
it, then you have no choice but to type up your resume.
Brilliant example! But let's end on a happy note...
Else hire a new editor. ;-)
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Beck, Charles
Hi Tammy,
Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of
Style for Technical Publications,
Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of
Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further:
That style guide states that you should avoid the if...then
construction altogether
Right-o, Bill. I had neglected to notice the full context of the
construct, and issued my first response too hastily. My bad.
However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, If
such-and-such is true,
However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, If
such-and-such is true, then do this, or If such-and-such is true, do
this.
Right, then is assumed, just as you is assumed in your examples. :-)
I'll
The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, section 5.182, says:
Correlative conjunctions are used in pairs, often to join successive
clauses that depend on each other to form a complete thought . . . {If
the first claim is true, then the second claim must be false} . . . Some
examples of
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought
Hmmm. Doesn't make much sense to me.
In a *sentence* if a, then b, the word then isn't required. It's
really an emphasis attached to b.
For example, you could say If you are using Windows, follow these
instructions: and omit the then. The word that really joins the two
phrases is if, which is a
Thanks to everyone - there has been a lot of useful information in this thread.
On 6/28/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> Rick Quatro wrote:
> >
> > Set the Space Above setting for the table to -2 and set the Space Below
> > setting for the Anchor paragraph to -2.
> >
>
> I use an anchor pgf the same
Using pdfFLY (available on Unix,Linux and Windows) you convert any graphics
drawing saved in PostScript/PDF file
to FrameMaker MIF native format.
See http://www.visual-integrity.com for more information.
Jan Homan
Visual Integrity
Square One bv
http://www.visual-integrity.com
Janice,
You wrote:
>Thanks, Shlomo. I now understand it better now, and I think my department
>is fine with it opening to the top of the page at this time. However,
>when I changed the Reference Page from: gotopage
><$relfilename>:<$pagenum> to gotoObjectId <$relfilename>:<$ObjectType>
Ron wrote :
> Can I import a Visio flowchart into Frame 7 Solaris and retain the
> live links? If not, how can I do it? Do I need Window Frame?
What do you mean by 'live links'?
Harro de Jong
I'm told you can make a link in Visio so when you click on something, another f
ile opens, like
Karen Mardahl wrote:
> I am starting to pick up on this negative number trick. For my table
> anchor, I had settled on a font at 7pt (I like seeing that tag!), and
> the para catalog defaulted to line space 8 pt. No space above or
> below. My tables are set to 0 pt above. The white space between
When printing a book to separate pdf files (one pdf for each file in
book) FM adds the book name before the file name: xxbook(file1 etc.
Can this behaviour be changed somewhere, so that the print file (pdf)
has only the file name without the book name?
Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards,
Wim
In the Print Book dialog under Save Book As:, select Separate File for
Each Document. This will give you separate .ps files for each chapter in
your book.
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
Hi, guys...I'm using Mif2Go (Version 3.3, Update 46) to convert to
HTML for the first time...I've been using it to convert to Word for
years. I've defined it to split at two headings, but it names them
with system names.
I'd like to have it name each htm file with something understandable,
like
Ron Teplitz wrote:
> I'm told you can make a link in Visio so when you click on
> something, another f ile opens, like with a Hypertext marker
> in Frame. I want to preserve links from the Visio doc to
> external files when the Visio doc gets imported into Frame. I
> guess that has to be
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT), John Posada
wrote:
>Hi, guys...I'm using Mif2Go (Version 3.3, Update 46) to convert to
>HTML for the first time...I've been using it to convert to Word for
>years. I've defined it to split at two headings, but it names them
>with system names.
>
>I'd
All,
I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If ,
then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in
Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go produce an rtf file that has
linked graphics, rather than embedded graphics? This would be from a frame
file with referenced graphics.
I did not see anything about this in the mif2go help file.
Thanks.
Paul
OK...I'm getting therethis is good so far. One last question:
I'd like to have the downstream topics within a hierarchy
automatically appear at the end of a topic. At the bottom of the
style Title would be all the H1s until the next occurannce of the
style Title. At the bottom of the style H1
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements -
>if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just
>if/then - no "and."
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time
> Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to
> such statements - if , AND then .
But that doesn't even make sense grammatically!
The closest thing I can find is in the Microsoft Manual of Style for
Technical Publications, it's the if/when/whether thing. I know that
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the
>editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and."
Boy are you going
Tammy,
It seems to me that "and" changes the meaning entirely!
When you say "If A, then B." It means that if A occurs or exists, B will
follow or exist.
If you say "If A, and then B." The sentence is rendered incomplete. It
makes B part of the original IF clause (I wouldn't use a comma when
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, obair81 at comcast.net
wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go
>produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather
>than embedded graphics? This would be from a frame
>file with referenced graphics.
It's possible, but not advisable.
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such
>statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
>no "and."
Tammy,
I think your
Hi Tammy,
Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of
Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further:
That style guide states that you should avoid the "if...then"
construction
But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these
e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-)
On 6/29/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
> LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
> some of you were in your emails (the
One additional thought: Despite what I said in my previous post, I agree
with Jeremy. Your editor's construction is also not correct. You should
not be using either "and" OR "then" with conditional construct
statements. In this case, your editor's position (on reading closer) is
worse than the one
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
> If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
> constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
> in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
> For example: "If the new editor prevails, and then the boss buys into
> it, then you have no choice but to type up your resume."
Brilliant example! But let's end on a happy note...
Else hire a new editor. ;-)
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rshelton=opentext.com at lists.frameusers.com]On
> Behalf Of Beck, Charles
>
> Hi Tammy,
>
> Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
> your
> Bad news: At least one major style guide and my own experience are on
> your new editor's side on this one. In fact, the _Microsoft Manual of
> Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition_ takes it even further:
> That style guide states that you should avoid the "if...then"
> construction
You need to replace your new editor! Eek.
Here are some references that *might* be helpful, although none of them
*directly* answer your question.
http://users.ipfw.edu/blythes/teach/toolkit/dc.htm
http://grammar.uoregon.edu/clauses/dependent.html
Right-o, Bill. I had neglected to notice the full context of the
construct, and issued my first response too hastily. My bad.
However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If
such-and-such is true,
> However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
> and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If
> such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do
> this."
Right, "then" is assumed, just as "you" is assumed in your
I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to
discussion because she's a member of the team.
Anyway:
1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way.
However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating
conjunctions to
The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, section 5.182, says:
"Correlative conjunctions are used in pairs, often to join successive
clauses that depend on each other to form a complete thought . . . {If
the first claim is true, then the second claim must be false} . . . Some
examples of
Beck, Charles wrote:
> However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
> and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If
> such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do
> this."
As always, consider your audience. Perhaps
At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
>Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
>- If A, and then B
>and
>- If A and B
From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
programming languages the first variant would
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
- If A, then B (explicit consequence,
At 2:13 PM -0400 6/29/06, Beck, Charles wrote:
>However, in the case of a conditional construct, I stand by my statement
>and conviction that most readers could not care less whether we say, "If
>such-and-such is true, then do this," or "If such-and-such is true, do
>this."
I agree. In the
At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote:
>2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click
>New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click
>New."
But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of
instructions:
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
>
>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
> E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
>
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM:
> At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
> >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
> >- If A, and then B
> >and
> >- If A and B
> From the point of view of someone who is used to such
Does that mean that, if I pick Do not Write Equations, and hide the BMPs that
[GraphFiles] tif=bmp points to, that I will get empty frames where the images
would be?
If after generation I then put the BMPs in the same folder as the word file,
and re-open the word file, will they appear as
Hmmm. Doesn't make much sense to me.
In a *sentence* "if , then ", the word "then" isn't required. It's
really an emphasis attached to .
For example, you could say "If you are using Windows, follow these
instructions:" and omit the "then". The word that really joins the two
phrases is "if",
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